TRUE DETECTIVE Star Kali Reis Responds To Nic Pizzolatto's Latest Disparaging Social Media Posts

TRUE DETECTIVE Star Kali Reis Responds To Nic Pizzolatto's Latest Disparaging Social Media Posts TRUE DETECTIVE Star Kali Reis Responds To Nic Pizzolatto's Latest Disparaging Social Media Posts

Original True Detective creator Nic Pizzolatto has continued to share negative responses to season 4, Night Country, prompting a response star Kali Reis (Navarro)...

By MarkCassidy - Feb 21, 2024 07:02 AM EST
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True Detective creator Nic Pizzolatto has once again come under fire for publicly bashing the fourth season of HBO's anthology series.

Pizzolatto, who was the driving creative force behind the previous three seasons, recently had some not particularly flattering things to say about  Night Country, and following Sunday's finale, he has once again taken to social media to share some negative reactions from viewers.

Though he has since deleted the Instagram post in question, Pizzolatto highlighted comments referring to Night Country as a “hot mess” that “butchered and misappropriated” the first season’s “all time classic dialogue,” among other things.

Upon being made aware of the post, Night Country star Kali Reis (Evangeline "Siqiññaatchiaq" Navarro) took to Twitter to share her reaction.

“That’s a damn shame,” Reis wrote. “But hey I guess if you don’t have anything good to share, shit on others’ is the new wave lol.”

New showrunner Issa López, who co-wrote and directed all six episodes of the new season, weighed in on Pizzolatto's initial comments last week.

“I believe that every storyteller has a very specific, peculiar, and unique relation to the stories they create, and whatever his reactions are, he’s entitled to them. That’s his prerogative. I wrote this with profound love for the work he made and love for the people that loved it. And it is a reinvention, and it is different, and it’s done with the idea of sitting down around the fire, and [let’s] have some fun and have some feelings and have some thoughts. And anybody that wants to join is welcome.”

Night Country - and the finale, especially - did prove to be fairly divisive, but if Pizzolatto is attempting to spin the season as some sort of failure, the viewing numbers definitely don't support it.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the final episode drew the season’s largest first-night audience, bringing in 3.2 million cross-platform viewers. These figures reflect “the first airing on HBO, two replays later in the night and streaming on Max.” Night Country has averaged 12.7 million total viewers per episode, making it the most watched season of the show yet.

"When the long winter night falls in Ennis, Alaska, the eight men who operate the Tsalal Arctic Research Station vanish without a trace. To solve the case, Detectives Liz Danvers (Jodie Foster) and Evangeline Navarro (Kali Reis) will have to confront the darkness they carry in themselves and dig into the haunted truths that lie buried under the eternal ice."

What did you make of True Detective: Night Country? Drop us a comment down below.

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Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/21/2024, 7:22 AM
Can't blame him, I lasted 20min of the first episode until I realized that the dialogues were just plain bad and boring.

Felt more like a badly written Fargo (TV series) than True Detective.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 2/21/2024, 7:29 AM
@Usernametaken - then you do what grown ups do: stop watching. He's acting like the following seasons were a masterpiece and it was as messy as this new (not to say worse). Also he works for a TV channel, he's paid to develop something for them, once it's done its theirs, not his. He's totally acting like a baby.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/21/2024, 7:39 AM
@braunermegda - That's what I did.

As for Pizzolatto, he worked on that show for almost a decade, if the dude who created and was the showrunner is not entitled to say his opinion, then nobody is.

That being said, the way is doing it is indeed acting like a baby, but nobody is forced to listen to him. So I say let the dude talk, even assholes have the right to speak their mind.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 2/21/2024, 8:08 AM
@Usernametaken - 100% agree. I also didn't go through, simply wasn't for me as well.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 2/21/2024, 8:32 AM
@braunermegda - He created True Detective to be the sole showrunner for it. Clearly something happened between him and HBO because his season 4 never made it to fruition. I think it’s pretty fair for Nic to be turned off by someone taking over what he created.

Whether he should be posting trash online is another debate but I get it.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 2/21/2024, 8:41 AM
@thedrudo - I get it too, he created the thing and has the right to speak if he likes or not. But the way he's doing is lame, he's just being a cry baby who's jealous of his friend's new toy. He's in the business long enough to understand how these things are (or at least should understand). Plus he's acting like he's a goddamn genius who created a flawless masterpiece, and he may have with S01 but from then it was just downhill, not better than the current season and he's shitting at the people who're making. Again, he has the right to dislike what's been done to his work, but he created for a tv channel, who owns the material and the copyright, and is complaining in a imature and childish way like he has the morals or the perfect curriculum to do so (s01 was the only thing he did that was exorbitant good)
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 2/21/2024, 11:39 AM
@Usernametaken - He absolutely has a right to his opinion. But there's a way to express it without being a douchebag. I wonder how he would react to somebody trashing his work like that.
DiegoMD
DiegoMD - 2/21/2024, 1:02 PM
@braunermegda - The worst part is that he could criticize the show in an elegant way in which he didn´t sound like a dick, but he chose to act like a jackass and hurt the feelings of others.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 2/21/2024, 7:23 AM
Haven't seen the last episode yet, so I haven't read this article, but the show is [frick]ing fantastic. Kali Reis is also a great actress. It's hard not to compare her to another actress who also got their start in combat sports...but never really got the acting part down.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/21/2024, 8:41 AM
@Izaizaiza - After reading her response I thought, "good for her." It was a smart, highly appropriate response. Whether you like it or not (only watched the 1st season, which was awesome, but then couldn't get into the 2nd), Pizzolattos needs to stop being a jacka$$. If you have nothing nice to say then F*** Off!
THEREALPAPERKUT
THEREALPAPERKUT - 2/21/2024, 7:35 AM
Funny to me that the only thing universally-praised thing this guy has written, he supposedly plagiarized.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 2/21/2024, 10:25 AM
@THEREALPAPERKUT - Source?
THEREALPAPERKUT
THEREALPAPERKUT - 2/21/2024, 11:41 AM
@soberchimera - A lot of Rust's monologues are lifted from authors like Thomas Ligotti and Alan Moore.

https://lovecraftzine.com/2014/08/04/did-the-writer-of-true-detective-plagiarize-thomas-ligotti-and-others/

soberchimera
soberchimera - 2/21/2024, 12:07 PM
@THEREALPAPERKUT - Interesting, never heard of Ligotti before.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 2/21/2024, 7:44 AM
Aside from the anti-woke nonsense, I don't really get the backlash. Not every mystery was solved, but it wasn't in the first season either. As a character piece, it worked very well and there was some genuinely creepy moments.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/21/2024, 9:26 AM
@MarkCassidy - "Aside from the anti-woke nonsense, I don't really get the backlash."

But you do get the anti-woke stuff?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 2/21/2024, 11:51 AM
@SATW42 - I get the reasons for the backlash, doesn't mean I agree with it.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/21/2024, 12:52 PM
@MarkCassidy - ah
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 7:46 AM
Ok, he's the creator of the franchise though. If anyone has a reason to call your show a hot mess, it's him.

But then again, we're in an age where these things are taken way too personally. His comments weren't about anyone in particular. Just the show, and specifically the finale.

This is why Hollywood is in shambles. They just dismiss everything as trolls and continue doing what they've been doing while their box office and viewership disappears.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 2/21/2024, 7:56 AM
@Origame - I'm only about half way through this season. For what it's worth I'm enjoying the change of setting and literally the darker environment.

The show is his in name only as the creator of the title and loose set up of having detectives solve a case. He had 0 input on this season as far as I'm aware...he's already let it be known he was wasn't involved, but by keeping up the loud negativity he just continues to show how egotistical he is...but like you said he's got the right.

I just remember the whole fallout with him and the director or season 1 which he was kind of meta about in season 2. That was funny in a petty way.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/21/2024, 8:44 AM
@Origame - If anyone has a right to be angry it's the cast and crew of the scrapped, already finished Batgirl.

Dude should be honored people actually want to keep his work going.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:24 AM
@UniqNo - that really isn't an excuse. It's still his franchise and legacy this season is using. If you really wanted to separate it from that franchise, don't give it the name.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:25 AM
@lazlodaytona - bringing Batgirl into this is completely irrelevant.

And no, he shouldn't be happy with it if his work is being tarnished in his eyes.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/21/2024, 9:34 AM
@Origame - ok. Sorry man.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:35 AM
@lazlodaytona - it's OK. Sorry if I'm over emotional. Just had someone try to get me banned for just stating my opinions.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/21/2024, 9:39 AM
@Origame - I hate when that happens. Have had it happen to me before.
Am glad u are still on here; always enjoy ur comments and viewpoints.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 2/21/2024, 9:42 AM
@Origame - Na, i get that, and him saying initially he wasn't involved this season should be enough...but he keeps shitting on the show on a regular basis...which he's entitled to as you say, but it doesn't paint him in a good light, especially added with all the previous drama from him with season 2 etc.

Hbo are within their right to lisence the title though if he signed a contract. But yeah he can be vocal about his dislike, but just the same as those on the receiving end of his critism.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:43 AM
@UniqNo - also, as others have pointed out, this season does use dialogue and imagery from season 1. And he is addressing specifically that part of it. So they are using what he created beyond the name and he definitely has the right to complain.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:44 AM
@lazlodaytona - thanks. And watch out for variant. The dude really won't let any negative mcu points stand on this site. And yes, he's the one to try and get me banned.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 9:48 AM
@UniqNo - but it also wasn't by choice. He wanted to do season 4 but was essentially forced out by hbo.

And while they are in their rights, that was never in question. It's all about the legacy. It's an intellectual property after all. They may own the property, but they don't own the intellect.

Hollywood has been having too much control over these franchises and screwing over the creators. It's really about time they started speaking up.

Did you hear what happened with frank darabont and the walking dead? That was a travesty what they did to him.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 2/21/2024, 9:52 AM
@Origame - Ah ok, i wasn't aware about the imagery and the dialogue. In that case i understand some more.

Yeah that issue with TWD was pretty shitty. He got a pretty good payout thought right? or is that legal issue still going on.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 10:13 AM
@UniqNo - they actually screwed him over with firing him and didn't pay. He did sue them and settled for $200 mil though.

https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/the-walking-dead-what-happened-to-frank-darabont-2280273/
UniqNo
UniqNo - 2/21/2024, 10:17 AM
@Origame - Yeah the 200mil result is what i was referring, but it's a pity it only came after he had to enact legal action.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 10:19 AM
@UniqNo - yeah. We gotta empower creators to speak their minds.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 2/21/2024, 11:34 AM
@Origame - He has the absolute right to feel any way he wants about it. I don't have any idea why they went with someone else to run the show or why he's mad. Again, he has the right. These things happen all the time in this industry. But either way, his fight is with the studio. Not the people on the show. As a professional, you don't trash your contemporaries. At most, he should have said "That's not the direction I would have gone." He's making himself look bad which could impact a studio's decision whether or not to hire or work with him in the future. The current show runner's response was graceful and only made her look like a true professional, possibly even justifying the studio's reasoning for the replacement in the first place. By the time a project gets to the audience, it is what it is and opinions are subjective. But during development, if someone makes themselves not worth the effort, then they won't get hired again. Doesn't matter if they had previously made the studio some money.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 11:42 AM
@Patient2670 - who said anything about the people who made the show? His complaints here are with the show itself, which in his mind has ruined the franchise he created. That is not against the people who made it.

This is why I keep saying we can't take these comments so personally. Hating a sandwich you ate isn't an insult to the person who made it.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 2/21/2024, 11:58 AM
@Origame - Again, I'm agreeing with you here. He's entirely entitled to his opinion. But when you're trashing the writing and directing in particular - which was all credited to one person, it's tough not to infer it as trashing them. I'm just saying, He could have been critical without sounding like a douchebag. It does him no favors. Especially after having faced similar criticisms about his own work on previous seasons.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 1:45 PM
@Patient2670 - thats why I keep saying you shouldn't take people criticizing something you worked on as against you. Especially since it was started by him.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 2/21/2024, 3:21 PM
@Origame -Not always easy in a creative endeavor that you've just invested a couple years of your life on, especially when stated as he did. I actually think criticism can be a helpful and useful thing. Hence my criticism of Nic Pizzolatto for the manner in which he expressed his feelings on the subject. There was nothing to be gained by it and if he felt that he had to defend himself from someone who wrongly blamed him for a show they didn't like? He could have just left it as "I had nothing to do with the season." The end. And good for Issa López responding with class and dignity.
Origame
Origame - 2/21/2024, 4:37 PM
@lazlodaytona - hey, so the guy is still trying to get me banned. If anything happens, would you be willing to vouch for me?

He's legit trying to say I'm spamming, trolling, and harassing users. Does any of that sound like what I do?
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