SUPERMAN: LEGACY Director James Gunn Says He Was "Never Making A Young Superman Movie"

SUPERMAN: LEGACY Director James Gunn Says He Was "Never Making A Young Superman Movie"

Despite James Gunn stating that Superman: Legacy would focus on the early days of the Man of Steel, the director has now clarified that it was never his plan to make a "young Superman movie."

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By MarkCassidy - Aug 17, 2023 09:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman: Legacy

When James Gunn officially announced that Henry Cavill would not be returning as Superman in the new DCU, he indicated that one of the main reasons why he was recasting the role was because his planned reboot would be "focusing on an earlier part of Superman's life."

Though the filmmaker never actually specified how much earlier, a lot of fans took this to mean that Superman: Legacy would introduce a younger Man of Steel who was just coming to grips with his dual life as Earth's primary protector and budding Daily Planet reporter Clark Kent.

We recently learned that the Blue Beetle movie will contain a Superman reference, and since we know Jaime Reyes will be a part of the DCU going forward, a fan asked Gunn on Threads if this confirmed that Legacy would take place in the past.

The Suicide Squad director responded that he was "never making a young Superman movie, just a Superman movie."

Though Gunn is right in that he technically never did say he was working on a young Superman movie, his comments have resulted in some jumping to the conclusion that there must be more to him replacing Cavill as the Man of Tomorrow than we've been led to believe.

What do you make of this clarification? Let us know in the usual spot, and check out some new Superman: Legacy fan-art below.

Superman: Legacy will star David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, and Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane. The supporting cast includes Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, Edi Gathegi as Mister Terrific, Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern Guy Gardner, and Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho.

Casting is currently underway for Lex Luthor, Jimmy Olsen and Perry White.

Barring any delays, Production is scheduled to commence next January.

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AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/17/2023, 9:47 AM
If that's the case then why not just keep Cavill💁?



You're keeping everyone else💁





Seems like Gunn just doesn't like Cavill....
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/17/2023, 9:53 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - Because Cavill’s Superman was inherently broken from the jump.



Lois and Superman, having a good smooch atop of the ashes of thousands. You can’t fix that. He’s gotta go.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/17/2023, 9:56 AM
@PlusUltra -


Alot of people in the DCEU are broken but Gunn has no problem keeping them💁
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/17/2023, 10:03 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - Not any of the characters he’s allegedly keeping are tho
tylerzero
tylerzero - 8/17/2023, 10:03 AM
@PlusUltra -

Y'know, I only just realized that.

AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/17/2023, 10:06 AM
@PlusUltra -


Gal is a trash WW and Margot Robbie as Harley is damaged beyond repair. She sucks as Harley and will be outshined by GaGa💁
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 8/17/2023, 10:10 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - gal isn’t coming back did you miss the last 2 weeks?
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/17/2023, 10:13 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -


It's still in question. I highly doubt gal would lie like that. Gunn has a reputation with lying 💁
Batmangina
Batmangina - 8/17/2023, 10:17 AM
@PlusUltra - Goddamn. It's even worse when you point THAT out. Holy balls. Good call.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/17/2023, 10:51 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - Maybe Gunn is getting caught up in his own web of contradictions.
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/17/2023, 11:17 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - Because all the creatives from before ruined Cavill’s Superman to the point that Clark Kent is now dead. So, at this point they decided it’s better for them to be able to build a new DCEU based on the stories they want to tell, keeping and changing what makes sense for their story. New Superman, new Batman and, despite what Gal said, it’s pretty likely there will be a new Wonder Woman too.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:25 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - I disagree about Gal.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:26 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - I don't think they're keeping Affleck from what I've heard.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:26 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Has there been confirmation from WB/Gunn about that?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:28 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - Alot? It seems only Gal, Mamoa and Flash are being kept, if at all, along with characters in Gunn's stuff. I don't think Gal and Mamoa's performances and character they play are really much broken than they ever are.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/17/2023, 11:41 AM
@AmazingFILMporg

"Gal is a trash WW and Margot Robbie as Harley is damaged beyond repair."

This is definitely not an overreaction.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/17/2023, 11:57 AM
@regularmovieguy -


I know right💁
DavidMullich
DavidMullich - 8/17/2023, 12:03 PM
@dagenspear - There are currrently no deals for either Gal Gadot or Ezra Miller to appear in any future DC films. Gadot claimed that Gunn and Safran said that they wanter her to be in Wonder Woman 3, but Variety disputed her claims. I doubt that they will be brining Miller back after the Flash's box office disaster.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/17/2023, 12:27 PM
@PlusUltra - The Suicide Squad was broken too and that didn't stop Gunn from using characters in that movie. Hugh Jackman was in some of the worst X-Men movies ever and he's still playing Wolvie. Thor: Ragnarok followed The Dark World. Imagine not getting Mission: Impossible 3-8 because M:I 2 was awful.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/17/2023, 12:42 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - Only character that carried over in SS was Harley, and nothing about her origin or character was broken. She was always the highlight. Hugh’s Wolverine was also well received in the first 3 movies before they got to Origins. Same with Thor, who had a good origin and whose popularity was propelled to full on A-lister thanks to the Avengers.

Cavill’s Superman was [frick]ed from his 1st movie, as I pointed out. They [frick]ed him over some more in the second, and after that, whether people like to admit it or not, people were done. That’s why it’s been a downward spiral for the DCEU ever since, to the point every movie they’ve released since 2018 has flopped.
AC1
AC1 - 8/17/2023, 12:52 PM
@PlusUltra - I love Man of Steel but that kiss and the dumb line about "it all going downhill after the first kiss" and how that "only applies when you're kissing a human" literally gives me a full body cringe every time, and I don't even think I'd considered the specific detail that they're literally probably stood on people's ashes like you just pointed out...
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/17/2023, 1:39 PM
@PlusUltra -



Are we talking about the same Harley Quinn that was created by Jared Leto's Joker and has tattoos? Yet we were totally fine with ignoring all that. Gunn also brought back Waller, Flag, and Boomerang and people were actually disappointed that he was killed off so early because they didn't care that he was in a crappy movie, they wanted more of him.

X-Men 3 was not well received lol but what does it matter if it's the first movie or the second, third or fourth? The point is that these characters can always recover from a bad or even several bad movies. People like the actors in these roles, and that's what counts. You write a good movie and people forgive the mistakes in the past, especially if the movie draws no attention to what happened before or in some cases, even pokes fun at it.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/17/2023, 1:41 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - People don’t like Cavill in the role, that’s the point. Audiences rejected him in the first movie, which is why it underperformed and WB added Batman to the sequel. Then Batman v Superman underperformed and then Justice League flopped. Cavill has his fans, but so does Brandon Routh. Neither of them did [frick] all for the Superman franchise but drive it into the ground.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/17/2023, 2:20 PM
@PlusUltra - Man of Steel only underperformed in its reviews. It still made more money than every MCU Phase One movie other than Avengers. $668 million may not seem like a lot now, but back then it was a lot more than what most comic book movies made. Batman Begins' BO adjusted to inflation is as much as Man of Steel's. Now imagine if it was actually a good movie. And for BvS to come close to a billion dollars following Man of Steel and being one of the worst CBMs ever made, that's pretty impressive. Cavill was never the issue. The internet was on fire when it was announced that he was out.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/17/2023, 2:32 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - It also cost more than every MCU Phase 1 movie, including Avengers, with a 250M budget, and was about Superman, a character who at the time was more popular than every MCU Phase 1 character. But unlike MCU Phase 1, it never built any good will, got bad reviews, and never got a proper sequel but instead, Batman v Superman, a rushed launch of a cinematic universe that resulted in the entire thing imploding. Batman v Superman’s the only movie to open as high as it did and not make a billion. That’s not impressive. That’s an embarrassment. A clear sign that audiences completely rejected this vision for the DCU, which they did and guess what? Justice League outright flopped.

There’s no positive spin to this. Man of Steel, and the film series it spawned, is a total failure and has been from the very jump. From disappointment to disappointment to flop after flop, and Henry Cavill is the face of all of that, so there was never any reasonable, let alone good incentive to ever bring him back. It failed in the worse possible way, and now it’s over. It’s high time fans accept that.
IronSpider101
IronSpider101 - 8/17/2023, 2:47 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Because although Henry looks and sounds the part and seems to have an affection for the character, he's truthfully just not a very good actor unless he's speaking in his own accent. Colin Ferrell used to have the same problem.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 9:35 PM
@DavidMullich - I'm wondering if there's actual confirmation on any of that.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 8/17/2023, 9:51 AM
Yeah… James Gunn hadn’t ever made a movie that makes me believe he’ll successfully write/direct/produce a great Superman movie. I hope I’m wrong, but his sophomoric humor doesn’t fit the character at all.

He previously stated that Cavill was too old, and now he’s saying he isn’t doing a younger Superman. I dunno if he knows what he’s doing at this point
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/17/2023, 10:04 AM
@ImBatman4realz - He said he isn't doing a "young" Superman movie, not that Superman wouldn't be younger.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 8/17/2023, 10:36 AM
@ImBatman4realz - it’s the latter of your statement that gives me concerns about Gunn. There has been some contradictions in his statements now and especially what’s happening with Gal as well.
Forthas
Forthas - 8/17/2023, 9:52 AM
Wow! What a lying dirtbag! What was the point of getting rid a fan favorite actor then? The DCU is already a failure and James Gunn is a fraud who speaks out of both sides of his mouth (or Twitter feed).
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/17/2023, 10:01 AM
@Forthas

When has “fan favorite” ever been a compliment?
Forthas
Forthas - 8/17/2023, 10:22 AM
@regularmovieguy - Hmmm? When Robert Downey Jr portrayed Iron Man, Chris Evans portrayed Captain America, Chadwick Boseman portrayed Black Panther, Christian Bale portrayed Batman, Hugh Jackman portrayed Wolverine etc etc.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/17/2023, 10:34 AM
@Forthas

When has Henry Cavill made his case to be compared to Hugh's Wolverine, Evans' Captain America, Downey's Iron Man, or Boseman's Black Panther. He hasn't.

I like Cavill - seems like a nice guy. Maybe he could've given us a better Superman under someone else's direction but I haven't seen it. It's also been 10 years since MOS first came out, lol.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 8/17/2023, 10:38 AM
@regularmovieguy - idk why people are holding onto that shit

I want some good DC movies if mfs gotta get recasted then so be it they don’t own the role and all but mostly 1 of the movies his version was in people hate

I get Cavill is probably the most Superman looking mf we ever got but we can leave that garbage behind
Forthas
Forthas - 8/17/2023, 10:42 AM
@regularmovieguy - After Man of Steel everyone was hungry for a Man of Steel 2. It was the studio that kept forcing him into bad films. Unlike Sony which is obviously not as stupid as the people at WB they did not ditch a fan favorite actor like Hugh Jackman even though he was in some bad films also. They could understand what he brought to the role.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/17/2023, 10:48 AM
@Forthas

What did Cavill bring to Supes? I'll ask that. What did you think it was he brought to the table that makes him irreplaceable?

Sony didn't make the X-MEN movies btw. Fox did. And Hugh was good even when he was in shit movies like XMEN 3 and Origins.
Forthas
Forthas - 8/17/2023, 11:03 AM
@regularmovieguy - Cavill brought a solid cohesive origin story that was layered, included compelling villains and side characters and a thought exploration into what it is like to struggle to be accepted in an alien world. The film was well acted and included an excellent supporting cast. Cavil represents a starting point to build on. When James Gunns Superman comedy fails to register with fans...are we going to reboot yet again. Why not work from a strong starting point as opposed to hope that people are going to accept James Gunns brand of films which they have not so far.
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/17/2023, 11:21 AM
@Forthas - I like Cavill but eh 😂 Hell, Clark Kent is dead if we go by what was established in Batman vs Superman so we wouldn’t even have that aspect of the character. If you want to blame anyone the people who put them in this position to begin with. This wouldn’t even be a conversation if they hadn’t dropped the ball.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:22 AM
@Forthas - LORD willing, insulting isn't appropriate.

What did he lie about?
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