ECHO Storyboards And Leaked Details Reveal Scrapped Subplots And Plans For Comic-Accurate Powers

ECHO Storyboards And Leaked Details Reveal Scrapped Subplots And Plans For Comic-Accurate Powers

More details about Marvel Studios' original plans for Echo have been revealed, including the fact Maya Lopez's powers were once set to emerge much differently. We also have intel on changes to the story.

By JoshWilding - Jan 18, 2024 06:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo

By now, we're sure you're all too aware that Marvel Studios made some significant changes to Echo during post-production. The series was reshaped, likely because the previous version wasn't working, and a 73% Rotten Tomatoes score suggests it was the right decision (mostly). 

Scooper @CanWeGetToast has shared more details about the scenes cut from the Disney+ series, including a greater focus on New York City's criminal gangs and The Kingpin's successor, Irina (possibly a new take on Iron Man villain Irina Tarasova). 

There was also a subplot about Biscuit's missing dog and a greater focus on Maya Lopez's relationship with her cousin Bonnie. 

As expected, those flashbacks to the title character's Choctaw ancestors would have been scattered throughout the series - rather than used as lengthy cold openings - and Maya's powers were set to emerge gradually rather than all at once in the finale. 

That's confirmed by both this leak and some storyboards shared by Ed Laroche. In those, we learn Maya would have sported various face tattoos throughout the series (there's still no sign of her comic book handprint for some reason) and gained powers which would allow her to foresee her opponent's moves.

This lines up with the source material where Echo has Taskmaster-like reflexes. 

Echo was originally going to end with Maya returning to New York, setting the stage for her to play a role in Daredevil: Born Again. Instead, she's reunited with her family, effectively ending her story in the MCU unless Marvel Studios chooses to bring her back elsewhere. 

All of Echo's cut plot points (by CWGST)
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The five-episode streaming event spotlights Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) as she is pursued by Wilson Fisk's (Vincent D'Onofrio) criminal empire. When the journey brings her home, she must confront her own family and legacy.

Echo also stars Chaske Spencer (Wild IndianThe English), Graham Greene (1883Goliath), Tantoo Cardinal (Killers of the Flower MoonStumptown), Devery Jacobs (FX's Reservation DogsAmerican Gods), Zahn McClarnon (Dark Winds, FX's Reservation Dogs), Cody Lightning (Hey, Viktor!Four Sheets to the Wind) and Vincent D’Onofrio (HawkeyeGodfather of Harlem).

The series is directed by Sydney Freeland (Navajo) and Catriona McKenzie (Gunaikurnai).

All five episodes of Echo are now streaming on Disney+ and Hulu.

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Origame
Origame - 1/18/2024, 6:19 AM
Sigh. Remember when the mcu was praised for being comic accurate? Even down to loki being the first avengers villain and mind controlling the hulk?

Now they aren't even trying.
Kurban
Kurban - 1/18/2024, 6:21 AM
@Origame - lol Those days are long, long gone.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/18/2024, 6:47 AM
On paper like the original ideas but can understand why they were not working as feels like the sort of thing that would require a LOT more episodes and likely each of greater length to do all of that well. Think the simpler storyline was a better way to go and if set out to be thus from the start, rather than later rehashing, decent chance most the issues the show ended up having would have been avoided.

Anyway, end result was far from perfect but liked almost all of the characters, think almost all the cast did well with what they were given and although if Echo returns more clarity is needed on what/how of her powers think it ultimately set things up well enough for Born again and give the series a 7/10 could do much better rating.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/18/2024, 7:25 AM



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windows75
windows75 - 1/18/2024, 9:01 AM
If Marvel (MCU) [frick]s up my beloved X-men for not trying to get comic accurate looks and powers I'm done with them.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/18/2024, 11:02 AM
@windows75 -

Deadpool 3
Fantastic Four
X-Men

If they f*ck up these, the MCU will be over.
windows75
windows75 - 1/18/2024, 11:22 AM
@marvel72 - Agreed. Can't stand Deadpool as a character so I destroy away
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/18/2024, 11:32 AM
@windows75 -

I like the character and I like both movies, so I want this to be good but how Disney Marvel are handling things I can't see anything being good with their future products.
windows75
windows75 - 1/18/2024, 11:34 AM
@marvel72 - Yeah hopefully they are like the first 2
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/18/2024, 9:59 PM
@marvel72 - I can't stand people who trash DP2 as if it isn't better than the majority of the MCU stuff they jerk off too. It's not Dp1 but it's still a good ass movie.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 1/18/2024, 9:28 AM
Sounds like it would have been a much better show actually...
dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/18/2024, 9:38 AM
A lot of this sounds interesting, sympathetic and gritty. I wonder who decided to cut it. Feige?
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/18/2024, 10:31 AM
I never understand why writers feel the need to tweak things
KelvTwelve
KelvTwelve - 1/18/2024, 10:48 AM
Sometimes I wonder what Feige deems "unreleasable."
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/18/2024, 11:03 AM
@KelvTwelve - I want to see the unreleasable cut of Echo because it seems to me that Disney Marvel gave up with before it even aired.
KelvTwelve
KelvTwelve - 1/18/2024, 11:13 AM
@marvel72 - It really makes me question whether Feige saw something that wasn't the typical Marvel formula and thought it would be alienating to audiences, or whether we're just supposed to think the show's creative team was completely unable to create a cohesive show.

It's no secret that Feige has pulled back as he's gotten more control, and film executives are battling to fill that void and treating the shows as if they're movies. But this feels like one of those occassions where there was a lot of passion from the creative team for the project, and the original intent got pulled away from them, but we'll never know whether Feige was right to cut up this show to pieces.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/18/2024, 10:00 PM
@marvel72 - this sounded leagues better.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/18/2024, 11:06 AM
Echo was ok. I really didn’t know much about the character going into watching Hawkeye or Echo so I didn’t know what her actual powers were.
I wish they would’ve made Kingpin a bigger part of the show as he’s the main reason I watched it and also because they baited me with cameo of DareDevil, in which I also would’ve liked to see Matt Murdock a little more too. But oh well. Now we wait 5 years for the DareDevil series. Let’s hope they don’t cancel that too. I would really like to see DD and Punisher way more than Agatha and Iron heart.

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