AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. and CIVIL WAR Speculation

AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. and CIVIL WAR Speculation

Since we won't be getting any new Marvel until Agent Carter's January 6 premiere, we might as well do what we fanboys do best--speculate! Hit the jump for an interesting idea.

Editorial Opinion
By GliderMan - Dec 16, 2014 01:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

In case y'all haven't noticed... I've been doing some half-assed articles here lately. This one will be no different.

Look, I usually write rather long editorials, but being a senior in high school means I'm officially busy, with all kinds of shit to take care of. So I'm gonna present a small idea to you. 

With Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. starting to have more weight in the MCU given the recent introdcution of Inhumans and Terrigen Crystals (not to mention Hydra's looming threat), I'd say everything I'm about to say could be fair game. After all, the show beat Age of Ultron to the punch with Inhumans, there could be some very real interweaving going on, as irrelevant as you think the show might be.

While a lot of people have said that Bucky could be the starting factor over Iron Man and Captain America's brawl, another popular theory is that a battle similar to the comics will be what kicks it off, which would be shown primarily in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Personally, I think it'll be a combination, but stay with me. In the comics, the New Warriors got into a battle with some supervillains, killed 600 people, and the government decided that these superhumans need to [frick]ing register their identities.

But, it's been confrimed that secret identities are not the cause in this film, but rather who these superhumans report to. So theoretically, a superhero or group of superheroes acting on their own which leads to massive destruction would fit the bill for Captain America: Civil War.

So this happened recently.

Robbie Baldwin is Speedball. Fran Kranz could definitely fit that bill. Speedball was one of the New Warriors that kick-started the Superhuman Registration Act.

The supervillain that caused the explosion that killed so many people is Nitro. Nitro is definitely a small enough of a villain (or maybe unpopular enough of a villain?) to feature in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and I honestly think he could be a badass TV villain if done right.



Nitro's real name is Robert Hunter. There's a character on the show named Lance Hunter, who is actually Mockingbird's ex-husband. While some people don't like Lance, I love his character, and I want nothing but MORE of him on the show. Just my personal opinon.



So what's your god damn point, GliderMan?

Point is--I have no clue what the [frick] is gonna happen in Captain America: Civil War. Neither do you. But if it does get kickstarted on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., as is speculated, it'd be cool to see Robert vs. Lance brother/cousin/something dynamic. That's what I'm trying to say.

So what do you guys think? Let me hear your thoughts in the comment section below! 


 


 

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NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 12/16/2014, 2:38 PM
Nitro is also a Captain Marvel villain and with the introduction of the Kree, that adds even more weight to your theory.
sikwon
sikwon - 12/16/2014, 3:00 PM
I think you are dead on. Daisy Johnson isn't an accident, Inhumans isn't an accident and the Robbie Baldwin tweet sure as HELL isn't an accident. 1st half we got Mockingbird, this half we have quake and Speedball. I think once Marvel solidified their phase 3 slate they are going full steam ahead and AoS is the engine. It's going to keep laying groundwork and developing the MCU. I'm 100% with your theory or a version of it (cause your in the right neighborhood. )
COREY6487
COREY6487 - 12/16/2014, 3:04 PM
shield has proven that it has so much to give... marvel is clearly behind it so if the registration act starts because of an episode of shield then it would be another win for the show cause its a must watch to better understand the mcu
kong
kong - 12/16/2014, 3:10 PM
Good theory but I ultimately think Ultron will be the reason they start the registration act. Why? Well the final battle of AoU will probably be catastrophic, seeing as they have to top Avengers, and it's be a dick move to confuse the audience by making the cause of the registration act something the majority of them had never went'

But, I still could very well see this happening and wouldn't mad about it.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/16/2014, 4:51 PM
I think your right. Or close.

My theory is that Age of U ltron will cause the citizens and government to questions Superheroes. Considering Stark is the reason U ltron exists. This will be the first step.

Then, Baldwin will cause some type of catastrophe and it will be the last straw. This will happen on Agents of SHIELD.

This will cause the registration act and Iron Man will join the government. People have said that he won't join the gov't as he has been very anti-govt in the films, but I think he will have a ton of guilt with the destruction U ltron causes and he'll join the govt as a way to make things right.

@ gliderman

By the way, I love your editorials :)
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 12/16/2014, 4:53 PM
Very good thoughts. I at first was not fond of Hunter but he has grown on me, lol, she-devil cracks are so funny. I never once considered he could be the MCU Nitro, really good theory there.


I am sure your senior year is very hectic, just remember to take a moment to enjoy your final year in high school. We are always in such a rush to begin our futures sometimes we forget that there is no place like now.

Great article, and I wish you the best on thia monumental year.

I am Groot.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 12/16/2014, 5:50 PM
Fantastic theory Glider. I love it. I'm really hoping that speedball and the new warriors play a part of both the civil war story and Agents of SHIELD. [frick], March is too far away...
MrJedabak
MrJedabak - 12/16/2014, 6:09 PM
Senior in high school?

Just wait until you start college.

Nice write up.
sikwon
sikwon - 12/16/2014, 7:34 PM
Stark isn't anti government! In Iron Man one who is he selling weapons to? The government. What's his best friend do for a living? Air Force. He rebuilt the Helicarrier repulse for Cap 2. He ISN'T anti goverment. He thinks he can do their job better. He's a narcisist. Rewatch the beginning of IM2 when he is before congress. Every one completely misses that about his character. Again, the Brite lights... Marvel has added layer and depth to these people, it's not as simple as Tony being anti government. All the reasons that make him and Cap square off are all the reasons Shield initially rejected him from the Avengers initiative. IM3 didn't change that. If anything it strengths his resolve. I mean that's why he gets involved in creating the Ultron in the 1st place. Never forget Tony father believed that "the best weapon is one you only had to fire once. That's how dad did it, that's how America does it and it's worked out pretty good so far." That is an essential character defining line by Stark.
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 12/16/2014, 7:53 PM
I think Skye causes the overkill that kickstarts the SRA.
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 12/16/2014, 7:53 PM
Or Raina.
furrepanther
furrepanther - 12/16/2014, 9:43 PM
Fran Kranz is a Joss Whedon favorite actor, so I lend 1000% weight to the tweet.

I can see a conflict between Quake and Speedball causing the disaster, possibly because Quake has problems controlling her ability because of strong emotions, or because she simply did the best she could and it didn't work out at all well.

Skye/Daisy/Quake is a complex character with a lot of emotional damage, after all: her father's a murderer, her mother was viciously murdered by Hydra, she might even feel at some level that she herself is responsible for the deaths of the villagers in China (simply because the situation was centered on her). All of that pain and guilt ... that's sitting in the background and then what happens if Speedball causes the death of someone she loves, or threatens that person? Would she respond with overkill if she believed the seriousness of the threat? Quite possibly ...

I'm with you, Hoss. I think you probably have the right of it here, with the possible exception of the idea above. That could work.
furrepanther
furrepanther - 12/16/2014, 9:44 PM
Oh. I'm sorry, Phil, but Fury took your cards. Take it up with him.
Minty
Minty - 12/17/2014, 3:32 AM
I like it G-Man. Anything that gives more power to AOS is good with me. That show has come on leaps and bounds since it started to make a difference in the wider MCU.
captain74
captain74 - 12/17/2014, 7:24 AM
I would love if Robbie Baldwin on Shield would somehow result in a New Warriors series. They could develop Dwayne Taylor/Night Thrasher on the Netflix series as a secondary character and bring in Nova somehow to eventually soon him into the cosmic universe. Make Justice and Firestar Inhumans. Namorita is tricky but they could use her to build up the coming of Namor in Phase 4 or 5.
captain74
captain74 - 12/17/2014, 7:26 AM
*spin
ZeoTV
ZeoTV - 12/17/2014, 9:39 AM
isnt nitro a mutant
TheBeard
TheBeard - 12/17/2014, 11:31 AM
he got his powers from the Kree
TheBeard
TheBeard - 12/17/2014, 11:33 AM
*doing genetic experiments on him
JvIce
JvIce - 12/17/2014, 2:32 PM
The AOS team will have the New Warriors role in Civil War.
Trickwil
Trickwil - 12/17/2014, 2:38 PM
I know Baldwin will have something to do with Civil War, I think Ultron will be the main issue but that a fight between Speedball and Nitro could be involved too. I think combining that with the current worry about shootings and gun control could be an interesting take on it.
EggsBenedict
EggsBenedict - 12/17/2014, 5:57 PM
What about an inhumans connection? Perhaps the civil war is over trying to find and identify inhumans/"miracles", kind of like a mutant registration act.
Baka
Baka - 12/18/2014, 2:30 AM
You've got some very good ideas @gliderman they're very similiar to what I thought they could do in that on shield which is at the bottom level they can introduce speedball build him and have him make the new warriors by the end of S2 of during S3 and then by the S3 midseason boom the explosion goes off and civil war opens with news snippets about trust in heroes being at an all time low because of ultron and the senate are grilling the co-leaders of the avengers about what happena in AoU and about the people with powers becoming a thing i.e quicksilver/SW and the many inhumans on SHIELD and then they can say that the school incident was the final straw which horrifies tony when he hears about it and the whole senate falls silent for 30 seconds and then from there you go all civil war i.e bucky the assasin, reporting to the government if you're gifted etc. and by the time the other half of SHIELD comes back they have some big changes and conflicts within the team.
For Civil War I just really hope that they dont make the same miatake of the comic where the execution was all over the place and it turned everyone into morons and villains for the sake of the event i really hope they can make both sides as valid as they possibely can.
@OmegaDaGod that would be awesome
homodrome
homodrome - 12/19/2014, 9:42 AM
If we can manage to get Agents of SHIELD's ratings to stay the same for the second half of the season, we'll get a third season. Once a show has a third season it almost invariably gets a 4th season so it can make money on syndication.

If we get 4 seasons of this show, it would take us up to Thor: Ragnarok. If we manage to get FIVE seasons? They would tie into the first half of Infinity War!

This should really could end up being the main line of the MCU. I mean, it is pretty much just Secret Warriors: The Series with major overhauls for the MCU and TV. The thing is, for this to have much of an effect, if any is for this show to get a 3rd season. Otherwise there won't be any Civil War cross over. And frankly, how can you NOT cross it over? It would be epic!
homodrome
homodrome - 12/19/2014, 9:42 AM
Also great article!
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