DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Is The "Most Violent Thing [Marvel] Put On Screen"; Updates On WONDER MAN, NOVA, & More

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Is The "Most Violent Thing [Marvel] Put On Screen"; Updates On WONDER MAN, NOVA, & More

In a new interview, Marvel Studios' Head of TV, Streaming, and Animation, Brad Winderbaum, shared some updates on Daredevil: Born Again and several other upcoming Disney+ projects...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 14, 2024 11:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Previous reports have indicated that Daredevil: Born Again would not shy away from depicting visceral on-screen violence, but a lot of fans remain unconvinced - especially after the relatively tame Echo, which boasted Marvel Studios' first ever TV-MA rating.

Whether Born Again will be able to come close to the sheer brutality of the original Netflix series remains to be seen, but Marvel Studios' Head of TV, Streaming, and Animation, Brad Winderbaum, has once again suggested that the show will not hold anything back.

“It all comes at a cost," he told the Phase Hero podcast when asked about the level of violence in the series. "It is one of the most violent things we’ve put on screen, but it’s in service of a greater tragedy that is really compelling.”

“I’m so excited for that show. I actually don’t think the audience is ready for this show," he added. "It goes really deep into these characters. I loved the original show, and that cast is unbelievable. I remember having conversations with Kevin when the original series was cast. If we were making a movie about Daredevil, that would be the cast.”

Winderbaum also confirmed that we will be seeing more of the Man Without Fear (Charlie Cox) in the MCU after Born Again (no big surprise there), and he anticipates the show continuing for "multiple seasons." He adds that there are "100%" future plans in place for Jon Bernthal's Frank Castle, aka the Punisher.

The Marvel exec also shared updates on several other upcoming Disney+ projects, including Wonder Man, which he believes will run for 8 episodes and not the previously reported 10.

“It’s a two-hander between two amazing characters, this odd couple of Simon Williams and Trevor Slattery and you get a little bit of glimpse of that in the trailer,” explained Winderbaum. “I don’t want to go too much into the story details. It’s very fun to see people speculating about what they think the plot is. That is part of the fun of it.”

“If you’re a fan of the West Coast Avengers, you know a little bit about Simon Williams… you’re going to be very excited to see how much homage to the source material there is actually in the show,” he added.

As for the long-awaited Nova series, Winderbaum stayed tight-lipped about the plot, but did promise a "unique" tone.

“There’s a lot to be excited about. What I’ve seen so far is extremely promising. I’ll say that. Especially like tonally. The vibe of that show is very unique and very cool.”

Be sure to watch the full interview below, as Winderbaum also discusses Ironheart, Agatha All Along, and what's going on in the animated corner of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 11/14/2024, 11:31 AM
We heard that before back in 2022 with Moon Knight and it wasn't anywhere that ugly brutal.

Just deliver cool acrobatic and exciting nail-bitting fights with good choreography and most importantly a good story behind it and the fans will eat it up.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 11/14/2024, 12:42 PM
@NinnesMBC - yup.

The brutality is not important. The visually stunning action combined with good story is all they need to be looking at.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2024, 8:29 PM
@NinnesMBC @SummersEssex - You are both right.
Vigor
Vigor - 11/14/2024, 11:32 AM
Exciting
He certainly divulges more color than Feige haha
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/14/2024, 11:46 AM
@Vigor - Yeah he hasn't quite got Feige's talent in that respect. Or... any other respect.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 11/14/2024, 11:32 AM
Can AI summarize these articles I'm too lazy to read
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/14/2024, 11:47 AM
@0bstreperous - Yeah he said "Fans like the old show. I like the old show too. This is like the old show. Come and watch our show."
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/14/2024, 11:41 AM

General audiences ask... Wonderman Nova Who???

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/14/2024, 11:48 AM
@DocSpock - Who?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/14/2024, 11:48 AM
Doh!
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/14/2024, 11:50 AM
Hopefully when it comes, Nova will do the opposite of Lanterns. Don't waste the most popular version to skip straight to the successor and have it actually be off-world.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 11/14/2024, 11:50 AM
They’re a bunch of swindlers, Daredevil was only good because of the Netflix team. U telling me Warner Bros got more respect for characters putting Ferrel in a fat suit but the mf Kingpin of all ppl cant be big
Vigor
Vigor - 11/14/2024, 12:14 PM
@Matchesz - how you gonna say that. We literally got a pich perfect hulk in avengers 1 that cost a fortune to render.

Daredevil was perfected in she hulk
More comic accurate spiderman in homecoming than any version before

Iron man that's iconic. You serious?
Matchesz
Matchesz - 11/14/2024, 12:28 PM
@Vigor - ur best defense is phase 1 stuff and homecoming spidey too reliant on Tony so most comic accurate goes to Tobey
Vigor
Vigor - 11/14/2024, 12:51 PM
@Matchesz - ok

She hulk, moon knight, Shang chi, were all very accurate. I picked phase 1 stuff because it was whar put mcu on the board. The reason it put mcu on the board? It's because they respected the source material unlike foxmen or Sony ever did
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/14/2024, 11:55 AM
Violents is secondary, story and character is whats most important to get right.
Pampero
Pampero - 11/14/2024, 11:55 AM
I never finished watching season 3; I need to catch up.
Spoken
Spoken - 11/14/2024, 12:23 PM
@Pampero - Way better than Season 2, but I will say not as good as Season 1. That was the crown jewel right there for Marvel Netflix.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/14/2024, 12:29 PM
@Spoken - For me that and season one of JJ, just the rest of her seasons were not as good as even season two of DD.
Spoken
Spoken - 11/14/2024, 1:00 PM
@Apophis71 - Same. Luke Cage had a boring first half, Iron Fist was lame. Defenders was awful as well.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2024, 8:32 PM
@Spoken - I was with you until you said Luke Cage first half was boring. I’d say the first half was better and the second half was a letdown, although not terrible. Cottonmouth was a more compelling villain.
Spoken
Spoken - 11/14/2024, 10:32 PM
@RolandD - Yeah that’s right I totally forgot they killed Cottonmouth. Was very disappointed they did that. I don’t know, I just felt like the first half didn’t do it for me that much.

Aside from the “coffee” jokes (which I think was a subtext to the hot coffee mod from GTA) some character moments, I just didn’t care as much as I thought I would.

Unfortunately I did not watch Season 2 yet, same with the Jessica Jones and Punisher. I only finished Daredevil all the way through.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/15/2024, 1:26 AM
@Spoken - I finished them all although I had to practically force myself through season two of Jessica Jones because I wanted to watch season three which was better than season two. The first season was the best. I think Frank works best as a side character like in DD season two, although I enjoyed the dynamic between Frank and Micro. even when the stories were not so good with some of these shows, I did like the character dynamics much of the time, even though Danny started out very annoying, which they even riffed on in The Defenders, so I definitely think that you are on to something with “character moments.”
SATW42
SATW42 - 11/14/2024, 12:00 PM
"I’m so excited for that show. I actually don’t think the audience is ready for this show"

Like, see, this is what I'm talking about in the Rock article. How is this hyperbole any different from the Rock's "game over" comments?
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/14/2024, 12:03 PM
More violent than Deadpool And Wolverine.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 11/14/2024, 12:05 PM
The Batman Crime Saga Universe just got major Hype after The Penguin

Hopefully Daredevil Born Again will do that for the MCU moving forward
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 11/14/2024, 12:06 PM
More Violent than a dude in yellow pajamas repeatedly stabbing a dude in red pajamas multiple times in a mini van?
thebamf
thebamf - 11/14/2024, 12:42 PM
@slickrickdesigns - It was a Honda Odyssey.... show some respect LOL
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 11/14/2024, 12:46 PM
@thebamf - lol… it totally f**ks
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2024, 10:05 PM
@thebamf - Perfect reply!
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 11/14/2024, 12:21 PM
I would think the violent part has more to do with the bad guys and what they do, rather than his fights. If it was his fighting I think he would have said, "just as, or more than the Netflix show." Saying it is YA'LLS most violent thing isn't much.
But on a positive note, it seems pretty confirmed we getting a NOVA series....COOL!!
RedFury
RedFury - 11/14/2024, 12:48 PM
@LogansRazor - I'd have to agree with you. I'm sure what he's saying - he's saying with broad strokes. It's probably just the most tonally violent thing they've done. Deadpool is clearly the most violent thing the MCU has done to date, and I highly doubt Daredevil will top the comical level of violence we got in DP&W.
Gambito
Gambito - 11/14/2024, 12:38 PM
Honestly Jon Bernthal is a big enough name to add to a Spiderman 4 or Cap 5 time for punisher to get some love
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 11/14/2024, 12:54 PM

"The version of New York is extremely intricate, a palace intrigue show
I compare it to Game of Thrones with multiple factions vying for power in really complex ways"

Music to my ears
JayLemle
JayLemle - 11/14/2024, 1:01 PM
I'm satisfied that Marvel Studios is venturing into the "violence" and Rated-R territory. However, they've been touting this "violence" thing since Echo. Let's not let that overshadow a good plot, Marvel.

I can't remember, nor do I have D+ to verify. Did they say the F-word in the Netflix series?
LSHF
LSHF - 11/14/2024, 3:26 PM
@JayLemle - I've seen all of the Netflix Marvel shows at least once, but mostly twice, and I can't remember if the F word was used.

It's such a common word, I probably wouldn't have noticed.

I don't even know what all constitutes an (R) rating anymore, as it changes over the years.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2024, 8:33 PM
@LSHF - No F word in the Netflix series.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2024, 10:09 PM
@LSHF - A couple of years ago I heard that you could have one F word in a PG-13 movie like they did in GotG Vol 3. I also heard that in BvS the directors cut, they were allowed to show blood from gunshots and I think the warehouse scene, but they couldn’t show that in the PG-13 version.
LSHF
LSHF - 11/15/2024, 1:13 AM
@RolandD - Thank you.

That's surprising, I haven't paid attention to ratings before I see movies in decades, and I unfortunately assumed the ratings would get more laxed as time passed, not more strict.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 11/14/2024, 1:02 PM
Don't want an homage to the source material, but an accurate adaptation, cheers and thank you kindly. Otherwise there is NO point.
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