EDITORIAL: THOR and Green Lantern The Next Step in CBM's

EDITORIAL: THOR and Green Lantern The Next Step in CBM's

See why I think THOR and Green Lantern may be the next important step in comic book movie adaptations.

Editorial Opinion
By Hawksblueyes - Apr 30, 2011 07:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor



As comic fans, we are living in a time of great expectations. Comic book movies are being filmed and released at a pace some never dreamed possible. It wasn't very long ago that seeing our favorite superhero on screen was a pipe dream if our favorite hero didn't happen to go by the name of Superman or Batman and even then, what we were given may or may not have lived up to expectations.

The amount of "believability" our heroes could convey on screen was directly related to the limitations of the special effects technology available at the time. If you weren't happy with a stiff flying Superman or a body builder size HULK, there was no other option than to accept it for what it was (the best thing going at the time). You could be watching a film with your favorite hero, a well written story with great acting, but in the end you were left saying to yourself "someday they will make a super hero film that looks like a superhero film." There always seemed to be something lost in the action sequences.

IMO, 2002's Spider-Man made the largest leap forward from everything that had gone before in the visual department. For the first time it seemed like you were not watching a man in a costume stiffly act while being suspended from a wire, but that you were actually swinging through New York with Spider-Man. When he and The Green Goblin fought, you actually began to get the sense that these two characters were much stronger and faster than a human could be.

While the effects in CBM's have continued to improve since then, we have without a doubt, been let down on many occasions. The most memorable to me would be X-Men: The Last Stand's portrayal of Dark Phoenix. It seemed to me that the studio's had surpassed their technology once again by attempting to step up to a character with more power and ability's needing to be brought to life and it came across as stiff.


That's what brings me to the point of this article. We have eight (that's right, eight) CBM's coming out over the next four months. While expectations are high for each and every one, I personally think THOR and Green Lantern carry the future of the genre squarely on their shoulders. Neither of these heroes can be faked. Both posses immense power and skill sets. Both are set in fantastical fictional settings. Setting the story's, acting and script's for both aside, both are visual puzzles that would not have even been attempted five years ago. If done properly, both of these films should almost certainly surpass anything that has gone before, from a visual standpoint.

Early indications on THOR are good. It has not opened yet here in the states, but many of you reading this have already seen this film and give it extremely high marks. If Branagh has successfully brought all the mystical, powerful, fictional realm aspects of THOR to life it raises my confidence level for Green Lantern. If Green Lantern manages to capture the imagination, power and sense of grandeur that it should, the door is wide open for future CBM's.

No longer would a character not be considered due to a lack of technology. Between these two films, just about every visual power in comics, can, and hopefully, will be captured on film. Has technology finally caught up with the imaginations of comic book writers and artists? I certainly hope so because that would mean that no character is beyond technology's capability and the future of superheroes on film, has no limitations.
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Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 4/30/2011, 7:43 AM
;P
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/30/2011, 8:05 AM
Excellent article @ Hawks!!!

Yep THOR & GREEN LANTERN is the future for our loved cbm's!

Enough of crap and watered down useless sh1T from Fox...

We need magic at the movies and true adaptations!



Big Thumbs!!!
ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 4/30/2011, 8:21 AM
Hell yea! I'm extremely thankful that I can see all these great Heros receive thier justice on the big screen. I love the fact that the Avengers movie will be happening in my life time! I may be young, but that doesnt mean I can't be thankful! Lets rejoice in the fact that these CBM's are the stepping stones to some much greater stories waiting to be unfolded on the big screen!

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
ReillyParker
ReillyParker - 4/30/2011, 8:22 AM
Great Article Hawks! It was a good read and I wholeheartedly agree with you. If these movies are done right, which every indication is shown for Thor, then they're going to raise the bar for future CBMs.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 4/30/2011, 8:23 AM
Excellent HAWKS!

THOR and GL are def big upcoming things for CBMs, don't forget CAP but I'm pretty sure you're talking about the fantastical settings etc. that pretty much aren't in Cap, so...yeah.

Great stuff!
Berger45
Berger45 - 4/30/2011, 8:25 AM
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 4/30/2011, 8:29 AM
Slaine: I never once said, nor did I indicate, that those two films are anything short of classics. Having said that, I watched them both at the theater as a kid and although I absolutely loved them, even as a child I could see the visual shortcomings as far as technology goes.

TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 4/30/2011, 8:35 AM
@Slaine you missed the whole point of the article
Quasimodo
Quasimodo - 4/30/2011, 8:42 AM
No love for cap?
satanors
satanors - 4/30/2011, 8:43 AM
Just came back after watching thor. It was freaking sweet. marvel rulezzzz again. the after credits scene was a total disappointment though :(. too bad most fo you have to wait for another week. haha. Please do not watch it in 3d. nothing special there.
jonbat2
jonbat2 - 4/30/2011, 8:48 AM
Hawks I love your observations and agree 100%
Newbus
Newbus - 4/30/2011, 8:49 AM
Well I think these films should serve to expand film makers horizons rather than setting them in 'realistic universe'. Should consider how other studios would have made these films.
Darkknight23
Darkknight23 - 4/30/2011, 9:01 AM
Thor and Cap will be epic. Green Lantern should be good as well. But to me Superman the Movie is an all time masterpiece followed very closely by the Dark Knight, who ushered in a new era of comic book movies.
Moakynubs
Moakynubs - 4/30/2011, 9:04 AM
@TheIntruder

That is a really awesome cover. Forgot all about it.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/30/2011, 9:05 AM
thor has definetly raised the bar,not sure about green lantern haven't seen it yet.

do need film versions of the following storylines.

-secret wars
-secret wars 2
-infinity gauntlet
-world war hulk
-civil war
-secret invasion
-annihilation
-war of kings
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 4/30/2011, 9:15 AM
Godzillafart: As I tried to explain to Slaine, I don't deny at all that a good story, plot and acting are the most essential part to making a good film. I agree that CGI is merely a tool in the process, but it is tool that has held up many "far fetched" characters from even being considered for feature films.

The point is that if today's tech helps to make a good story/plot/acting believable, we will finally see characters that nobody ever dreamed of seeing on film before.
MARV3L
MARV3L - 4/30/2011, 9:17 AM
@Slaine You are totally missing the point, the fact that Thor in a visual and cinematic sense has been so successfully achieved means that there is no character or story that can't be told on screen now.

This is what makes it such a prolific step that producers and studios will be happy to take on anything regardless of how difficult visually it is to achieve. In my books this is ground breaking cinema at it's best as we all know great stories can be told since the dawn of cinema but not every great story can be successfully visualised... until NOW!

The future is special effects and original source material.
bucky18
bucky18 - 4/30/2011, 9:43 AM
This was a nice article.
CBMfan001
CBMfan001 - 4/30/2011, 9:48 AM
well said in the article,so many depending on these 2 movies for both marvel and DC/WB.I just hope both will do well which will open a whole new world of superheros.

@ TheIntruder - mate while I also would like that CBMs have "heavy drama, complex scripts and award winning performances."then those won't be CBMs.Tell me what CBM will ever go for a dramatic ending like the girlfriend of a hero dying,no one,it's all very predictable.(The Dark Knight been an exception)

With so many high quality CBMs that have come
(eg - xmen,ironman,spiderman,batman,superman)only "The Dark Knight" had the slightest chance and even that was poorly treated in Oscars.So I highly doubt the "Oscar" thing will happen to CBMs except in special effects department.

I will be happy if hopefully future CBMs will continue to be entertaining,exciting and if we will not have to witness another FF,Batman & Robin,Ghost Rider or a HULK (Ang Lee version)in the future.
Frecks
Frecks - 4/30/2011, 10:04 AM
@BlazeCage

Nic Cage Sucks!
CBMfan001
CBMfan001 - 4/30/2011, 10:40 AM
@ TheIntruder - mate the reason "The Dark Knight" was so successful in getting at least that close to Oscars is because it's a story of an ordinary man.Nothing to do with super powers or anything.As far as CBMs are concerned the most grounded/realistic movie that comes.

GL,THOR,Iron Man,x men,spiderman cannot be set in such a grounded level.Iron man found a new element in his home lab,spiderman bitten by a super spider got powers,GL has a ring that can make any construct in his mind are not grounded what so ever.

to be dramatic there need to be an element of surprise,if it's predictable and we know that the hero will always win without any sacrifices or consequences of been a hero that doesn't make it very dramatic right???true always the girl doesn't have to die but ALWAYS the girl and the city and the world cannot be saved in a true world also right.it will always remain cheesy.(I mean seriously if I was to write a realistic,dramatic script I wouldn't give the hero a chance to save the girl,I'll just finish her off and make him go mad)but very rarely people respond to that very rarely directors take that risk and that's why Oscars don't consider CBMs worthy of academy awards.

and please mate I appeal to you to be logical.Iron Man was a great movie because it's fun and entertaining.Very Much like Spiderman.Both are similar,entertaining and action packed awesome.

But The dark knight is different,it was compared to "Heat of Michael Mann",people still talk about heath ledger as the joker,the wonderful confrontation of joker and batman in the interrogation room.It was classic crime drama,it was different all together.It went where no other movie dared to go and succeeded.People loved it.go to imdb,box office mojo,flixter,the ratings are right there among the top films.

My favorite character is batman/bruce Wayne not any batman but I won't say batman begins was ground braking.BB like iron man,spiderman,x2 was a good well made movie.I won't say batman forever is a good movie,people talk about batman & robin but for me batman was destroyed in batman forever.

point is we all have our favorites (I assume urs is Iron man since ur icon is a cool iron man)but don't try to show that is the best.anyone and everyone knows in terms of acting,script The Dark Knight is something special and I won't think we will ever see such a movie again not even in batman 3.It will probably be a one off thing.

the effects will improve and we'll see so many things which we didn't dare to dream,one such thing is avengers a huge movie but now it's possible and it's amazing but the core of CBMs will remain the same because they are suppose to entertain.

I sincerely hope you will see logic in what I said,and I don't mean any disrespect.
SageMode
SageMode - 4/30/2011, 11:10 AM
The Dark Knight was an excellent movie, but you gotta be honest. The main reason why it did so well was the publicity surrounding Heath Ledger's death. The CBM genre is slowly but surely becoming more closer to Oscar winnings. And let's not forget that it was Blade that revitalized the new generation of CBMs. ;-)
Berger45
Berger45 - 4/30/2011, 11:22 AM
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 4/30/2011, 11:33 AM
I get tired of the General Public who says "Batman is my favorite because he's just a guy." Like hollywood today they show a lack of imagination.
TheAmazingSmitty
TheAmazingSmitty - 4/30/2011, 11:45 AM
@SageMode

I'd say it was X-Men that revitalized the new generation of CBMs, no one even knew that Blade was based on a comic when it came out because it didn't have the Marvel logo. Plus, vampire movies were pretty popular around that time so that definitely helped.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/30/2011, 12:02 PM
the dark knight is overrated once you've seen it,its very hard to watch more than twice.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/30/2011, 1:25 PM
@ warrocketajax

not everyone likes the dark knight,i think burtons batmans are better.

as for popcorn fodder when i go to the cinema i have popcorn with every movie i see.

so your point being what.............
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