THOR: LOVE & THUNDER's Russell Crowe On Actors Complaining About CBM Parts: "Here’s Your Role, Play The Role"

THOR: LOVE & THUNDER's Russell Crowe On Actors Complaining About CBM Parts: "Here’s Your Role, Play The Role"

Thor: Love and Thunder actor Russell Crowe has responded to Madame Web star Dakota Johnson's recent comments about the SSU movie feeling like "art “made by a committee.”

By MarkCassidy - Jun 14, 2024 08:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor: Love and Thunder

Russell Crowe is no stranger to comic book/superhero movies, having previously appeared in Man of Steel and Thor: Love and Thunder. He also has a role in Sony Pictures' upcoming Kraven the Hunter, and it seems the Academy Award-winner doesn't have much time for other actors who sign on for those type of films and then complain that they didn't reach a certain standard.

While chatting to GQ, Crowe was asked about his experience making superhero projects, specifically in light of Madame Web star Dakota Johnson saying she felt like the movie was art “made by a committee” in a recent interview.

"You cannot make art based on numbers and algorithms," said the actress. "My feeling has been for a long time that audiences are extremely smart, and executives have started to believe that they’re not. Audiences will always be able to sniff out bullsh*t. Even if films start to be made with AI, humans aren’t going to f*cking want to see those."

Many agreed with Johnson's comments and praised her for her honesty after Madame Web was brutally lambasted, but it sounds like Crowe may feel she's taking the whole thing a bit too seriously.

“I don’t want to make any comments to what anybody else might have said or what their experience is, but… you’re bringing out the impish quality of my humor. [Laughs.] You’re telling me you signed up for a Marvel movie, and some [frick]ing universe for cartoon characters… and you didn’t get enough pathos? Not quite sure how I can make this better for you. It’s a gigantic machine, and they make movies at a certain size…these are jobs. You know: here’s your role, play the role. If you’re expecting this to be some kind of life-changing event, I just think you’re here for the wrong reasons.”

Crowe did clarify that he wasn't making "this a direct comment on her because I don’t know her and I don’t know what she went through," acknowledging that "you can have a shit experience on a film… Yeah, you can.”

“But is that the Marvel process? I’m not sure you can say that,” he added. “I haven’t had a bad experience. I mean [on ‘Thor’], ok, it’s a Marvel movie, but it’s Taika Waititi’s world, and it was just a gas every day, being silly. And then, with JC Chandor on ‘Kraven,’ I’m just bringing a little weight to the circumstances, so the young actors have got an actor they can bounce off. Going to work with JC was fun. You know, so many of these directors have a certain skill level – freaking genius people.”

Crowe does make some valid points, but is it really too much to expect a movie - no matter the genre - to achieve a certain level of quality?

Be sure to let us know what you think in the comments section.

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Thing94
Thing94 - 6/14/2024, 8:26 AM
Get hired, do the work, get paid.
TheyDont
TheyDont - 6/14/2024, 9:04 AM
@Thing94 - Get hired, do the work, whine.
LysergicMeinbal
LysergicMeinbal - 6/14/2024, 10:22 AM
@TheyDont - Get hired,don't do the work,complain about not getting paid,claim victim of hate.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/14/2024, 10:49 AM
@LysergicMeinbal - Get born, cry, eat shit, cry some more, die.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/14/2024, 8:28 AM
Wow he is someone I'd be happy to work with. I also particularly like how he choked out azalea banks. She deserved it
LysergicMeinbal
LysergicMeinbal - 6/14/2024, 10:23 AM
@Vigor - she did....bish gotta know her place.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 6/14/2024, 8:30 AM
it was a life changing role for rdj chris evans chris pratt and so many others............just dont make shite movies
Origame
Origame - 6/14/2024, 9:24 AM
@WhateverItTakes - why is that so hard for Hollywood to understand?
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 6/14/2024, 10:30 AM
@Origame - I mean I could go on how many careers the MCU launched or reignited
Origame
Origame - 6/14/2024, 10:35 AM
@WhateverItTakes - oh yeah sure. But I was mainly talking about the part of don't make sh!t films.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 6/14/2024, 10:44 AM
@Origame - oh yeah that goes without saying 🙂. Most if not all have had compelling arcs at some point even though some films have been shit. Even drax was compelling until gunn took liberties with him
Origame
Origame - 6/14/2024, 10:49 AM
@WhateverItTakes - yeah. What gunn did to drax in the latter two movies should be considered criminal 🤣
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 6/14/2024, 11:03 AM
@Origame - it's generally the side characters that aren't very compelling like Jane Foster, Darcy, Happy, Ned etc because they don't have as much story
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 6/14/2024, 5:11 PM
@WhateverItTakes -



I mean it certainly made them rich and famous. But I wouldn’t say it gave everyone a career.

Mark Ruffalo, Jeremy Rennes, Scarlett Johansson abs RDJ were already great actors who did get a careee boost out of the MCU.

But Evans and Chris Hemsworth? Evans only has one hit outside the MCU and that’s Knives Out , and Hemsworth only has extraction which is a streaming film.

And it’s the same for other actors. I love Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Olsen, great actors , but outside the MCU they don’t have a big hit like the first four I mentioned.

So being in the MCU clearly doesn’t give everyone a career.
Reborn
Reborn - 6/14/2024, 8:35 AM
Isnt this woman the one that did the 50 shades of gray franchise? she signed for Madame Web because she thought it was part of the MCU and couldnt even do a few minutes google search and find out its not part, why she's talking as if she isnt the pne signing for these terrible movies in the first place?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/14/2024, 9:20 AM
@Reborn - TBF, when as an actor you haven't had a big break into the industry you kinda have to take anything your offered, the old beggers can't be choosers argument (family ties only only goes so far)...

...I never got why the 50 shades books became such a big thing cos they weren't good, but the percieved size of the fanbase for those is gonna be a factor too when considering a role...

...once you have a big success or three on your resume with a decent list of prior acting roles you were decent in (even if not all were big hits) you can start and be more selective (NOT saying if that was or wasn't the case for Dakota).

However, yeh, shouldn't take much research to know the difference between Disney Marvel and Sony Marvel and a good agent should ensure you know if not. Also the odds that there will be some form of creative committee behind such films, reliance on formula and the nature of the character meaning it could be a tough one to pull off to know in advance what your getting into. That said we never know for sure the personal exp an actor has and the differences between what was pitched to them compared to what the end result becomes too so...
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 6/14/2024, 10:39 AM
@Reborn - Wasn't it their agent that thought that? She did fire them afterwards or something I think.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 6/14/2024, 8:35 AM
His sex walk was the only good thing in love and thunder
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marvel72
marvel72 - 6/14/2024, 8:53 AM
@harryba11zack -

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Sorry I normally agree but just can't this time.

F*ckin terrible movie, I am embarrassed that I paid to see it at the cinema.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/14/2024, 9:03 AM
@harryba11zack - this all could have worked. They just needed to lean more into the Gods are psycho and also quirky bit.

Would make for interesting antagonists
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 6/14/2024, 11:34 AM
@harryba11zack - there was nothing good about that film
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 6/14/2024, 8:37 AM
Man, F*CK TAIKA for wasting Bale and Crow in such a shitty ass way.

And then you have users here expecting you to call this gutter trash shit "Cinema".

Clown world.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/14/2024, 9:51 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Thor 4 was a dog 💩 movie, but at least Bale put on a decent performance. Crowe was embarrassing.
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 6/14/2024, 10:04 AM
@Doomsday8888 - says te guy with Snyder stuff in his icon. Thor 4 was better than alllll a dat.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/14/2024, 1:21 PM
@mountainman - The first five minutes I thought was good then Thor showed up and I just wanted it to end.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/14/2024, 1:34 PM
@marvel72 - The first time watching it, I kept hoping Gorr was going to show up at Omnipotence City and wreck on all those stupid goofy “gods”. But no. Just cringey humor and the God Butcher storyline going absolutely nowhere. Hell that movie had the audacity to even joke about Jane’s cancer. And the stupid screaming goats. And Korg was more annoying than ever. Valkyrie was more lame and depressing than ever. And Thor fought the final battle with an army of freaking children. It may not technically be the worst MCU film, but it’s the one I dislike the most.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 6/14/2024, 5:21 PM
@Doomsday8888 -


Just because one movie is awful doesn’t mean every movie in the same genre is.

There’s terrible sci fi movies.
Like the alien sequels.
3 and 4 aren’t regarded as good movies but aren’t 1 and 2 master pieces ??

Cause if every CBM is shit just because lately they’ve been shit, that means every movie in every genre is too , when they start failing.
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 6/14/2024, 8:39 AM
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QuietStorm
QuietStorm - 6/14/2024, 11:04 AM
@BobbyDrake - User Comment Image
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/14/2024, 8:40 AM
Certain types of films need a deep intelligent stories with lots of twists and turns and a strong creative with a powerfull vision. That can be the case with comic related too (V for Vendetta type stuff) but with a blockbuster CBM however you CAN make a great, very entertaining film for the masses with a very simplistic narrative carried on good actions sequences more than anything else...

...ultimately if a studio is throwing a $200M budget at something there is always going to be at least some degree of tried and tested formula used proven to result in broad appeal. If you want something more arthouse look towards small budget passion projects for acting roles in the main but always bring your A-game so your happy with your own performance even if the end result of the film falls short.

I respect an actor opting to be selective with what films they do looking for shakespear level stuff and avoiding the more mainstream, I can respect actors who prefer the more craft driven stuff but also do the odd role for the fun of it and the bigger paycheck so they can afford to cover their bills whilst spending a lot of time between having low pay stage/small budget film roles...

...going for a role in a blockbuster type Marvel or DC film then complaining after the fact it is too many voices behind the scenes, creative committees or two much exec oversight/interference ete, erm, always comes across as not a good look even when they do have a good point.
LSHF
LSHF - 6/14/2024, 8:42 AM
"Quality"?

This very site, arguably, struggles with quality writing. Is it too much to ask for better quality writing? We've been asking for it and complaining about not getting it for a looooooong time.

So, yes, it's apparently too much to ask.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/14/2024, 8:45 AM
Idc what anyone says, Crowe was hilarious as Zeus 😂

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mountainman
mountainman - 6/14/2024, 9:52 AM
@FireandBlood - You and I have vastly different ideas around what is hilarious.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/14/2024, 9:58 AM
@mountainman - This guy was holding up his skirt, how is that not funny? Like something out of a Monty Python sketch
mountainman
mountainman - 6/14/2024, 10:02 AM
@FireandBlood - I just didn’t jive with Taika’s humor in this one. I love old mythologies and prefer the gods to be taken more seriously. And the God Butcher storyline is epic in the comics and it was a major let down in this movie.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 6/14/2024, 11:26 AM
@FireandBlood - 1000% agree. The movie was a step down from Ragnorok for sure but I think his Zeus was a highlight for me. Lmfaoooo!
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 6/14/2024, 8:46 AM
They both have a point. She's right about studios churning out crap because they don't really respect the audience. He has a point about "shut up and dribble" Especially when she chose the project. Nobody forced her.
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 6/14/2024, 8:54 AM
OT:
Spoken
Spoken - 6/14/2024, 8:55 AM
@clintthahamster - Looks pretty good. Like that they went with the "What If" style animation.
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 6/14/2024, 8:57 AM
@Spoken - Agreed. I saw some folks in the comments complaining that they hadn't tried to recreate Dave Gibbons' art, and I was like, they literally did.
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