THE SUICIDE SQUAD Receives The Same CinemaScore As 2016's SUICIDE SQUAD And BIRDS OF PREY

THE SUICIDE SQUAD Receives The Same CinemaScore As 2016's SUICIDE SQUAD And BIRDS OF PREY

The Suicide Squad's CinemaScore has been revealed, but despite widespread acclaim from critics, the movie doesn't appear to have been quite so warmly embraced by regular moviegoers. Read on for details...

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By JoshWilding - Aug 07, 2021 11:08 AM EST
Filed Under: The Suicide Squad

The Suicide Squad is now playing in theaters and on HBO Max, and CinemaScore has shared the grade given to the DC Comics adaptation by moviegoers.

For those of you unfamiliar with what a "CinemaScore" is, they poll moviegoers after the opening night of a major release like this one to generate a score. While it doesn't mean a huge amount (it certainly won't have the same impact on box officing takings as a Rotten Tomatoes score, for example), it's a good way of judging how people have responded to a film.

So, what did The Suicide Squad get? A B+. That may not sound too bad, but it's actually considered a pretty disappointing result and could hurt the movie at the box office in terms of word of mouth and repeat viewings. As we reported earlier today, James Gunn's movie is already struggling domestically. 

How does this score compare to the rest of the DC Extended Universe? Well...

  • Man of Steel (2013) - CinemaScore: A-
  • Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) - Cinemascore: B
  • Suicide Squad (2016) - CinemaScore: B+
  • Wonder Woman (2017) - CinemaScore: A
  • Justice League (2017) - CinemaScore: B+
  • Aquaman (2018) - CinemaScore: A-
  • Shazam! (2019) - CinemaScore: A
  • Joker (2019) - CinemaScore: B+
  • Birds of Prey - CinemaScore: B+

So, according to the moviegoers polled, it's on a part with 2016's Suicide Squad? That's a real shocker when The Suicide Squad has 92% on Rotten Tomatoes compared to its predecessor's 26%. 

What did you think of The Suicide Squad? Check out our verdict here. 
 

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Will44482
Will44482 - 8/7/2021, 11:03 AM
My personal opinion
1. Aquaman
2. Man of Steel
3. Wonder Woman
4. Zack Snyder’s Justice League
5. The Suicide Squad
6. Wonder Woman 1984
7. Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice
8. Shazam
9. Suicide Squad
10. Justice League
11. Birds of Prey
Blergh
Blergh - 8/7/2021, 11:25 AM
@Will44482 -

1. Shazam! - 7/10 (a fun and inoffensive romp with more heart than anything that came before)

2. Wonder Woman - 6/10 (inspirational and stands on a solid foundation)

3. Aquaman - 6/10 (best compared to the SW prequels, fun but dumb)

4. Man of Steel - 6/10 (coherent story but very shallow characters and drab. It was a competently made movie but left the viewer hopeless)

5. Wonder Woman '84 - 5/10 (feels like a highlight reel of the first movie mixed with 80s tropes)

6. Birds of Prey - 4/10 (the writers badly combined Deadpool and PotC tropes in a movie that should have had a different title)

7. Batman v. Superman: Ultimate Cut - 3/10 (it clearly wants to be a deep and thought-provoking film, however too much time was spent on developing the dark and poetic tone. So much so that the story fell appart at every important stage of the journey)

8. Zack Snyder's Justice League & Justice League 2/10 (these two films couldn't be more different in their tone but NOTHING in either version worked as the base material never worked from the get-go. With a Marvel-style plot that lacked any of the charming aspects to suspend enough of your disbelief and forgive any of the films mistakes.
While one version is incoherent and bright the other is ripped appart by itself with scenes that linger on so long that you're taken out of any world the film tried to build. Snyder WANTS to do a lot, his fans WANT him to be the inspirational filmmaker he could be. But this movie served neither Snyder nor Whedon to achieve their potential. Both films are terrible and should be moved on from)

9. Suicide Squad: Extended Cut 2/10 (a corporate and heartless product. It feels the studio picked actors and characters in this film based on statistics and let an AI write a basic story that completely overwhelmed the director and editor)
Will44482
Will44482 - 8/7/2021, 11:31 AM
@Will44482 - Snyder Zealots < Aquaman chads
solskulldeath
solskulldeath - 8/7/2021, 11:33 AM
@Will44482 - shazam at 8? really? shazam should be the first,then ZSJL and aquaman
Will44482
Will44482 - 8/7/2021, 11:43 AM
@solskulldeath - it feels like a shallow attempt to copy a marvel and they the Shazam in the movie seemed to barely resemble the Shazam I know. I mean where was the wisdom of Solomon , plus I just kinda don’t like movies with kid protagonists. ZSJL is really good but it’s way to long and has plenty of scenes that could have been cut. And the epilogue seemed unnecessary and ruined the ending
McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/7/2021, 12:04 PM
@Will44482 -
1. Matt Reeves Batman
2. Gunn’s SS
3. Fennel’s Zatanna
4. The rest of em
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 8/7/2021, 11:03 AM
It was still a far superior movie that either one of those.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 8/7/2021, 11:46 AM
@WruceBayne - a filmmaker getting their total vision on screen is always gonna be better than a chopped and screwed studio version. Seeing this one does make me curious what David Ayer originally would have turned out.
Origame
Origame - 8/7/2021, 1:13 PM
@WruceBayne - yeah. I think we put too much on these weird ways of quantifying opinions, as if it makes a film objectively good or bad. And this is especially faulty since it's people on opening night. You might as well poll which movie had more hype behind it.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 8/7/2021, 1:48 PM
@WruceBayne - Honestly after the first action scene it’s basically the same movie just with better humor
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 8/7/2021, 2:35 PM
@Origame - I get what you’re saying but in my own personal opinion I believe it was a better movie.
Origame
Origame - 8/7/2021, 2:43 PM
@WruceBayne - yeah that's what I'm saying too. There's no objectively better movie. Just the movie you like the most. I think that's a much better way to enjoy films.
Ahhh
Ahhh - 8/7/2021, 11:03 AM
Cinema score is awful.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 8/7/2021, 12:40 PM
@PsychoBatemen - Why? Doesn't it just poll moviegoers?
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 8/7/2021, 1:01 PM
@Nightwing1015 - (It's "awful" because people don't like its results.)
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 8/7/2021, 1:06 PM
@Spock0Clock - My thinking exactly haha
Origame
Origame - 8/7/2021, 1:14 PM
@PsychoBatemen - but...the tasteful thickness of it.
DoubleD
DoubleD - 8/7/2021, 1:20 PM
@PsychoBatemen - The Suicide Squad is pretty much inline with Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score of :)

87% B+

AUDIENCE SCORE

1,000+ Verified Ratings
Havenless
Havenless - 8/7/2021, 11:03 AM
I thought it was much more enjoyable than the first one, but it failed in hashing out the proper character arcs for us to really care about them, the building drama into the climax was almost nonexistent (for me), and some of the smaller side story bits were completely nonsensical.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 8/7/2021, 11:51 AM
@Havenless - I enjoyed that they were just scumbags? You didn’t need to know much else than that… and out of all the characters to stop Starro, it being Ratcatcher 2 and her character development was just perfect.

She’s really the heart of the film, it’s not meant to be Bloodsport or his daughter, the film establishes he’s a piece of shit Dad, because he had a piece of shit Dad, that doesn’t inspire greatness in his daughter, hence why she wants him to tell her off, to show he’s a little good, to in turn inspire her to do good - hence the scene where she says “that’s my Dad” amongst all the other wrongfully misunderstood kids, he did the one thing his character development asked, to do good. We didn’t need anything else. If we got anything more, it would’ve been unrealistic.

But it being Ratcatcher 2, was amazing because people aren’t talking nearly enough about that line Ratcatcher 1 says on the clock tower - about everyone hating rats, but they do have a purpose. It’s all about how Ratcatcher 2 hated her Father for so long for dying on her, for leaving her. And leaving her alone, she’s severely depressed hence the trope of her being a heavily deep sleeper. Her accepting her Father having an addiction and being desperate enough to even dying for it, was the comparison to a rat, but in doing so he gave her purpose, that’s one of the most beautiful moments in the film, especially since her purpose was to bring down the big bad.

But at the end, as they fly off, they’re not meant to be good guys now. That’s why Polka Dot Man dies comically the moment he screams he’s a superhero. They aren’t meant to be superheroes, they’re only meant to do one good deed. But in the end, they’re still scumbags. They’re still The Suicide Squad.
Havenless
Havenless - 8/7/2021, 12:44 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - Yeah, I don’t dispute any of that. I’m talking about the resistance fighter not even batting an eye that her entire village that she was fighting to save was just murdered by the people who instantly became her friends. The throwaway line “I’ll accept help from demons to stop them” was to push that under the rug with absolutely no gravity. How do you view her as a passionate rebel when she was oddly callous to what just happened?

How about the president deciding on the spot to marry the only assassin who survived trying to murder him/ end his regime/ do whatever to the Starr-o facility. That was so unbelievably nonsensical, his reasoning that people would like that he married the clown lady simply because the US doesn’t like her. That’s complete fluff to come up with a reason Harley can have a sex scene and then kill the president way earlier in the movie than people expected.

“We need the president to die before this, who can do it?”

“Well Harley’s available at this point in the story”

“Okay, come up with something silly, because Harley is silly.”

Many parts of the movie were really well done, but some were strangely ill-written, James is better than that.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 8/7/2021, 1:17 PM
@Havenless - I mean the film wasn’t about the resistant fighters, I think they were just inserted to act as a rational plot reaction to a government being overthrown, as well as a go between to further the plot of inserting the Squad into the city.

And for her not being pissed about them killing all her men, I don’t think they show her not pissed? She looked horrified, but survival of the fittest an all, she’s not going to turn down the help of the squad that just ripped her best men apart with ease to help aid her in her fight. Sometimes winning a war, requires you to do some pretty un-honourable shit, so I wouldn’t get too hung up on that.

And for Harley and the President subplot, a majority of that was a piss take, on purpose. From him clearly having a weird fetish over her, wanting her to wear red, her referring to him as a “real Prince” taking a bash at the Clown Prince of Crime, him conveniently meeting her as he gets out the pool, it was a clear spoof of Harley’s imagination. You’re supposed to be reminded that Harley Quinn is out of her [frick]ing mind as soon as she shoots him. It’s fantasy meets reality.

There’s a lot of hidden subplots in this film that involve real mental illnesses. From Ratcatcher 2’s depression, Polka Dot Man’s inadvertent PTSD of his Mother, Harley’s clear schizophrenia, Bloodsports phobias triggered as a child, King Shark’s different choice of character development to be big in size but inability to think harder than a child.

I think you’re looking into the wrong things, trying to break them down and ask “why” too much, then judging them without considering the overall picture. That’s going to make any film feel broken and nonsensical if you do that.
Havenless
Havenless - 8/7/2021, 1:37 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - I disagree, most films feel like they have proper setup and payoffs with their plot lines, major or minor.

A film intentionally inserting “piss takes” as its story telling tactic is not something that appeals to me personally. If it’s not a competent story, don’t put it in your movie. That much should be baseline
DeaconFrostBite
DeaconFrostBite - 8/7/2021, 6:32 PM
@Havenless - Totally agree!!! There was some moments of brilliance and some moment of just weird plotting. Oddly enough, the moment that got me the most was when starro said he was happy just floating and staring at the stars. It really made me sad and it was such a great line pertaining to America and our need to meddle in the affairs of the others.
Blergh
Blergh - 8/7/2021, 11:04 AM
Seeing how Justice League got a positive cinema score akin to Joker should even make hardcore Snyder fans suspicious of that site.
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