SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Breaks Silence On Ma And Pa Kent Casting; Is He Teasing A Possible Name Change?
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HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 4/15/2024, 7:07 AM
I still cant say that [frick]ers name
luckypenny
luckypenny - 4/15/2024, 7:13 AM
@HammerLegFoot - Mix Yes Spit Lick

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WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 4/15/2024, 7:35 AM
@HammerLegFoot - I always thought it was “mitts ill plick”
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/15/2024, 7:36 AM
@HammerLegFoot - mitts-ill-pitah-lick
RolandD
RolandD - 4/15/2024, 1:18 PM
@HammerLegFoot - MiX yez pitel ick
LSHF
LSHF - 4/15/2024, 7:52 AM
I don't know.

Why are you asking us?
kg8817
kg8817 - 4/15/2024, 7:55 AM
Yeah he’s definitely the type of villain Gunn would do, and probably make absolutely threatening and sympathetic even.

I get Gunn gets hate. But he made [frick]ing Starro work. Come on now.
The1st
The1st - 4/15/2024, 11:24 AM
@kg8817 - It's too bad Gilbert has passed. It would have been epic if this is what comes to pass.
ager
ager - 4/15/2024, 8:16 AM
I had a totally different idea

Peacemaker: Season 2

Waller must go into hiding after being outed at the end of season 1 and fears her daughter is a victim of something nefarious. Although underground, she uses what connections she still has to "rescue" her daughter and have the others killed.

Meanwhile, a costumed racist calling himself Der Fledermaus reestablishes himself in order to recruit like-minded villains to overthrow the US government as the US is feeling stronger than ever having found flagship heroes in P&V.

Peacemaker, Eagly, Vigilante, Adebayo, Harcourt, and Economos gather criminals from Belle Reve, aided by Marlene the lunch lady, to stop Der Fledermaus.

Secretly, Peacemaker is battling through arguments with his dead father who is credited as The Gentleman Ghost.

Peacemaker's team, L.A.W. (Living Assault Weapons)

Adebayo- When she is finally "rescued" she has an emotional confrontation with her mother that finally sets her apart from Waller and it's cemented when she requests from the UN to create Project Peacemaker with her as the director.

Harcourt- The unofficial leader of the group becomes closer to Peacemaker until she is haunted by her past when she runs into her old flame, Lenny "Crusher" Crock who calls her Tigress. She is forced to reveal her past to the team.

Economos- becomes something of a handler to the misfits and, in doing so, matures over the season and is taken seriously midway and asserts himself considerably.

Vigilante- The self-appointed second-in-command tragically dies in the end. Even Eagly cries.

Eagly- He is the one Peacemaker appoints as number 2.

Thorn- *if CW insisted on doing more DC properties, I'd suggest an Alan Scott/Sentinel show where Thorn would play an intricate part as a love interest of sorts, a parliament of the green, a daughter to Rupert Thorne, a descendant of Blackbriar Thorn(e), and a character with whom we empathize greatly. Here, in Peacemaker, she's just nuts. Of course, this show will laugh and cry with these characters with the same balance of season 1. In the end of PM season 2, Thorn decides to go to a facility where she can seek therapy for her disorder.

Catman- has an obsession to be perfect and fights his eating disorder. A prominent character in the Sentinel show mentioned above where he goes from villain to anti-hero and shocks viewers early on as it's revealed he is the absentee brother to a main character in Sentinel's team, Lady Blackhawk. In the end of PM season 2, Catman opts to travel the world and create animal safety awareness.

Giganta- Her growth (and size reduction) is uncontrollable leading to many gags but also developing a softer side to her as we see her self esteem go from worse to better. In the end of PM season 2, she falls in love with Economos and the 2 leave all of this behind.

Kite Man- Have kite, is man; hell yeah! At least, he seems as one dimensional as this. Kite Man is one of the very few costumed criminals to never try and escape; this is one major reason why our returning heroes felt he could be trusted. He never tried to escape because he was finally trying to set the example for his son and be the father he never was. PM bonds with KM as opposite sides of similar tragedy. KM, in the end, is redeemed in the eyes of his son.

Plastic Man- The most together of the team. He picks on the others and is a constant thief. He's the one we're supposed to love the most if no one else steals the show. By the end, he figures he'll give heroism a go.

The Cavalier- More Zorro than a large-brimmed hat-wearing "Arrrr yee matey" type. He's oddly charming and the others are confused by how well he wins them over. In the end, he fades away and the others are left to think about just how cool he was.

Wonder Twins- The absolute outcasts. Just completely dump on them until it's realized at the end that everything we thought was incorrect and they turn out to be powerful and far less strange.
ager
ager - 4/15/2024, 8:17 AM
@ager - Axis of AmeriKKKa

After the apparent death of Chris' brother, Keith Smith, a group was formed without the knowledge of the White Dragon because many thought his affection for Keith was a weakness. Members were able to save young Keith and raised him without nurture, affection, and bonds.

Der Fledermaus- Only spotted a few times as a youth, having to avoid being recruited, and found out, by White Dragon, he is, in fact, Keith. This is a big reveal late in the season.

Count Vertigo- Vertigo has aligned himself with the take-over because he has been promised that his country, under his thumb, will gain power within this New World Order. (King Snake, who could be used similarly, like several Batman characters, is withheld as I assume they will, or could, be used in with Batman properties).

Lady Vic- The nobility of Vic is just as important to the premise as Vertigo's. The 2 are snobbish aristocrats who see themselves as better than the others and aren't Nazi sympathizers as much as they are self serving. Diplomatic immunity saves both of them by the end.

Cheshire- Strangely, she has vowed to help Fledermaus. As the only non-white member, she isn't treated well but claims to believe in the cause and wishes to reap the benefits. The late teens-to young adult, in truth, is the bastard child of Keith as a result of the rape and, later, murder, of her mother. She was thought to have been killed as well but her life was mysteriously spared by the assassin. Her mission is to kill her father when the time is right which she does so in the end with begrudging permission from Peacemaker. Her relation to Fledermaus also means she is the niece of Peacemaker. She needs the mask from the cartoons; I love that mask.

Everyman- He is the shape-shifting plot device that will take the form of the president and usher in the NWO on Fledermaus' orders. For this purpose, his ability is what sells his presence. In the end, he escapes incognito after realizing he was being used and regarded as nothing more than a weapon.

Baron Blitzkrieg- another member on whom experiments were performed, only with Baron, it was a physical alteration versus the mental alteration Fledermaus underwent. He's quite happy with his position in the organization and is a dutiful agent. He is, by far, the most underdeveloped character. In the end, he is killed by Giganta, who grows at will.

Killer Wasp- a one-off villain in my proposed Sentinel show that helps dive deeper into another team member, though, here, as the childhood friend of Fledermaus; he is to Fledermaus what Vigilante is to Smith. He killed his father and several other "boomers" at the behest of Fledermaus when they resisted his leader's bloody takeover. In the end, he and Vigilante kill each other in a last ditch effort by Vig to save Eagly.

Double Dare- 2 seductive circus performers who find themselves unwavering in their attraction to Fledermaus. It's the most blatant "wet-dream" of boys because it's so wrong and should lean into uncomfortably aggravating that it airs. The real hate these two conjure should melt into the characters. It's everything wrong with the way women are treated, seen, and cast, to the point where their personalities are intentionally not defined at all. In the end, they are apprehended.
ager
ager - 4/15/2024, 8:17 AM
@ager - Waller's Checkmate team is not a goof troop of hacks.

Scandal Savage- Replacing Shiva because Shiva needs to be in the DCGunnU and taken seriously, Savage takes on the Femme Fatale leader role.

The Hook- Replacing David Cain because he should be in any DCGU movie that introduces Shiva and/or Cassandra, Hook is such a cool character that fits the serious side of the very fun Peacemaker show and receives the proper introduction here.

Red Arrow- I loved the first 2 or 3 seasons of Young Justice but the absolute 3 best things to come from it were Cheshire, the genetic Harper "brothers", and Sportsmaster. If there's no room for a movie starring Roy Harper (I want that as much as I want an Icon movie and more than I want another Superman or Batman), then he deserves some love. He's definitely the one we love on this team. Also, if I'm going to have Cheshire, I think Red Arrow is going to add something even more to that story and prove he's one of the best (anti) heroes on the show. Cheshire and Red will spark quickly and, in the end, run off together.

Red X- Having never watched Teen Titans, I found out about Red X much later and did some digging on who I thought it was. I determined it was most likely Shrike, while discrediting several others. Using the character here, I tied it to Peacemaker season 1. Stay with me; we know that the Peacemaker Judomaster is very different from the comics so (and this is a big) what if that Judomaster is Tiger, the child sidekick to Rip, the original Judomaster (of whom we have not met within the series). What if Tiger killed Rip after being manipulated by the butterflies and later took on the Judomaster name? Maybe this new Judomaster, the one we now know, was named Jimmy Leong (who, in the comics, was the name of Stuff, the Chinatown Kid, who made his first appearance as a sidekick to {the original} Vigilante {in 1942}. Jimmy, as of season 2, is on a voyage in the Himalayas, throughout the season, eating his Cheetos and battling his own antagonists (sort of a self-discovery pun on Bruce Wayne).

Therefore, this leaves a void and his brother, Victor Leong (who, in the comics, became the second Chinatown Kid), takes the Red X moniker and works voluntarily for Waller in order to kill Peacemaker and Vigilante because Victor blames the disappearance and/or mental breakdown of Jimmy on the duo (and superheroes in general).

Lock-up- A fun character to oppose and conflict with everyone and taking on that enforcer role Katanna and Peacemaker took.

Bolt- I'm surprised he wasn't already a part of the DCEU Suicide Squad. That being said, he was lumped in, along with PM , in the 2021 comics and that's even more of a reason to have him. He's a deadly character that's not well known, but should be soon. He seems to lay low in the hierarchy of the team but gets down and dirty when the action begins.

Copperhead- The slithery contortionist is the black sheep of the group, creeping the others out at every turn.

Black Spider- He's an elite assassin with incredible hand-to-hand combat and marksmanship skills with only one small problem; he's an unabashed Peacemaker fanboy.

Sportsmaster- I'm not going to give up on shoehorning him into any DC property I can imagine until I see what YJ gave us. In my *yawn~here we go again* CW Sentinel pitch he understandably plays a large part (as an original enemy to Scott) even taking on a version of the Made of Wood Killer after putting an end to a copycat Sportsmaster. He's the guy that thinks he should run the team and he's the guy that thinks he has Peacemaker's number. Ironically, he is a perfect match for Smith, who is more akin to John McClane than Bruce Wayne. Add to all of that his history with Emilia "Tigress" Harcourt, and he should be very interesting.

Cannon- Years ago, Henry Cannon was quickly beaten by Peacemaker and Vigalante and apprehended thereafter. While imprisoned, he dedicated himself to perfecting his prowess (akin to Cape Fear) so that he can one day kill the duo. By Waller, he has been given that chance. He has a one-track mind until we learn that, also imprisoned, is his soulmate to whom he intends to return after his goal is completed, adding another layer to the assassin.
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 4/15/2024, 10:12 AM
@ager - i salute you for writing all of that in this tiny ass txt box 😭
The1st
The1st - 4/15/2024, 11:25 AM
@DeadClunge - I wonder why he's telling us this though and not WB, assuming he hasn't already.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/15/2024, 1:41 PM
@ager - damn dude, you should almost write an article at this point. That way it won't be lost either
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 4/15/2024, 8:28 AM
Great antagonist, just not one for an introductory story.

Also best episodes of Superman.
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marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 8:55 AM
Definitely gonna watch the movie, so I can learn how to pronounce Mister Mxyzptlk, if he is the villain.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 4/15/2024, 9:00 AM
@marvel72 - Mix Yes Spit Lick.
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marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 9:07 AM
@Reeds2Much -

Its in the mail,kind sir.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 4/15/2024, 9:38 AM
@marvel72 - The trick is learning to say it backwards.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 10:46 AM
@marvel72 -

Don’t ask me, I pronounced this guys name Sub-Muh-reen-er most of my childhood.

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marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 1:11 PM
@SuperJefe - So did I. lol
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 1:12 PM
@GeneralZod - Whaaaaat!
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 4/15/2024, 1:26 PM
@SuperJefe - i think we all did!
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 1:33 PM
@GeneralZod @marvel72

Oh good I don’t feel so dumb now … I remember hearing the guys at my comic book shop pronounce it correctly and I thought “Huh?? That can’t be right.”
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 2:17 PM
@SuperJefe - Well part of his name Marine, add Sub Submarine,but it's pronounced Sub-Mariner.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 4/15/2024, 2:23 PM
@SuperJefe - When i was a little kid reading FF, i thought "Annihilus" was pronounced "Ann-hih-lus". Had no idea it was rooted to annihilation until i got to junior high. Hell, i still call him Ann-hih-lus in my head.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 2:31 PM
@GeneralZod - It’s funny how solitary of an activity being a comic book fan was back in the day…completely different.
Vigor
Vigor - 4/15/2024, 9:09 AM
Has anyone else encountered this imp? I wonder if he ever got his shit kicked in by someone like Lobo
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 9:18 AM
@Vigor - Batman,he teamed up with Bat-Mite against Batman and Superman.
QuietStorm
QuietStorm - 4/15/2024, 11:31 AM
I know it's unlikely but does Larry David have a shot at this role lol. He's the first person I thought of even though I know there's better options. User Comment Image
Baf
Baf - 4/15/2024, 12:38 PM
@QuietStorm - Not Dinklage?
QuietStorm
QuietStorm - 4/15/2024, 12:46 PM
@Baf - No way. I'm a fan of Dinklage but after he came out against having dwarfs in snow white, I dont think he'd be akin to playing this type of role either.

I saw someone say Martin Short and that would be an excellent type. Maybe Mike Myers.
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 4/15/2024, 1:11 PM
@Baf - you really think he'd go for that?
Baf
Baf - 4/15/2024, 1:25 PM
@QuietStorm - I was unaware of his social stance on roles. Martin Short would be amazing.
Baf
Baf - 4/15/2024, 1:28 PM
@Mrtoke - I don't know what he would be up for, but this is one of Superman's most iconic foes.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/15/2024, 12:14 PM
I could see him showing up later down the line…

He’s definitely a character that fits in Gunn’s wheelhouse.

Martin Short would be my pick!!.

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BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 4/15/2024, 1:43 PM
I can see this character.....for Peacemaker. Superman tho.....Nahhhhhhhh......
narrow290
narrow290 - 4/15/2024, 5:08 PM
This comment section has been overly kind! Am I on an alternate Earth? LOVE IT
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/16/2024, 2:00 AM
Not even a villain, he just likes to be mischievous and comes to our dimension to have some fun. The problem is he's reckless with his fun so Superman comes in to stop him.

I remember how his first ever live-action debut was apparently in Smallville, but that version was definitely more leaning to the evil side and had powers that revolved more aroudn command.

The other versions that appeared in the Arrowverse, in Supergirl, were closer in embodying the comical and fun spirit of the character. They had fun using him and so did I watching those iterations. But more importantly, his stories came with some heartfelt moments.

Shouldn't be an issue for Gunn. As long as he's not wasted like he did with his own Thinker in TSS of course.

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