Terry Gilliam Trashes Zack Snyder's Watchmen

Terry Gilliam Trashes Zack Snyder's Watchmen

"They lost me by the end, frankly, but it was certainly looking better than what I was going to do!"

By Galactus - Aug 24, 2009 10:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Watchmen

Monty Python alum, Terry Gilliam, spent years trying to get his version of "Watchmen" made into a movie before deciding that the book wasn't filmable. So what did he make of Zack Snyder's attempt? Not much...

It got trashed, but there are great sequences in there, but the overall effect is kind of turgid in a certain way. I started putting it down to… you know, in the comic book, or graphic novel… They're still comic books to me (laughs)… It's like the Comedian's coffin is going into the grave with the stars and stripes on top of it and reading it in the comic book it's three panels, boom, boom and boom. On film "hhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm…"

The pace is wrong. I was glad our version didn't get done, the one that Charles McKeown and I had wrote, because we had reduced it down to about two hours and five minutes I think and we lost so much. Comedian was cut down to next to nothing. So [Zack Snyder] did a good job, but it just felt… I also thought "The Incredibles" had kind of [frick]ed it for him... [S]o much of that material had been in a quarry that everybody had been digging goodies out of and suddenly you get lost. I think "Watchmen" really bothered me, because I thought it should be better. It was all there. It looked right, but to me it was pace. It didn't have pace. It needed a bit more quirkiness in there. Dr. Manhattan was getting boring, frankly, and then Ozymandias by the end I thought "Oh, come on!" They lost me by the end, frankly, but it was certainly looking better than what I was going to do! (laughs)
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MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/24/2009, 10:48 AM
Nothing he says is wrong! The ending was very rushed and Ozymandiaz really let me down. But it didn't spoil my enjoyment of an amazing movie.
CRITIC17
CRITIC17 - 8/24/2009, 10:52 AM
@Ror: Hell yeah it didn't!!! If I made the movie it would have pleased everyone and would have been 4 1/2 hours.
SabretoothTiger
SabretoothTiger - 8/24/2009, 10:57 AM
man i never read the graphic novel of this but the movie was amazin imo the actin was on point and the effects looked real as hell the music was way good as well i think its one of the best MOVIES in the past decade to come out not just comic book movie
TheBat
TheBat - 8/24/2009, 10:59 AM
I liked for the most part. It did have some problems though.
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 8/24/2009, 11:01 AM
Glad to find that I wasn't the only one disappointed with the Watchmen movie. So much of the movie is spot-on right that I really want to like the film, but I just can't, for reasons I've expounded upon numerous times on this site. It's interesting to hear this take from another director who tried to bring the comic books to the big screen.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/24/2009, 11:03 AM
every movie has problems. this was way closer to the source material, and no plot holes what so ever, yet most think of the dark knight as the best comic movie ever made?? doesn't make too much sense...
SuperPowered
SuperPowered - 8/24/2009, 11:05 AM
Disappointing to say the least. I took my wife to see that movie and she was not happy.
undeadpool
undeadpool - 8/24/2009, 11:07 AM
I would have liked it to be more true to story from beginning to end but after watching the movie a few times I am pleased. It's not likely anyone else would have done better. The beauty of a comic is the reader contols the pace. You may be enthralled racing along to read/see what happens next or be captured by the artwork of a panel.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/24/2009, 11:18 AM
An BRAZIL was a masterpiece.... NOT!

WATCHMEN was the comic book movie of the DECADE!!!

Whats TERRY now 70??? Course he friggin' gonna trash it lol!

WATCHMEN was near PERFECT!!!

; )
Bamf7
Bamf7 - 8/24/2009, 11:24 AM
Eh, I wouldn't say he was "trashing" it. But yeah, I agree. I mean, I didn't like it as much as a bunch of you, but I didn't hate it. I think it's an incredibly difficult story to accurately translate, but they did a good job with it.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/24/2009, 11:28 AM
Actually Lee, Brazil is a masterpiece!:)
gibbyblaylock
gibbyblaylock - 8/24/2009, 11:35 AM
Coming from the guy that said Watchmen was "unfilmable" I'd say this is a compliment. And coming from the guy who made Tideland, I'd say thank god he didn't make Watchmen.

I took my wife to see Watchmen as well. She hadn't read the book. And she F'ing LOVED it.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 8/24/2009, 11:40 AM
I wouldnt say that he's trashing Watchmen as such - just giving his opinion on what he would have done differently!

I actually find it hard to agree with him - even after watching The Directors Cut I still wouldnt say i got bored (though 3hrs did feel a bit too long - though i find 3hrs too long for any movie) As for the ending, i actually thought it was better than the graphic novel! :)
SHHH
SHHH - 8/24/2009, 11:50 AM
Watchmen is NOT for everyone. Btw watchmen dc was awesome!
Rokrad
Rokrad - 8/24/2009, 12:02 PM
@ Teabag nice avatar... ballichinian!

I thought that Watchmen was great just that everyone expected lots of action like 300 but Zack Snyder wanted to do something different.
superdog
superdog - 8/24/2009, 12:03 PM
hes just giving honest critique. i give him credit for that. i enjoyed the movie immensely and it sounds like he liked it too. as teabag said he admitted that his would have been worse. so i give him credit for that too.
InstigatorGIRL
InstigatorGIRL - 8/24/2009, 12:10 PM
It was okay, but I found the movie to be slow compared to the GN. I love the GN. But it wasn't a horrible movie. The comedian was gr8. The guy who played Ozy was horrible though...
SabretoothTiger
SabretoothTiger - 8/24/2009, 12:18 PM
ya i agree that ozy was like the only part i didnt like about the movie whoever did dr. manhattans voice was perfect though and comedian was one of the best parts of the movie
Necrophobos
Necrophobos - 8/24/2009, 12:40 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I for one liked a lot. Can hardly wait for december when the Ultimate Edition comes out. And then, this movie will go down in the history of cinema as the longest comic book movie. It will probably clock around 210 minutes. Take that TDK.

@teabag: from what movie is your avatar? it's driving me crazy not remembering. could you give a crazy man a hand?
SHHH
SHHH - 8/24/2009, 1:02 PM
@SirPrize Why so serious?


Need help! I heard there was gonna be a Tales of the Black Freighter version of Watchmen with 15 - 25 extra minutes? is this TRUE?
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 8/24/2009, 1:07 PM
good Rorschach = DarthMulder was satisfied.

BUT they did leave a lot out, some of which I would have liked to see left in. They messed up Ozymandias, and I agree with what this guy said about the pacing.

There were things about it that everyone else liked but I hated. I hated the music. I don't like folkly hippie or christian stuffs like Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen.

So there were things I liked and there were things I didn't. It sounds like that's how it is for a lot of people.
Necrophobos
Necrophobos - 8/24/2009, 1:28 PM
SHHH@ yap. it sure is. like said before, it should be at around 210 minutes with the aditional footage that came with the director's cut and the inclusion of "Tales of the Black Freighter". This should be: Watchmen Ultimate Edition, and Rorschach is supposed to *** again around december.

teabg@ thanks man. you sure know how to put someone out of his misery ;)
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 8/24/2009, 3:01 PM
Everything about the movie was great but the end/climax was a bit of a let down. Everything up to that point deserved something better.
Bandrews1
Bandrews1 - 8/24/2009, 3:08 PM
Terry Gilliam stops hating cause you didn't get to do it.
dancingmonkey08
dancingmonkey08 - 8/24/2009, 3:12 PM
I will admit that I wasnt amazed by Watchmen but I didnt grow up with it, thats probably why. But I liked watching the movie and I would watch it again because it was an intelligent movie with a great plot, impressive action and it had brilliant actors in it. Now I liked Wolverine too but then again I grew up with X-Men, I get it hard to hate anything X-Men related but even though Hugh and Liev were brilliant in it, everything else was disappointing because no effort was put into it. Comic book movies should be made special like their source material, not treated like a generic action movie
Gose
Gose - 8/24/2009, 3:31 PM
Steven spielberg + Tom Hanks = HBO watchmen
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/24/2009, 3:32 PM
Dancingmonkey @ exactly man exactly!!! ; )
DarthKyrat1
DarthKyrat1 - 8/24/2009, 3:35 PM
Hello guys I'm Anthony And I'm from Sault Ste Marie Ont which is 5hrs from Detriot Mi on the I-75.little information on the Sault for you guys
facts below

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steel when they had the old owners. The new owners are from India and serve a lot of indian food which my dad hates lol.



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facts about me

I am 19yrs old and single and fishing for honeys all the time but its not easy trust me

I am still in high school and working on getting my high school diploma.

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Now on to the subject of watchmen. I thought the movie was pretty good and enjoyed it was very faithful to novel which I consider in any movie essential to a movies success and box office numbers saldly watchmen did not deliver that 85 million domestically and making more world wide which I consider odd.

on the flip side I enjoyed all the actors and actress portyals of thier charatcers lots of gore nudity fighting this movie had it all. anyway I got to goy guys I'll be bak tommorow and lock forward to chatting with you guys tommorow.

and like general zod always says "Kneel before Zod" tony out







DarthKyrat1
DarthKyrat1 - 8/24/2009, 3:40 PM
whoops a little mistake in my paragraph where I was talking about the watchmen box office numbers. the box office numbers are as follows $185,248,060 (worldwide). 130 $ million dollar budget domestic gross 85 million which isn't that much for a big blockbuster movie "tony out,peace and love lol"!

LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/24/2009, 3:40 PM
L8r @ Darth!!!
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