New Villains Could Refresh the Superman Franchise

New Villains Could Refresh the Superman Franchise

Who should face-off against Superman in a feature film?

Editorial Opinion
By 6of13 - Oct 01, 2009 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

So there is a bit of quandary involving the Superman films. When will there be another film? Who knows, at the rate WB are going with their assortment of DC films. However, a Superman flick would undoubtedly bring in a large general audience and mega bucks for WB. The ongoing question is: What would you like to see in a Superman film. Many enthusiasts are calling for more action. There is no doubt that a Superman film needs plenty of fight action and so on but simply gorging the movie with action is just not enough to truly give the Superman mantle a good showing. Bring on a viable, multi-dimensional villain. Or perhaps, villains. A Superman film does not necessarily have to include one antagonist. Why not two or even three per movie?

Based on current trends, it seems likely that at the very least we should get a Superman trilogy. Although there is definitely allowance for more than three films. However, with the anticipation of a Justice League movie as well, how many Superman films could we actually expect?

We need to a get a wide and varied fan based opinion as to which villains we would like to see in a Superman trilogy. Which villains would you like to see in a Superman franchise? There is plenty of consensus centring on Brainiac. If I had a choice, I would like to see both Metallo and Brainiac in the first instalment. The involvement of Metallo would allow for plenty of fight action, which is then later followed by the introduction of Brainiac. Lex Luthor can also appear but not as the main antagonist, but rather as the manipulative, behind-the-scenes mastermind pulling all the strings and thereby setting up Superman for a confrontation with both Metallo and Brainiac.





It would be interesting to have Doomsday as the villain in the second instalment. However, there are a number of pros and cons when it comes to Doomsday.
Pros:
Lots of fight action. A plethora of stupendous CGI and destruction. A good lead on to a third instalment - the unfortunate matter with this con is that it would be a two or three year wait for the third film.

Cons:
Doomsday is one-dimensional. How do you draw-out the Doomsday scenario in a two-hour or two-and-a-half hour movie? Is Doomsday enough to make a monumental film? Do you really want the entire feature film to be a punch-up? More is needed than a slugfest. Even the WWE offers a bit more than that! In my opinion, Doomsday is probably only good for about 30 minutes to 45 minutes anyway. I can't really see how a decent Superman film can have the death of Superman last for more than 2 hours. My proposal is that a multitude of villains is required. Superman can deal with these agitators first and thus allow for a more plausible, comprehensive story and film. In addition to Doomsday, who would make a fitting foe for Supes? How about Intergang, Parasite, Live Wire, Bizzaro, Mxyzptlk, Toyman, Mongul, and Ultra-Humanite just to name a few. I am not saying use all of them at once. Neither am I saying use any of them. Heck, maybe even Brainiac can return in a minor way. Who says that Brainiac has to be permanently killed off if he is availed in the first instalment of the Superman films? I feel than an encompassed Superman film can have Superman dealing with a diversified assortment of villains and how it affects him and his life as Superman and Clark Kent. What I mean by this is that these villains are not going to be major players as a whole but rather just secondary villains that are keeping Superman occupied and how he has to deal with them on a daily basis. In other words, as Superman dispenses with one villain, another emerges thus giving plenty of scope for fight incidences and an emotional context as well. What of course is also needed is the love angle between Lois Lane and Clark/Superman. Then perhaps Doomsday makes an appearance for the final, dramatic conclusion.



The third instalment. Which villain is worthy of being Supers nemesis in this third instalment? Well, assuming Doomsday kills Superman in the second instalment, possibly Darkseid. Although a battle between Superman and Darkseid would be epic, we still need to consider the villain for the JLA movie. Perhaps Darkseid is better for the JLA movie instead. If that's the case, then Mongul might be a possible choice for the third Superman film. The inclusion of Mongul then opens a likely tie-in with the JLA movie and Hal Jordan (depending on the direction in which the Green Lantern movie goes). However, I am not so sure if everyone is going to agree with the choice of Mongul. Is he appropriate for a single antagonist? Is he the best choice of villain for a Superman movie? I personally would like to see Darkseid. If indeed Darkseid is the villian, who will the main antagonist be in a JLA movie? Perhaps Despero and another phenomenal villain for JLA movie.








The issue of who will ultimately face-off against Superman is an interesting one. So, let us her what the CBM community has to say. We should have plenty of convincing arguments as to whom the rogues gallery shall feature for hopefully the soon to come refreshed Superman franchise.
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RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 11:40 AM


Something with Brainiac would be great. You could do great fights and you could tie in some stuff about Krypton.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 11:40 AM
DOOMSDAY should be next!!



ROUTH VS DOOMIE = $$$$$

EPIC!!! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 11:41 AM
RadBracket @ Don't be a FISTER! : D
WeaponX
WeaponX - 10/1/2009, 11:45 AM
Mongol and War World. A sort of War of the Worlds/Independence Day meets Gladiator thing would be epic enough to give both depth and action for Superman.


SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 11:45 AM
like the story. Brainiac, metallo in the first, u could have brainiac summon doomsday at the end of the first movie as supes is kickin his ass. And do a jla for a 3rd like what they are doing with marvel with thor, iron man, cap. america. Hope this makes sense.
JohnnyKrypton
JohnnyKrypton - 10/1/2009, 11:47 AM
How about Bizarro? That would allow for Lex to have a key role but also stay primarily in the background... let the "darkness" WB thinks is necessary come from the villains and the situation, NOT Superman himself, and banish Singer's story to oblivion.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 11:48 AM
BRAINAIC is the lamest Superman villain, [frick] LAMEIAIC!

: D
Misterfan
Misterfan - 10/1/2009, 11:52 AM
c'mon leee, ur stil on that doomsday bid? Thats not gonna happen for a while, bring in the Brainaic.
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 11:54 AM
You could do some interesting stuff with Brainiac. He has conections to Krypton and could have knowlage of Supermans parents. That could give it some added emotional wait.

Also if Brainiac comes to Earth claiming to be peacful it might make Superman willing to trust him.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 11:57 AM
@RadBracket

They did exacttly that in superman the animated series, and it would work.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 11:59 AM
@teabag

Snorville perfect title.

BruceWayneNewton
BruceWayneNewton - 10/1/2009, 12:00 PM
Brainiac and Metallo in the first film. Doomsday and Luthor in the second and Kalibak in the third, leading into the Darkseid stoyline for JLA.
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 12:00 PM
@ SHHH

Yeah. Why does Hollywood find it so hard to do these things right. There are loads of great stories in the book and cartoons that you could just stick on the silver screen with few changes.

But instead they keep getting writters who know nothing about comics to do sub-par scripts.
6of13
6of13 - 10/1/2009, 12:04 PM
@Johnny: Totally agree. Superman is about hope. Batman is dark. Angel is dark. If you want darkness in a Superman film, then it must come from the villians.

Brainiac was ranked as IGN's 17th Greatest Comic Book Villain of All Time in 2009.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:05 PM
Superman has been the most wasted movie icon EVER. same stories used over again. Superman villian gallery is huge and all they want lex luthor and LAND
RemiMartini
RemiMartini - 10/1/2009, 12:05 PM
Doomsday seems to be the next character destined to be a villain. Does anyone else think that "Abomination" from the Ed Norton Incredible Hulk film looked good enough to be Doomsday?
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 12:08 PM
With Lex they always struggle to come up with reasons for him to be a threat. Its like in Smallville where at the end of every episode some Kryptonit hasnto falls out of nowhere just to create some tention.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:08 PM
All u need is to get Kevin Smith to write a Real superman story.
bizarro
bizarro - 10/1/2009, 12:10 PM
BIZARRO BIZARRO BIZARRO.....AND BRAINIAC
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 12:11 PM
DOOMSDAY + ROUTH + KEVIN SMITH + PETER JACKSON!!!

$$$$$$ !!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 12:12 PM
BIZARRO @ BIZARRO's getting his own movie dude!!

But he would be good!

Just not that lame BRAINIAC crap lol.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:20 PM
What about a creepy version of toyman, make him a child killer like in animated movie Superman Doomsday.
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 12:21 PM
I quite liked the way Brainiac and Lex Luthur teamed up in the Justice League cartoons. I could be intersting in a film. You might have Superman forced to except Lex's help at the end of the film.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 12:21 PM
SHHH @ Very dark dude!!

I think we've waited long enough for a [frick]ing DOOMSDAY movie KRATOS @ : D
Fortress
Fortress - 10/1/2009, 12:24 PM
I think get a few in one movie! BRAINIAC, ZOD, DARKSIDE!

And a DOOMSDAY EPIC, For LEEE! ;)
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 12:27 PM
@ SHHH

Doing Toy Man like that might have to much of a pedophilia vib.

I mean you can a bit dark but this is still a summer blockbuster.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:28 PM
Wb wouldn't know a good movie if it fell outta the sky and fell on thier face and started to wiggle.
Fortress
Fortress - 10/1/2009, 12:30 PM
SHHH: I agree with u there!
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:30 PM
@RadBracket

Good point.
genius
genius - 10/1/2009, 12:31 PM
Doomsday trilogy + Routh = Big Money
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:34 PM
superman can be used like what they are doin with iron man leading up to the avengers. Use superman to lead up JLA.
RadBracket
RadBracket - 10/1/2009, 12:38 PM
problem with JLA is that I couldnt work with Chris Nolan's Batman. They'd have to introduce a new vertion of Batman and that might be a problem for audiences.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 12:41 PM
DOOMSDAY made worldwide news!!!

And many many comic books, more than enough to put in a 2 and a half movie!! ; )

Crusader
Crusader - 10/1/2009, 12:41 PM
It's a lot of stories out there aleady that could make a good one. For the first movie I think they should do something like the JLU did. Lex has a thrist of knowledge, and braniac what all the knowledge. Lex already knows bits and peices of kryptonian history so in the beggining he searches for braniac which is somehwo on earth that has been here since clark landed or another meteor shower (smallville). After lex finds braniac lex tells ask him for his knowledge and intrade lex wil give him superman. Braniac trades on lex.Throw superman in their however way they want to.
SHHH
SHHH - 10/1/2009, 12:42 PM
Throw in a new version of zod, he could summon doomsday to finally kill superman
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/1/2009, 12:42 PM
BigNick @ ; D
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