DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Episodes 2 And 3 Were Originally Intended To Be The Show's Pilot

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Episodes 2 And 3 Were Originally Intended To Be The Show's Pilot

We knew a lot of changes were made when Daredevil: Born Again underwent a significant creative overhaul, but it seems the events of the entire first episode were not originally going to be depicted at all.

By MarkCassidy - Mar 11, 2025 04:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Though there have been conflicting reports on exactly how different Daredevil: Born Again would have been prior to the major creative overhaul (if Rob Liefeld is to be believed, it was a full-on comedy), we know that some big changes were made to bring the Disney+ series more in line with the original Netflix Daredevil show.

Stars Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio have indicated that they played a part in convincing Marvel Television that making a fourth season (for all intents and purposes) was the right move, and Michael Cuesta - who directed episodes 2 and 3 as well as the original pilot - has now shared some intriguing new details.

Apparently, episodes 2 and 3 were the original pilot.

Cuesta's full interview with Phase Hero doesn't go live until after tonight's episode, but this would obviously suggest that the events of the first episode of Born Again - Foggy's death, that Bullseye fight sequence, the sit-down between Murdock and Fisk - were not going to be depicted. This also lines up with previous reports that Foggy's demise originally happened off-screen.

This will make more sense after you see tonight's instalment, "The Hollow of his Hand," but we can see how episodes 2 and 3 could work as the pilot - as hard as it is to imagine completely losing that intense, action-packed series premiere.

In Marvel Television's Daredevil: Born Again, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox), a blind lawyer with heightened abilities is fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, while former mob boss Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) pursues his own political endeavors in New York. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course.

The show also stars Margarita Levieva, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Zabryna Guevara, Nikki James, Genneya Walton, Arty Froushan, Clark Johnson, Michael Gandolfini, with Ayelet Zurer and Jon Bernthal. Dario Scardapane is on board as showrunner.

Episodes are directed by Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead, Michael Cuesta, Jeffrey Nachmanoff, and David Boyd; and executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Sana Amanat, Chris Gary, Dario Scardapane, Christopher Ord & Matthew Corman, and Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead.

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/11/2025, 4:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/Uqu3MInxklg?si=o_mOVtnqskrh4Gb8

Starting at 12 mins 15 seconds, Harloff and crew discuss how Wilding hates DC and writes articles accordingly and how Mark Cassidy is the level headed one. Really fun stuff lol
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/11/2025, 5:35 PM
@McMurdo -

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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/11/2025, 5:36 PM
@McMurdo -

Lefty activists gonna lefty activist.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/11/2025, 5:52 PM
@McMurdo - User Comment Image
Ironnick
Ironnick - 3/11/2025, 6:05 PM
@McMurdo - Hell, I kinda think it’s just Josh, because I’ve seen him frame so many DC and Marvel articles in a needlessly negative way.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 3/11/2025, 6:38 PM
@McMurdo - Who even is that lol
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/12/2025, 2:42 AM
@UncleHarm1 - Kristian Harloff. Used to be with Collider. Used to do a lot with Campea. Now does his own thing.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/11/2025, 5:01 PM
shit pilot
Latverian
Latverian - 3/11/2025, 7:27 PM
@ObserverIO - That you, grif?
stephhurry
stephhurry - 3/11/2025, 5:14 PM
Josh Wilding is a disgrace to journalism
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 5:15 PM
It’s likely they have made some alterations to ep 2 since idk if I could see it as a pilot as it is now given it plops you right into the middle of the story without much background or context then…

I’m glad we had the new pilot since it gives that aswell as re-establishing the characters & their new status quo which I appreciated it.

Plus , not having the diner scene which is my favorite one so far would be a crime.

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Also regardless of how one feels about the decision , I think we can all agree (hopefully lol) that killing Foggy on screen instead of off as apparently originally intended is better since it’s just more impactful.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 5:43 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I could swear that I heard a while ago that while they were using most of what had been shot for episodes two through eight that they had added some to the episodes or at least some of the episodes as opposed to it being exactly how it was intended to be before the changes were made. I haven’t seen anything that references that lately. Yes, the diner scene was great. Somebody else here liked it to the diner scene in the movie Heat which I think is a good comparison. I will say that I thought episode two was good so perhaps if it had been done with the original crew it still would’ve been a good series, it just wouldn’t reference things from Netflix Daredevil which was a mistake. One of the other complaints obviously was that it took several episodes before he was Daredevil or in costume at least. I wonder if we’ll see more of him in costume before the final episode. I presume so, and that would also seem to point to them having added material to the shows that were done by the old team
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 6:37 PM
@RolandD - the showrunner has said that they had shot 6 episodes before the overhaul so he wrote 3 new ones while also writing episodes & shooting material for the already shot episodes to make the narrative feel cohesive overall.

Yeah, the original report that informed of the overhaul said that Matt wouldn’t suit up as DD again till ep 4 which could still be the case so we’ll see.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/11/2025, 7:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - As one of the 'new' episodes was the first, wouldn't be surprised of we don't see the Devil in red again till ep 5. That does not need to be an issue however if still enough action, including Matt kicking butt whilst in lawyer atire like we had in ep 2. ALWAYS cool to see him suited up but building anticipation for when the gloves come off and returns to being full vigilante again CAN work better than rushing into it too soon. In the meantime we may see more of Punisher and White Tiger suited up in action instead whilst Murdock deals with the legal and political stuff more.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 7:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Thanks. That is consistent with what I originally thought. Third episode hits tonight.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 7:20 PM
@Apophis71 - you are right about it being ep 5 now it seems so yeah , halfway through makes sense

Plus I think ep 5 & 6 come out the same day so I could see Matt suiting up as DD at the end of 5 leading into 6 , perhaps to take on Muse who takes Heather?.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 3/11/2025, 5:25 PM
Even though Daredevil Born Again is good, Disney has done so much damage to their reputation with garbage that less people watched this show than The Acolshite and Agatha No One Cares and Captain Falcon.

We're on the wrong side of the bell curve now. People don't trust Disney to make good content any more. It sucks that when they accidentally do, it's getting thrown out with the bath water.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/11/2025, 5:36 PM
@HistoryofMatt -

👏
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/11/2025, 6:02 PM
@HistoryofMatt - "Agatha No One Cares" try again.

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RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 7:01 PM
@NinnesMBC - LOLOLOLOL. I really liked it by the way.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 8:57 PM
@HistoryofMatt - this is like comparing the viewership of an R rated movie with a PG-13 rated movie. The viewer ship is going to be less because of that.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 8:58 PM
@HistoryofMatt - this is like comparing the viewership of an R rated movie to a PG-13 rated movie. The viewer ship is going to be less because of that.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 3/11/2025, 8:59 PM
@NinnesMBC - Homey, it didn't even place on the streaming version of the Nielsens for most of its run. NO ONE CARES.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 8:59 PM
@HistoryofMatt - This is like comparing the viewership of an R rated movie versus a PG13 rated movie. The viewership is going to be less because of that.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 3/11/2025, 9:05 PM
@RolandD - If you say so.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2025, 10:15 PM
@HistoryofMatt - User Comment Image
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 3/11/2025, 10:28 PM
@RolandD - I didn't pick up on that, given that 19 times you said it. 😂
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/11/2025, 11:37 PM
@HistoryofMatt - So why did they care to award it over other Superhero shows? 🤔
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/11/2025, 11:38 PM
@RolandD - I was surprised to find myself that immersed by it. Probably because the lives of the characters were actually at stake and stayed like that. A good surprise of a show.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 3/11/2025, 11:45 PM
@NinnesMBC - Yes, because award shows are on the level and not compromised by the ridiculous prevailing ideology in the business. 🙄
RolandD
RolandD - 3/12/2025, 12:41 AM
@NinnesMBC - I didn’t expect it to be as good as it was but unlike other people on this site, I was interested and willing to give it a chance.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/11/2025, 7:14 PM
Shit another wasted episode without Daredevil in costume

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