SPOILERS: GOTHAM Executive Producer Addresses Last Night's Major 'Joker' Twist

SPOILERS: GOTHAM Executive Producer Addresses Last Night's Major 'Joker' Twist

Last night's episode of Gotham featured a shocking twist which will take the Batman prequel's plans for The Joker in a much different direction than expected. So, what's next for the Clown Prince of Crime? Hit the jump for details on that and the reasoning behind that twist...

By JoshWilding - Oct 06, 2015 07:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Gotham
Source: Deadline
Gotham had the last laugh on us all last night when Jerome was killed, a move which put an end to the theory that he was the man who would one day become The Joker. Cameron Monaghan spent pretty much every episode he appeared in imitating Heath Ledger's take on the villain from The Dark Knight, so it wasn't exactly hard to imagine him one day cutting those scars into his face or even falling into a vat of chemicals after deciding to become the Red Hood. So, why kill him off in episode three? "It’s a twist that leads to more twists," showrunner Bruno Heller tells Deadline. "The creation of the Joker is a larger and more epic story than people realize, and this show is very much about kind of the deep, secret history. So, as the show rolls on, people will see how a mythology is born, how a kind of cultural mien is created that will lead us to the Joker himself."

What's next for The Joker in Gotham remains to be seen, but Heller confirmed that they have not yet cast anyone in that role. It also doesn't sound like when he is brought into the series that he will share too many similarities to his comic book counterpart in terms of the origin story (at least not at first). "Sometimes backstories are more complicated and interesting than, you know, falling into vat of toxic chemicals or being bitten by a spider. Like they say, nobody creates themselves out of whole cloth, whether it’s Elvis Presley, or you name it — Jesus. There’s a tradition in forebears and ancestors of those characters that went into creating them. So, to me, Jerome is genuinely the mother and father of the Joker. He is the seed of the Joker." In other words, they're taking a much longer approach with delving into the iconic villain's story. "You’ll see how Gotham itself coalesces around the legend of Jerome. I don’t want to give away too much, but the audience will see an organic progression towards the real history of the Joker, rather than a kind of legendary supervillain who creates himself out of nothing." What do you think about these comments?
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VileBlood
VileBlood - 10/6/2015, 7:26 AM
The last thing The Joker needs is a backstory.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 10/6/2015, 7:26 AM
"Gotham had the last laugh on us all last night when Jerome was shot dead,"

Well actually he was stabbed in the neck, but on to the rest of the article...
KelvTwelve
KelvTwelve - 10/6/2015, 7:28 AM
lol I called it the other night. The entire series is going to dick us around with possible Jokers until the end of time.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 10/6/2015, 7:29 AM
I was actually really starting to dig Jerome though, I'm gonna miss that crazy bastard..
osideous
osideous - 10/6/2015, 7:29 AM
shot huh. pretty sure he was stabbed in the neck with a 2 inch blade.
JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 10/6/2015, 7:30 AM
I don't like the thought of the real joker being a poser!
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 10/6/2015, 7:31 AM
I said it before and I'll say it again, this is over complicating his origin for the sake of it. I get that they want to be different but why just go with all these crazy twists when its just going to make things more convoluted and confusing in the end?
GAThrawnIGF
GAThrawnIGF - 10/6/2015, 7:31 AM
Let's see...where do I start. For one, he was stabbed in the neck, not shot dead. For two, he was nothing like Heath (the worst Joker). He was, however, completely like Mark Hamill, down to his stage presence, makeup shtick, and gloating in front of the TV cameras.
Shapopojoe
Shapopojoe - 10/6/2015, 7:32 AM
What about Jerome being brought back from dead via the Lazarus pit? Theo might be an assassin...huh....Raza Al Ghul...Theo..never see em together...uh...
rabid
rabid - 10/6/2015, 7:36 AM
He's not the Joker. The comics have had many Joker-like characters. He is one of those, spreading his laughing man meme.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 10/6/2015, 7:37 AM
Still angry. Best character on the show.

Pasto
Pasto - 10/6/2015, 7:40 AM
@GodzillaKart
Lmao, exactly
Donovan
Donovan - 10/6/2015, 7:47 AM
... @GentlemanlyBatman lol...fun thing about this show is that they're building a variant story & it should be fun...Wheter Joker have a backstory that compliments the character, I don't think this specific story need to be adressed, but, hey, whatever; it's more how you tell the story, not the story itself...
grif
grif - 10/6/2015, 7:48 AM
what a [frick]ing piece of shit show. how can people support this trash?
Hatsas01
Hatsas01 - 10/6/2015, 7:50 AM
I thought Joker would pride himself as being an original, not copying a meme
Hatsas01
Hatsas01 - 10/6/2015, 7:51 AM
@grif
Support is a strong word. Mondays are boring
Humperdink
Humperdink - 10/6/2015, 7:53 AM
@GodzillaKart

Translation: Making it up as we go.


Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 10/6/2015, 7:53 AM
"the audience will see an organic progression towards the real history of the Joker, rather than a kind of legendary supervillain who creates himself out of nothing."

...but... Shouldn't the Joker of all characters be a "Lengendary Supervillian"?

I feel that the more complicated they make origin stories, the worse they are. Take his "bitten by a radioactive spider" comment... The last two Spider-man films tried to make it more complicated than that, with secret research by Peter's father and all, and it ultimately detracted from the character. "Creating yourself out of nothing", being the originator rather than a successor, is always more impressive.
rabid
rabid - 10/6/2015, 7:54 AM
Foolsgoldfinger
Foolsgoldfinger - 10/6/2015, 7:55 AM
First of all, all TV shows "make it up as they go" to a certain degree. Why do you think that first season crap-fest of AoS quickly changed direction in the second? At least Gotham keeps shifting in expected ways. Keeps the viewer guessing. And, that's a good thing.
And GentlemanlyBatman..."Damage Control" will be the first CB TV series to get cancelled. Very quickly.
Foolsgoldfinger
Foolsgoldfinger - 10/6/2015, 8:00 AM
It continues to amaze me how the haters of this show seem to continue to watch it! Funny, huh.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 10/6/2015, 8:10 AM
Jerome was good.
Greengo
Greengo - 10/6/2015, 8:25 AM
Sucks for Cameron.
Greengo
Greengo - 10/6/2015, 8:27 AM
I think they were just testing the waters with this character to gauge audience reaction.

If the audience/ratings had a positive reaction, they would have continued his story line and evolution towards the classic Joker incarnation.

It doesn't seem the fans of this show were too keen on this character.

rabid
rabid - 10/6/2015, 8:29 AM
That time Jeremy/Karnevil met his idol the Joker. (Salvation Run #7)

MrSocko
MrSocko - 10/6/2015, 8:29 AM
Will someone please take the keys to the castle away from these hacks... who the hell from WB is allowing for this debacle to continue??
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 10/6/2015, 8:32 AM
Joker doesn't have to have his history explained. That's one of the many reasons Batman '89 is such a piece of shit.
SuperSpiderMan5778
SuperSpiderMan5778 - 10/6/2015, 8:35 AM
he did NOT imitate Ledger's Joker. he actually nailed the laugh. welp I guess I have to have faith b/c I thought this guy was a pretty good Joker. Please don't suck Gotham.
SecretWarrior
SecretWarrior - 10/6/2015, 8:37 AM
Um maybe he's not dead? I didn't see the episode but on shows no one is ever really dead. I'm just saying
DangerDuck83
DangerDuck83 - 10/6/2015, 8:41 AM
I get why they are making some back stories so "deep" but don't like the idea of making The Joker a copy cat! They want to use as much bat villains as they can without really introducing them because it's not a Batman show. It also sounded like they want to milk that Joker cow again and again!
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