THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER Spoilers - 3 Things That Worked And 3 Things That Didn't

THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER Spoilers - 3 Things That Worked And 3 Things That Didn't

Thor: Love and Thunder has finally arrived in theaters, and while we're keen to hear what you thought, we're now sharing a more in-depth analysis of what did and didn't work in the Marvel Studios movie...

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By JoshWilding - Jul 08, 2022 12:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Thor: Love and Thunder

With Thor: Love and Thunder now playing in theaters, it seems like as good a time as any to better explore both the good and bad aspects of Marvel Studios' latest blockbuster.

More than any recent MCU movie, the Thor: Ragnarok sequel feels like a real mixed bag in terms of quality. It's a far cry from that 2017 classic, and as a result, we'd argue that it's one of those lower-tier Marvel Studios outings (joining the likes of Ant-Man and The Wasp and, for many fans, Eternals). 

Still, as much as this movie often disappoints, there are plenty of moments that we loved. In this feature, we're breaking down what did and didn't work, getting into spoilers in the process. From botched character arcs to the scenes that stole the show, we're taking a deep dive into Thor: Love and Thunder, so turn away now if you haven't watched the movie yet!

To check out this in-depth breakdown, though, simply click on the "Next" button below.
 

Did Work: Some Fun Surprises

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Whatever faults Thor: Love and Thunder may have (and we'll get to those), it still manages to surprise us in a lot of fun ways. The biggest is arguably the MCU debut of Eternity, an omnipotent being that looks like "he" has just stepped straight out of the comic books. 

We're not sure about the character being portrayed as a being that basically just grants wishes, but it works, and is a clever way to better explore the MCU's cosmic side. 

Elsewhere, characters like Darcy, Selvig, and Darryl (yes, Team Thor's Darryl) all show up, while Thor: Love and Thunder's clever explanation for how Jane Foster becomes The Mighty Thor is arguably an improvement over the comic books. 

We just wish those Eitri and Grandmaster scenes with Gorr hadn't been cut...
 

Didn't Work: Not Enough Gorr The God Butcher

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One of this movie's biggest issues is, without a doubt, the amount of screentime dedicated to Gorr the God Butcher. After a clunky opening that sees him gain the Necrosword, the villain later attacks New Asgard, taunts the children he kidnaps, and has a couple of battles against Thor and company during the final act.

That's the extent of his role, and it's really not much. 

Gorr is an effective villain thanks to Christian Bale's work, but he desperately needed a few extra scenes for us to better understand his plans and motivations. We get a glimpse of the destruction he's caused, but not enough to make us believe he's a true "God Butcher." 

It's a shame as Gorr could have gone down as a classic MCU villain. Instead, he's another forgettable bad guy. 
 

Did Work: Meet The Mighty Thor

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In many respects, Thor: Love and Thunder rushes through Jane Foster's cancer diagnosis and subsequent transformation into The Mighty Thor. The latter happens off-screen, and while it's not too detrimental, it makes us wonder if this is a story that should have played out over two movies. 

Regardless, what we do get here works well. Flashbacks to how Thor and Jane's relationship broke down are welcomed, as is an exploration of their feelings for each other in the present day. 

The best part about this movie, though, is seeing The Mighty Thor in action. She's a true force to be reckoned with, and the fun both Natalie Portman and Jane are having comes across effortlessly on screen. We'd have liked the character to stick around a little longer, but as a whole, this story arc works nicely. 

Still, we'd be shocked if she doesn't eventually get the chance to leave Valhalla!
 

Didn't Work: It's Just Too Silly

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The MCU has relied heavily on comedy ever since Joss Whedon was enlisted to helm The Avengers, and it's an approach to storytelling that has worked well for Marvel Studios. 

Thor: Ragnarok was a very funny movie, but Thor: Love and Thunder relies too much on overly silly comedy. Humour is subjective, of course, and there are a lot of moments that are legitimately hilarious. However, the blockbuster too often veers into stupid, dumb gags, many of which undermine the serious moments (like Jane's battle with cancer, for example).

It's a shame, because this is an emotional movie at times, but it's one you may struggle to take seriously as it has a tone akin to the sort of goofy kid's comedies you can find on the Disney Channel.

We're not sure if Waititi is losing his touch or his act is becoming stale, but we do know that Korg has, unfortunately, overstayed his welcome at this point. 
 

Did Work: Another Fresh Start For Thor

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Thor: Ragnarok established an exciting new status quo for the God of Thunder, as did Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame

This is clearly a character Marvel Studios plans to continue putting a fresh spin on with each appearance, and the end of the movie lays the groundwork for another drastic alteration to the hero's place in the MCU. Having adopted Gorr's daughter (who was imbued with Eternity's powers when she was resurrected), he's a father now and even has Mjolnir back. 

Love isn't based on any specific characters from the comic books, but she wields Stormbreaker in battle at the end of the movie, while Thor is back to using his old hammer. 

We can't help but wonder if she'll be tied to a comic book character in the years to come, but for now, we're as excited and intrigued as we've ever been to see where Thor goes next. 
 

Didn't Work: "It's-A-Me, Zeus! Very nice!"

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We wanted to love our visit to Olympia, but it's not a destination we're overly keen to return to. Full of goofy-looking Gods (including a Bao God), this sequence offers an idea of just how bad Waititi's Star Wars movie could end up being. 

However, the biggest disappointment may be Zeus himself. Russell Crowe isn't necessarily bad, but it's hard to buy into this guy being a credible threat when he's just so daft. The actor sounds like a cross between Super Mario and Borat, and while the Greek God is supposed to be an arrogant ass, he's arguably too much of an idiot for us to really buy into him as a character. 

That does little to help a mid-credits scene introducing Brett Goldstein as Hercules. The Ted Lasso actor is talented, but a baffling choice to play this Avenger (at least the costume is 100% comic accurate).

Clearly set up as a future antagonist, we can't help but think he'll be just another goofball character. 
 

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VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 7/8/2022, 12:05 PM
I just heard "It'sa me- Borat!" In my head.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/8/2022, 12:05 PM
Didn't Work: Another Fresh Start For Thor

Did Work: "It's-A-Me, Zeus! Very nice!"

Fixed it
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 7/8/2022, 12:05 PM
Definitely agree with the critique about there not being enough Gorr. Disagree about the other critiques, and will add one of my own- Jane's actual transition to Mighty Thor (not her cancer journey) felt rushed (she's powerless one minute, then next time we see her she has been a hero for some time), and the actual romance aspect between the two (once they rekindle) was short-lived.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 7/8/2022, 4:01 PM
@HeavyMetal4Life - The horror imagery used for Gorr was terrifying. Something that should have been added in Did Work was the romance subplot with Thor and his Hammers. That was funny and well done. They definitely should have let the origins of Jane and Gorr breathe and grow instead of moving through it quickly.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 7/8/2022, 6:55 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - no lies detected! I agree with everything you said here.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 7/8/2022, 12:07 PM






Chappers
Chappers - 7/8/2022, 12:08 PM
The only issue I had with Gorr on the first watch was the opening scene, the origin of Gorr should have been a longer more fleshed out scene. It all went too fast for me to be that invested and I wanted to see more of the struggle and the initial downfall of the disciples.

Overall I enjoyed the movie though, personally loved the humour and was what I expected from Taika
LSHF
LSHF - 7/8/2022, 12:15 PM
Here we go again;

"3 Things That Worked And 3 Things That Didn't" Work for "you", Josh. Your thoughts and feelings on the subject are NOT universal.

For example, I don't let these things bother me. These are your issues, and I wish you would state them as such.

For example;

"3 Things That Worked And 3 Things That Didn't Work (For Me)".
CyberBishop
CyberBishop - 7/8/2022, 12:50 PM
@LSHF - Its Josh, in his egotistical mind he is the voice for all of us. Just look at articles like this.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/8/2022, 2:19 PM
@CyberBishop - I agree.

His articles are rough reading, which one of the main reasons I read all of the comic book movie "news" on other sites before coming here. And then rarely read the articles (because I already know about the info), so I mainly come here for the comments.

Professional critics tend to act like the "voice for all of us", and I especially don't when they try to "Jedi mind trick" us to feeling the way they do by stating such bullshit like, "You feel..." or "You think...", etc. by using the word, "You" instead of just referring to themselves.

It always puzzled me, because I wonder if that trick even works. I keep thinking, "No, I did NOT feel that way, Bozo!" Lol.
CaptainDC
CaptainDC - 7/8/2022, 3:09 PM
@LSHF - It's a blog site. It's implied to be subjective.

IGN just posted their "Top 10 Greatest Liam Neeson Movies" list. It's obvious there that it's opinion based.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/8/2022, 4:17 PM
@CaptainDC - I know that, but everyone does. And so too many people take their "opinions" as fact. That's my concern. Not that they take themselves too seriously, it's that others take them too seriously.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/8/2022, 12:16 PM
Zeus should have been played serious like Hopkins Odin.

Eternity was amazing.
Hercules looked OK,I guess he needs to hit the gym.
Gorr was good and needed more screen time but I didn't like the design of Gorr.
The humor was shite for the most part.
ManofSteel23
ManofSteel23 - 7/8/2022, 12:22 PM
It seems some important things where cut from this film, I remember seeing behind the scenes videos of Jane being lifted in the air literally next to the broken hammer and what looked like her shaking like hell turning into Thor, I expected to see that and we didn’t
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/8/2022, 12:27 PM
@ManofSteel23 - same. I remember that set photo leak and thought that scene would happen and then it cuts.
IcePyke
IcePyke - 7/8/2022, 12:28 PM
The greatest gladiator match in the history of the world. God versus God.
Asgardian versus Olympian.
God of Thunder versus God of Strength!🤘👊









Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/8/2022, 2:11 PM
@IcePyke -
The only part of that which will be adapted is Hercules kicking Thor in the nuts.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 7/8/2022, 12:33 PM
Saw this last night and honestly? Pretty [frick]ing stupid and I enjoyed Thor Ragnarok too..

This film only cements the growing fear I have that the MCU is dropping off hard after the (mostly) incredible Infinity Saga because most of Phase 4 has been underwhelming as hell (Moon Knight) or just plain bad (Eternals).

You’d think that Thor was left in a REALLY good place narratively after Endgame so Taika would run with it. You would think that casting Christian Bale for a character as intriguing as Gorr the God Butcher would yield exciting results… yeah BIG NO to both.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/8/2022, 12:43 PM
@TheLobster - They certainly are, some of the users are just going to accept whatever shit Marvel churns out and love it.

TheLobster
TheLobster - 7/8/2022, 2:48 PM
@marvel72 - yeah, I’m surprised how many love this when it’s… just not good lol
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/8/2022, 3:03 PM
@marvel72 - dude... it's OK to have a different opinion than others. Your opinion isn't a fact get over yourself
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 7/8/2022, 4:33 PM
@MyCoolYoung - That would be your opinion, let the guy talk.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/8/2022, 6:06 PM
@Razorface1 - he can talk all he wants but looking down on people for liking something makes you an asshole. That's not giving an opinion that's acting like your sensibilities are facts and they aren't
Corruptor
Corruptor - 7/8/2022, 12:49 PM
Anyone know if TW was a comic nerd as a kid at all? Or he just had the Spidey pyjamas like Feige?

Can imagine he was the school bully who bullied the comic nerds. Or was he bullied by the comic nerds... good Lord, imagine being the target of the ultimate targets...

Who said Zeus is supposed to be an idiot, he's the flippin' ALL-FATHER of the Olympian pantheon, should be as wise as Odin.
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 7/8/2022, 1:57 PM
I’m sure this is an unpopular opinion, but this movie and Ragnarok are of roughly the same quality. The difference is that Ragnarok had the benefit of being first and catching people by surprise.
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