SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer Claims Warner Bros. Never Screened His Cut To Test Audiences Before Overhaul

SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer Claims Warner Bros. Never Screened His Cut To Test Audiences Before Overhaul

According to Suicide Squad director David Ayer, Warner Bros. never screened his cut of the movie to any sort of audience before deciding to completely overhaul the 2016 blockbuster. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Nov 30, 2024 04:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad

Suicide Squad was released in August 2016, just a few months after Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice had arrived in theaters. Zack Snyder's movie had a huge opening weekend (despite negative reviews), but a shocking second-weekend drop sent Warner Bros. into panic mode.

As a result, Suicide Squad received a drastic overhaul with the addition of colourful graphics, catchy pop songs, and a "happy ending" in place of the original, much darker, abusive dynamic between The Joker and Harley Quinn. 

While the #ReleaseTheAyerCut movement has never been quite as popular as #ReleaseTheSnyderCut - which ultimately led to Zack Snyder's Justice League dropping on HBO Max - a great many fans are desperate to see David Ayer's original version of Suicide Squad

Despite Ayer's hints that DC Studios and James Gunn might consider sharing his version of Suicide Squad with the world have come to nothing and, for the most part, it feels like fans want to move on from this particular era of the DCEU. 

The filmmaker, who we're sure once vowed to stop talking about the movie, has now shared more insights into what happened. As you can see below, he claims that Warner Bros. never even screened his cut to test audiences before deciding to completely overhaul it. 

It's easy enough to see why Ayer is frustrated and it's always a shame when a filmmaker is, for lack of a better term, "f***ed over" by studio bosses. However, we'd argue that a greater tragedy is what became of Batgirl (which was scrapped during post-production) because at least a version of Suicide Squad got to see the light of day. 

In August, we sat down with Scott Eastwood to discuss his role in 1992 alongside Tyrese Gibson. The actor played Lieutenant GQ Edwards in the DCEU movie and is believed to have had a much larger role in Suicide Squad's "Ayer Cut."

"I would. It's all, sort of, script-driven and director-driven," the actor replied when we asked if he'd be open to another superhero movie role. "Look, I have a relationship with David Ayer; I shot Fury with him years prior to doing that and that was one of those things where I knew he was a visionary. He's a real artist."

"When he said, 'Hey, come and do this thing with me,' I said, 'No questions asked. Whatever you want, let's go.' I didn't even really read the script, so I want to see his cut too, to be honest," Eastwood added. "We can push for that, right? Let's push for the David Ayer Cut."

Do you think DC Studios should #ReleaseTheAyerCut of Suicide Squad or is time for everyone to just move on?

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/30/2024, 4:39 AM
oh thank god-
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/30/2024, 8:40 AM
@Malatrova15 - no
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/30/2024, 4:41 AM
Maaaaaan,.... you know what- let him release it.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/30/2024, 8:41 AM
@KennKathleen - absolutely.

It'd gain huge traction on MAX a long with the scrapped Batgirl film
DaHULK2000
DaHULK2000 - 11/30/2024, 11:43 AM
@KennKathleen - Its probably decent..i read his original script..the deleted joker scenes aren't anything to write home about inspite of what Ayer and Leto keep hyping. yet over all his original conception of this film was way better then what it was eventually re edited to be
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/30/2024, 1:38 PM
@lazlodaytona - ok but recast Barbara Gordon....maybe Sabrina Carpenter or Sidney Sweeney
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 11/30/2024, 5:47 PM
@KennKathleen - I agree. I wasn’t a fan of Leto’s Joker but the rest of the movie was ok. I am curious to see what movie Ayer was making compared to the studio-interfered one that was released. He is so convinced of it being so much better. I want to see it. Zack Snyder’s Justice League was waaay better, although he kind of cheated. What he would have released if he finished it when he was originally directing it would not have been what he released way later. Idk. I still want to see it
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/30/2024, 4:50 AM
this guy just doesn't have what it takes to be a synder cut
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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 11/30/2024, 4:58 AM
It's not like Joker Will be portrayed any better, or killer croc won't water wiggle anymore, or Harley will be more than an annoying lady with a baseball bat.. Will Smith would presumably still be dead shot. It will still be horrible except for boomerang. Plus it's been rebooted into a marginally better form. Just give it up
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/30/2024, 8:42 AM
@ProfessorWhy - wrong
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 11/30/2024, 9:12 AM
@lazlodaytona - lol
I don't even know what it is you are defending. Glad you enjoy this type of thing
Toecutter
Toecutter - 11/30/2024, 5:03 AM
This guy just won't stop with this, huh?

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TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/30/2024, 6:04 AM
@Toecutter - he’s setting the record straight when being asked. You can make the argument that he should just ignore it and that’s fair but so is clearing your name on the internet.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 11/30/2024, 7:46 AM
@TheLobster -

I'd agree with you if he hadnt spent the last 8 years constantly "clearing his name" as you put it.

It's been 8yrs and Ayer is still replying to randoms on social media repeating himself over and over. Dude needs to get over it and move on.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/30/2024, 8:57 AM
@TheLobster - I can assure you, nobody gives a shit about this or him
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/30/2024, 9:00 AM
@bobevanz - I do. So your assurance is dumb as f***.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 11/30/2024, 10:28 AM
@Toecutter - Please explain how it harms you if he releases his original vision for the film?
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/30/2024, 12:35 PM
@bobevanz - if no one gave a shit then people would stop asking him about it.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 11/30/2024, 1:50 PM
@Toecutter - He was asked a question and he awnsered, its not like he made a tweet out of nowhere about the whoel thing
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 11/30/2024, 5:07 AM
Release it!


WB deserve nothing but failure for what they've done to DC.
LSHF
LSHF - 11/30/2024, 5:24 AM
Yes. Those who don't want to see it can "move on". It's not going to hurt anything at this point.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 11/30/2024, 5:50 AM
Oh dude, just [frick] off about this!
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/30/2024, 6:07 AM
@S8R8M - he’s fighting off false assumptions for a film of his that got destroyed by a shitty studio which in turn damaged his reputation in Hollywood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



S8R8M
S8R8M - 11/30/2024, 8:53 AM
@TheLobster - I think he has done that himself.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 11/30/2024, 9:00 AM
@S8R8M - He didn't ask himself the question.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 11/30/2024, 9:29 AM
@IAmAHoot - ?
Arthorious
Arthorious - 11/30/2024, 10:11 AM
@TheLobster - at the end of the day the biggest villain to DC is WB; specifically the executives but still WB
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/30/2024, 12:35 PM
@Arthorious - big facts lol
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/30/2024, 6:11 AM
He’s not lying when he says he shot a totally different film. A friend of mine was in second unit and I heard some stuff about this back in the day and the studio freaking out when they saw the tone of this on set so they immediately meddled was one of the things. I obviously didn’t realize how bad it was til I saw the film lol

Anyways, It would be nice if Gunn eventually released it just for the sake of artistry and giving Ayer some peace over the whole shitty ordeal.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 11/30/2024, 6:40 AM
@TheLobster - he won't!

Gunn would not dare allow it to be compared to his efforts. He was allowed creative freedom to the point he was allowed to kill off characters from the original cast (except harley). If he allowed ayers version a fair shot and people preferred it to his sequel, it might damage his ego 😅.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/30/2024, 8:57 AM
@TheLobster -
"A friend of mine was in second unit and I heard some stuff about this back in the day and the studio...."

So sounds reliable. I'm not bashing you because my story is weirder.

About 6 years ago I flew to Salt Lake City, Utah to catch some summer games of my Spurs.

I frequented the bar called "My X-Wife's Place" because their title was hilarious.

However, the bar tender, who used to live in L.A. told me the film was supposed to be very different.
A lot more violence, Joker's relationship with Harley being super abusive, and Joker being the main villain.

I looked him up and he's legit.

It's truly sad how stupid WBs can be and just making films that are a sudden reaction to their failures:

BvS sucked because.... well, for tons of reasons. So, WB took a great movie and tried to turn it into the first GOtG (2nd trailer was a Joke with using Queen's music).

I truly hope WB leaves Gunn alone and let his vision come to fruition ....
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 11/30/2024, 10:01 AM
@lazlodaytona - I just moved to Salt Lake Utah (S.L.U.T.) and that bar is very near me.... I'm gonna bust in there like the kool aid man and demand answers about the Ayer cut
Arthorious
Arthorious - 11/30/2024, 10:14 AM
@TheLobster - honestly just looking at the first trailer vs the rest you can tell the tone was radically changed. If BvS was better received by the public, I’m pretty confident Ayers take wouldn’t have been meddled with
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 11/30/2024, 1:31 PM
@BraveNewClunge - At this point, it's not entirely Gunn's decision to make. He may have the power to say no, but he can't demand that Warners Release it. It's a DC Property, but Warner Bros. are the distributers. They might all wait to see what the concensus is on the new DCU. If it tanks, they won't release it, as that would look desperate. If people love the new DCU, Warner Bros may drop it on max, assuming they wouldn't have to spend any money to finish it - VFX, sound mix, color correction and whatnot. They spent a lot of money on ZS's Justice League, but at the time, people made a lot of noise, demanding it, and the Studio had a new streaming Service they wanted to launch with a bang. THey claim now, to regret that decision and there just isn't the saame level of demand for this. I'd certainly be interested in seeing it though. Batgirl too.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 11/30/2024, 1:53 PM
@Patient2670 - tbh I think it's over for ayer. He missed the boat during covid when TSC got released. WB were struggling for content and he didn't even try to piggy back off of the demand for TSC until it was far too late.

Gunn made a better SS movie and is now moving forward with a new universe so there's even less reason to release it 😅
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 11/30/2024, 6:32 PM
@BraveNewClunge - Oh, I agree. Other than the fact, I'm sure Ayer pushed the studio to try to release it back then. They just had no intrest or incentive.
Cass
Cass - 11/30/2024, 6:39 AM
While i did roll my eyes when i saw the headline, in his defence, he's just answering the question. It's not like he just brought this topic up out of nowhere. I kind of wish they'd release it and let the audience make their mind up on it and we can all move on.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/30/2024, 6:47 AM
At this point, the guy should just leak a bootleg version and be fuсking done with. I know he's just answering question, but come on dude!
Baf
Baf - 11/30/2024, 6:50 AM
Release it.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 11/30/2024, 7:34 AM
Please go away.
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