HAWKEYE: Could Laura Barton Be Revealed As The MCU's Take On Mockingbird? SPOILERS

HAWKEYE: Could Laura Barton Be Revealed As The MCU's Take On Mockingbird? SPOILERS

This week's episode of Hawkeye made it clear that there's more to Laura Barton (Linda Cardellini) than meets the eye, & one theory doing the rounds is suggesting that she might turn out to be Mockingbird.

By MarkCassidy - Dec 09, 2021 10:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Hawkeye

This Wednesday's episode of Marvel's Hawkeye was notable for a brief appearance from Black Widow star Florence Pugh as Yelena Belova, but "Partners, Am I Right?" also revealed a few surprising things about Laura Barton.

Played by Linda Cardellini (Freaks and Geeks, Scooby Doo), Clint Barton's wife was introduced in Avengers: Age of Ultron, and has made several appearances in The MCU since. The character is usually depicted as the understanding, stay-home partner of an Avenger, but her more active role in the Disney+ series has led to some interesting theories.

Laura clearly knows about Clint's murderous rampage as Ronin, and seems to be more clued in to his general superhero activities than we realized. At one point during the latest episode, Hawkeye calls her to ask for help digging into Jack Duquesne's past, and she responds in German. Laura then asks her husband about a certain Rolex watch that was stolen during the black market auction raid. Later in the episode, Clint tells Kate to keep an eye out for this watch because it could lead to someone he used to work with who's "not in the game" anymore's identity being exposed.

Could that someone turn out to be his wife? If so, there's a good chance Laura Barton will be revealed as The MCU's take on Mockingbird.

In the comics, Hawkeye and Mockingbird were married (briefly) after serving together S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents and West Coast Avengers. That character was named Barbara "Bobbi" Morse (played by Adrianne Palicki on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.), but it's become increasingly clear that the Marvel Television shows are no longer canon, so this would only be a minor change.

This is pure speculation, of course, but even if Laura doesn't turn out to be Mockingbird, there's definitely more to the character than meets the eye! What do you guys think? Be sure to share your own theories in the usual place.

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GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/9/2021, 10:55 AM
I feel like it’s someone else. But blending Laura and Mockingbird into one character wouldn’t necessarily be bad.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/9/2021, 10:55 AM
In the words of Tony Stark, she's definitely an agent of some kind.

Anyway, why would her watch be at the Avengers compound though? Kinda thought the ''it would blow their cover'' line referred to the Tracksuit Mafia (as in, who they're working for)
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/9/2021, 11:20 AM
@bkmeijer - that's interesting. Maybe Clint knows of someone who is close to Fisk
LSHF
LSHF - 12/9/2021, 10:59 AM
@TomK725 - I kept thinking that she should know what her kids want on their hot dogs at that point in their lives. And who the f#ck uses mayo on their hot dogs?

But, maybe they change it up now and then and, maybe, people actually "do" use mayo on their hot dogs. Hell, I love pineapple on my pepperoni pizza!
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 12/9/2021, 11:28 AM
@LSHF - Pineapple on pizza?!
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 12/9/2021, 11:46 AM
@Waddles - 🤢

PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 12/9/2021, 10:56 AM


It's finally happening
SpaceAgent
SpaceAgent - 12/9/2021, 11:09 AM
@PapaSpank54 - What am I looking at? Please explain..

Razorface1
Razorface1 - 12/9/2021, 11:22 AM
@SpaceAgent - Oh boy, this takes me back. When Avengers came out, there were a lot of people who were totally convinced Coulson would be brought back to life as Vision. They had a lot of evidence that this would happen, most (if not all) of it completely made up.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 12/9/2021, 5:13 PM
@PapaSpank54 - ahh those were the days
LSHF
LSHF - 12/9/2021, 10:57 AM
"Could Laura Barton Be Revealed As The MCU's Take On Mockingbird?"

I don't know.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 12/9/2021, 1:43 PM
@Waddles -
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 12/9/2021, 10:57 AM
I wouldn’t mind that… I figured she was an ex-shield agent anyway and her being an actual hero from the comics would make her cooler than she already is.
clornelas
clornelas - 12/9/2021, 10:57 AM
This would piss off fans of moleface, but I could get on board with it. Could even be linked to the Mockingbird show (Marvel's Most Wanted i think?) getting shut down a few years back if they knew this was in the works, although that might be a stretch.
SpaceAgent
SpaceAgent - 12/9/2021, 11:03 AM
@clornelas - "moleface"

theprophet
theprophet - 12/9/2021, 11:00 AM
Did this really need am article?? When Josh already posted it in one of pointless article...damn ror I expected better
Menks123
Menks123 - 12/9/2021, 11:04 AM

I am 100% down for this theory. Would be really cool and make a lot of sense, especially after this latest episode.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 12/9/2021, 11:09 AM
'but it's become increasingly clear that the Marvel Television shows are no longer canon'

It's odd to say this the week it was made clear Daredevil and Kingpin would be back as well as potentially the other Netflix actors.

MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/9/2021, 11:13 AM
@Nightwing1015 - Same actors, same characters, but I guarantee they won't be referencing anything that happened on those shows.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 12/9/2021, 11:21 AM
@RorMachine - People guarantee loads of stuff but no one really knows except the people actually working on it.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/9/2021, 11:23 AM
@Nightwing1015 - with Loki introducing variants, I'm pretty sure that everything from Marvel Television is all considered variant stories.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/9/2021, 11:35 AM
@YonnyLayna - it’s been made clear for years MCU shows outside of agent carter and the Disney+ is non canon move on
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 12/9/2021, 11:58 AM
@Nightwing1015 - That Matt Murdock is a variant of the Netflix one

Marvel Studios will take what worked from those shows and ignore or replace what didn't

You can argue that those shows/events happened in the multiverse, but they didn't in the main timeline. Which is why even to this day, shows like AoS, Runaways and Inhumans are still labeled "Marvel Legacy" on Disney Plus, along with the Fox-men properties

sickboy76
sickboy76 - 12/9/2021, 12:09 PM
@YonnyLayna - yeah just like that idiot who was adamant that nijne from the Netflix xhows would ever end up in mcu.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 12/9/2021, 12:40 PM
@RorMachine - "Same actors, same characters, but I guarantee they won't be referencing anything that happened on those shows."

The actors are inherently a reference to what happened on those shows. A story doesn't have to be referenced explicitly to be canon. Things are often streamlined for accessibility, but that doesn't inherently imply contradiction or erasure.

I don't expect Matt to recount the 3 seasons of Daredevil in detail, but a vague, simple allusion to his past conflicts with Fisk is enough for fans of the show to see these new stories as a continuation while not forcing people to watch the older stories to follow the new ones.

If it is not explicitly explained in-story or stated by Marvel Studios that these are new versions (variants) of the Matt and Fisk we've seen, it makes more sense than not to view them as the same characters.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 12/9/2021, 12:49 PM
@BIGBMH - Yea I'm at a point where I don't understand how we're still doing the "definitely not canon" thing for shows that have had their lead actors pop up playing the same characters in new MCU stuff. Obviously the people running Marvel can retcon whatever they want in either direction (add vs remove), but until someone at the Feige/Ex Production level speaks definitely to things (or the movies/shows themselves explicitly say otherwise) I don't see how someone views those shows as non-canon.

It's not like the actual MCU movies haven't reused actors/actresses for different roles or contradicted their own timeline and events (Homecoming's first 10 minutes being the most obvious example)
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 12/9/2021, 1:07 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Exactly! We've seen them recast (Banner, Rhodey). We've seen them reuse actors within the same continuity (Gemma Chan) We've seen them essentially "re-tone" a character in the case of Thor.

If we can accept appearance changes, doppelgängers, and shifts in personality, I think it's silly to cry "non-canon" and "variant" if Charlie Cox's Daredevil is presented a bit differently and doesn't explicitly reference everything we've seen happen to him.

It is entirely possible that we will get some sort of retcon or declaration that the shows are alternate canon, and I can admit that. However, it feels like people of the opposing view have committed themselves so fully to this idea that even as evidence seems to suggest the contrary, they are unwilling to say "Oh, maybe I was wrong. Let's wait and see what happens."
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 12/9/2021, 1:14 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - "but until someone at the Feige/Ex Production level speaks definitely to things"

Well they've been saying it for sure, it's whether you'd actually listen, that's in question...

"We’ve already started shooting two of them [shows] and they’re very, very special. And it all, for the first time, will interlink. So, the MCU will be on your TV screen at home on Disney+ and interconnect with the movies and go back and forth" -Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios and founder of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/wandavision/kevin-feige-says-marvels-disney-shows-will-be-the-first-time-tv-shows-have-tied-into-the-mcu-a172169#gs.ie6ddy



"When Disney Plus was announced, we realized that there was an opportunity to interweave a cinematic universe with a television universe, which had never been done before" -Nate Moore, Executive Producer of Marvel Studios

55 seconds into the Assembled episode for The Falcon and The Winter Soldier



Disney Plus, for several months now, has placed those shows alongside The Gifted and the X-men and Fantastic 4 movies into a category called "Marvel Legacy" and definitely NOT in any of the categories labeled "Marvel Cinematic Universe"
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 12/9/2021, 1:28 PM
@lordSTALE - You seem confused by what you're quoting from me, which is weird because I'm pretty sure we've already had this conversation.

Until Feige actually says "those shows that used to be in the MCU are actually not canon to the MCU anymore" there's not really anything to discuss. Feige's comments about the Disney+ shows are very obviously referring to the fact that the events of these shows will actually follow on into the movies (unlike any of the pre D+ shows did) which is what it means to truly be "interlinked". What their words don't say at all is if the previous shows are still canon anymore, and judging by the fact that we've now seen them pull characters/castings from both ABC and Netflix, we've got more actual evidence in favor of them being canon than we do of them not

And that's fine. Feige can easily say that this Daredevil isn't the one from Netflix, which is a super easy distinction to put into words and not prone to any differing interpretations
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 12/9/2021, 2:02 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Yeah because Feige outright saying those shows weren't interlinked with the movies somehow ISN'T him saying that they aren't canon anymore 🤦🏽‍♂️

And apparently a completely different executive producer saying the same thing also doesn't mean what you want. And also Disney for months now, quite CLEARLY stating what is and in this case isn't in the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" can be taken however you want, I guess 😂😂😂

You can twist yourself into knots doing these mental gymnastics if you'd like, but that won't change reality. It's really getting to the delusion levels of flat-earthers and Qanon at this point 🤭
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 12/9/2021, 2:51 PM
@lordSTALE -

"You can twist yourself into knots doing these mental gymnastics"

Kevin Feige (or even Nate Moore) don't even say the words "Netflix" or "canon" in any quote you provided, and are actively casting actors from Netflix shows to play the same characters in current Marvel movies, so I'm not sure how gymnastics factor into waiting on them to clarify any of this. Feige's actions with Hawkeye/NWH and your interpretations of his quotes don't line up, and pretending you don't see a clear discrepancy is actually a much better example of "twisting yourself into knots".

If you want to take high level quotes about Disney+ shows and value them over Feige literally plucking characters from Netflix shows and putting them in current MCU projects, that is totally your prerogative, but I'm not sure why you're acting so weird about other people patiently waiting for some basic clarity
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 12/9/2021, 4:15 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Kevin Feige and Nate Moore both said that with the Disney Plus shows FOR THE FIRST TIME, the shows would be connected to the MCU movies and also Disney Plus is REALLY pushing that narrative, which should be understood by anyone with a reading level above the 4th grade as saying the shows that came before are NOT connected to the MCU movies soooo... 😏😂😂😂

It's not even high level logic. Even Charlie Cox has stated that it wouldn't be the exact same Matt Murdock from the Netflix, therefore being a variant as we understand it. Fisk will look drastically different and won't be in jail, how's the delusion working all of that out? 🤔 Marvel Studios is tearing away what worked and dumping the rest (into Legacy with AoS)

But anyway have fun in your fantasy land 🤭👍🏼
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 12/9/2021, 5:01 PM
@lordSTALE -

"Kevin Feige and Nate Moore both said that with the Disney Plus shows FOR THE FIRST TIME, the shows would be connected to the MCU movies"

As I've already stated (and Kevin Feige already noted) the connection between the new movies and the D+ shows work both ways now, which is entirely different than how they worked before. That has nothing to do with what is "canon" or not, which is why you can't produce a quote of either of them talking about the Netflix and ABC shows no longer having any canonical connection to the films. Kevin Feige in 2015 already noted the shows and the movies were "connected" just in one direction because their production timelines don't allow for a seamless back and forth

https://themarvelreport.com/2015/09/kevin-feige-confirms-marvel-tv-film-connection/

So, putting "FOR THE FIRST TIME" in all caps is probably something you should stop doing since he's clearly already acknowledged that they've been connected since AoS first came out (in 2013) and he's already stated that this D+ "connection" will be different (flowing both ways). Again, if Feige comes out tomorrow and says the old shows events have been retconned out of the MCU, that's totally fine. But pretending there's only one way to interpret Feige's comments even tho your interpretation clearly contradicts Feige's own original words only shows that you're too immature to even slightly soften your stance.....or you're pretending to believe what you're saying 100%, which both seem like strange ways to engage in a discussion

"Even Charlie Cox has stated that it wouldn't be the exact same Matt Murdock from the Netflix, therefore being a variant as we understand it"

Charlie Cox at no point has said that if he came back in the MCU, he'd be from a different timeline than the one in the Netflix show. There are pretty clear guidelines for what constitutes a variant, so I'm again wondering why you'd pretend even to know what version of DD he's playing (he also said some elements would be the same, and that he views it similar to different writers reimagining characters in different comic runs, which has nothing to do with "variants).

"Fisk will look drastically different and won't be in jail, how's the delusion working all of that out?"

Clint Barton was on house arrest at the beginning of Endgame, committed countless international crimes, and over the course of 5 years and is now taking his kids to a broadway play. But please explain to me how someone as resourceful as Kingpin couldn't escape from jail while half the population had suddenly vanished and that the only reasonable explanation for him being free is that he's a variant.

Again, if you want to let Disney+ labels or quotes that don't even mention the word "canon" tell you what is or isn't canon, that's fine. I'm just going to wait for the guy putting the same casted characters from Netflix shows in current MCU projects clarify things, and I'm going to somehow do that without being a weirdo towards people who would prefer to jump to conclusions based on limited information
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 12/9/2021, 6:41 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Dude just give up. This is nothing more than willful ignorance at this point. Even Charlie Cox has called his MCU Matt Murdock a "reimagining" of the Netflix Matt, a few times

Nate Moore and Kevin Feige's quotes are irrefutable and Disney couldn't be more clear about how they feel. You can leave your goalpost outside of the stadium if you want. Everyone else has moved on, so stay stubborn 🤷🏽‍♂️😂
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