Editorial: Gotham - Why i think the Joker should be like this charcter.

Editorial: Gotham - Why i think the Joker should be like this charcter.

On this editorial i will be comparing a charcter from a Japanese Franchise that has risen in popularity to the Joker and why i think Gotham's version of the Joker should be like this charcter. Yes there will be spoilers.

Editorial Opinion
By Malcopunch - Sep 23, 2014 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Gotham
Before i get onto this blog i've have a few things to say:

- Please be respectful in the comments 

- This will not be a fancast blog. This will be an idea blog

- This will have huge spoilers for Danganropa 2. You will see why later

- This is all in good fun. I don't expect this to happen it's just fun to think about

- I do not want the Joker to appear in Gotham but if he does appear this is how i would go about it

- What i am doing in this blog is basically stated that i think Fox's version of the Joker should be like a certain charcter in Danganropa 2
 
The Joker, one of the most iconic villains in pop calture and it's not hard to see why. The Joker has appeared in every form of media you can think of: comic books, movies, tv shows etc. It is pretty obvious that Joker has made his  mark. When you have a show set in the Batman Universe you have to have the Joker in some form. That leads us nicely to Gotham. I like the current idea for the Joker they have going: having hints about the Joker but let's be honest here that's not going to last. While i would like the Joker not to appear until Season 3 or beyond that's not going to happen so here is my question what would you do with the Joker in Gotham? Well let's get this one out of the way. While there is a possibly Joker might be much older than Bruce i doubt that will happen. My guess is that in the show he will be round about Riddler or Copperpot's age. I am willing to bet he will be around about 17-27 age. Here is my second question: how would you make a Joker ( and no i don't think calling him the Joker is going to happen in the show) who in this universe would be a teenager/young-adult work. Would they use the Red Hood or even have him fall into chemicals. Well no i don't think they are going to have him fall into chemicals for his orgin story. I do think he is most likely going be in the Red Hood Gang but i have a feeling his origin wil be different. Now onto something very important, how would his personality work. Well in my mind there is one certain charcter who basically imbodies the Joker expect unlike the Joker he is 17-19 years old. I introduce you

Nagito Komeada from Super Danganropa 2



You may be asking why out of all the charcters to embody what a Teenage/Young adult Joker why did i pick this guy. Well here is my reasoning why personality wise i would want a  teenage/young adult Joker personality wise and backstory wise to be like Nagito. 

Let's look at why Nagito fits my perfect image of what a teenage/young adult Joker would be like. 

First Point:

Insanity


One of the trademarks for the Joker is his insanity. The Joker would not be a Joker if he wasn't insane. All of the plans he has created it would be difficult to call the Joker not insane. Well what about Nagito, does he fit the requirments : is Nagito Komeada insane. Well you be the judge of that:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ01m9d1uGg

Yeah it is pretty clear that Nagito Komeada is pretty nuts, and that is not only moment of insanity. In Chapter 4 is Super Danganropa 2 is so insane he does Russain Rollete. He puts 5 bullets in a 6 chain revolver and pulls the trigger on himself without even breaking a sweat:

I would argue that while Joker's in the comics and most other media has protrayed his insanity not realistically as most insane pepole aren't like the Joker. The Joker in the Dark Knight reminds is the more distrubing and creepy than the other versions of the joker. Komdea here is the same type. He is creppy and distrubing at the same time. He also has the more playful version of insanity than other Jokers posses as he withholds the piece of info which is the rope that could be a vital clue to solving the case which it ends up doing. The entierity of Chapter 3 he just screws with you just for fun. So yeah Komeda imboties both the playful side and the distrubing side of the Joker. 

Diablocial Plans:

One of the tradmarks with the Joker is his plans he uses on Batman. Look at for example the Death of the Family for an example of that but what about our dear freind Komeda here. Does he hatch an diabolical plan to screw with the main heroes. Oh heck ya. In Chapter 5 he became dissalounted with the other remaining Danganropa 2 Charcters and decides to hatch one last plan. He plants bombs all around the island and if the traitor  doesn't reveal themselves to him well then he will blow the entire insland sky high: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=danganronpa+2+komaeda+dub+comparison. Like the Joker there is more to his plan that meets the eye. It turns out that the bombs are fake so what's his real plan. Well in a nutshell: he plans his own death in order to A. Reveal who is the traitor is. B. Be a complete troll C. Force the Danganropa 2 Cast in a unwinable case because Komeada intentially put a bottle of poison in with the fire extingushiers. So basically they are in a unwinnable suitable as the true murderer of the case is the one who threw the bottle of poison at the fire he started. Meaning the culprit did not even knew they did the murder. If that is not insane that i don't want is. Also he was also insane to inflict terrible wounds in himself..i mean look at his corpse ( WARNING and yes the blood is pink )


Let's get onto another topic that i am going to be combin into one topic since i don't want to make this too long. 

Does he cause deaths/ Does he care about other pepole?


Really the only pepole the Joker seems to care about and it's even debatable is Batman and Harley. Suprisingly at first Komeda loves all of the other students because of their Talents and wants to become a stepping stone but this changes when in Chapter 4 he finds out who the true villains of Super Danganropa 2 are. Not the Future Foundation who trapped them into the game. The true villains of Super Danganropa 2 are the Remeants of Despair who are actually the main 15 students of the game. The Reaments of Despair are the ones who brought the world spirling into despair. So it's kinda understanable he would turn on them beause he loves hope because he's [frick]ing insane. Let's go onto the second question does he cause death. The Joker causes deaths all the time but baring a few expectations none of those charcters and those we actually care about it. Nagito while he does not murder anyone is indirectly responsible for 3 deaths. 

Byakuya Togami


Teruteru Hanamura: ( Who was executed because he tried to stop Komeda's plan by killing him but he killed Togami instead. 

Link to Video: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eotlv4tE6RI

and finally Chiaki Nanami ( The Traitor who was excuted due to Komeda's plan)

Link to Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW8dEqlMsyM
So yeah Komeda's a bastard whose actions lead to the deaths of three pepole.

Finally we land to what makes the Joker 

The Backstory or lack thereof

When it comes to the Joker. His backstory is shrouded in mystery as the Killing Joke has stated. Komeda like the Joker has hints about his backstory through out the game but it the thing is like the Joker it is possible that Komeda is just screwing with you. That what makes him so intresting. We don't like what his backstory is but understand who he is. His backstory is hinted but never explained just like Joker. 

Conculsion:

Nagito Komeda basically is a teenage version of the joker. He is insane, Is pretty diabolocial with his plans as he forces you into a no win suitation in Chpater 5, is a complete troll as he mocks you and will hide evidence from you as a means to make the trial more intresting. At the end of the game he has a lack of empathy towards the other students and is solely responsible for the deaths of at least three of the students that were likeabe in their own ways. We get hints about his backstory but what do not the full story nor can we tell if he is lying or not.  Nagito is basically how i want Joker in Gotham to be: crazy, diaoloical, a complete troll, has no emphathy and is responsible for a lot of the bad stuff that goes on in Bruce's life. If they can make the Joker in Gotham has evil as Nagito than i am sure we will have a great villain on our hands 

There is so much more on this one charcter that i recommend you read threads such as this for more info:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/763296-danganronpa-2-goodbye-despair/70144692?page=2



One last thing..if you have a PS.Vita buy this game. No seriously or Gundam will destory you with his Four Devas of Destruction. 


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Alphadog
Alphadog - 9/23/2014, 11:17 AM
But the joker isn't supposed to be insane until he has the acident.
Malcopunch
Malcopunch - 9/23/2014, 11:29 AM
@Alphadog Not every Joker Origin has to have that accident. Dark Knight was fine with that.
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 9/23/2014, 11:58 AM
His origin was never explained in TDK. In Gotham they will show his origin and he has to be dropped in a vat of chemicals to be insane.
PAF
PAF - 9/23/2014, 12:24 PM
To quote the iconic Catwoman from TDKR

Malcopunch
Malcopunch - 9/23/2014, 12:39 PM
Pretty much. Honestly i never liked the origin expressed in the Killing Joke (MASSIVE FLAME SHIELD)
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 9/23/2014, 12:50 PM
You know they could just make the Joker like, um I don't know, the Joker
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 9/23/2014, 1:36 PM
@Malcopunch Me neither.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 9/23/2014, 5:07 PM
@Scorpion
Except DBZ right....?
Right?
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 9/23/2014, 7:05 PM
@Scorpion8125 Amen.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 9/23/2014, 7:39 PM
Make him like the Joker. Why would they ever consider making him like anyone else?
staypuffed
staypuffed - 9/24/2014, 2:23 AM
I wasn't big on the Joker having an origin until I read Batman: Zero Year. The story of the Red Hood is brilliantly executed in that.
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