LOKI Director Explains Why We Didn't See The Fallout From Sylvie's Attack On The Sacred Timeline

LOKI Director Explains Why We Didn't See The Fallout From Sylvie's Attack On The Sacred Timeline

Loki director Kate Herron has elaborated on why we didn't get to see the fallout from Sylvie's attack on the timeline, while also sharing details on a scrapped "rampage" in the Time Variance Authority.

By JoshWilding - Jul 22, 2021 02:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki
Source: Phase Zero

At the end of Loki's second episode, we met Sylvie just as she was launching an attack on the Sacred Timeline. Using the TVA's pruning devices to cause chaos (in an effort to give her enough time to find and kill the Time-Keepers), her mission might have been a success had the God of Mischief not intervened and taken them both to Lamentis-1.

Unfortunately, we never got to witness the fallout from Sylvie's actions, which was a surprise when many fans wondered if it might be the start of something much bigger. The TVA ultimately managed to clean this mess up off-screen, of course, and Loki director Kate Herron has now elaborated on why that was.

"I don't know if we ever saw them clean it up. I think it was always something that happened off-screen," the filmmaker explained. "You saw her do her rampage kind of through the TVA, and we're with Loki's POV, right? And then they end up on Lamentis. So it's kind of like, the TVA have been doing that while they've been on Lamentis."

Herron acknowledged that there's potentially "something more to be explored" with what happened, but as we know, she won't be responsible for telling that story after confirming plans to move on from Loki.

She did, however, reveal that we nearly saw more of Sylvie's attack on the TVA. "What we used to have actually was, so in Elissa [Karasik's] script, basically, it carried on. She went into the TVA, and there was...We called it 'The Rampage.' And originally, I think in the script, that was massive. It was like her going through the TVA and taking everyone out."

Ultimately, that attack on the Sacred Timeline served a purpose, even if the ramifications weren't acknowledged in a direct way. Seeing as this first season wrapped up with the recreation of the Multiverse, seeing anything similar before then would have arguably lessened the impact of "For All Time. Always."

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Mugens
Mugens - 7/22/2021, 3:07 AM
Seeing more could have potentially been better but realistically LOKI was only six episodes long so unfortunately something had to be left by the way-side.
Fares
Fares - 7/22/2021, 4:29 AM
@Mugens - Honestly, they could've had it instead of the Lamentis episode or injected some of it in the episode itself, because outside of having Loki and Sylvie chill for a bit, that episode was inconsequential.
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 7/22/2021, 3:21 AM
Man I was so confused by that.. she looked like she opened up the sacred timeline, everyone at the TVA were going crazy trying to figure it out and then… nothing.. then right at the end when all the other timelines were branching out of the sacred one after Sylvie killed He Who Remains, I was thinking “wait hasn’t this happened before?” I loved Loki but they could’ve done better at answering the huge cliffhanger of Ep 2
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/22/2021, 3:23 AM
@JohnCastillo - I was confused too. Not so much when she bombed the timeline and all were going crazy, but especially by the next time we see the screen. Didn't even look like they took any new precautions either
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 7/22/2021, 5:36 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - We don’t agree too much cause it seems like you didn’t like it that much 😂 I loved the series. I thought most of what they done was cool. And although the final episode was just talking, it was brilliant, helped by a great performance by Jonathan Majors. Talking is great if the dialogue and acting is great too.. most dramas you can say is just “sitting, walking, standing and talking” but simplifying those aspects of storytelling is something I don’t agree with.
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 7/22/2021, 7:07 AM
@bkmeijer - @JohnCastillo I like to think of it like HWR stepped in(behind the scenes without showing) and helped the TVA fix the mess Sylvie caused. This way it ups the ante when she kills him and he's no longer there to fix the sacred timeline.
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 7/22/2021, 7:27 AM
@ElvenKingSlayer - Why did it take me like 5 whole minutes to figure out HWR is He Who Remains 😂😂.
Yeah I get that and I like it, but that’s us just guessing or being told it by a producer or something lol, just by watching the show it was a little confusing, only that part though the rest wasn’t baffling. Unless multiverse and timelines mess with your brain.
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 7/22/2021, 7:36 AM
@JohnCastillo - Hehe:)
Yeah I agree, I like to get the explenation in the show and not making up stuff myself after. I was also confused and wanted an answer.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/22/2021, 11:37 AM
@ElvenKingSlayer - that probably makes the most sense. My guess is when the red line was reached, an evil Kang would appear. So maybe HWR to care of those like all those in the Multiversal War
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 7/23/2021, 5:06 AM
@bkmeijer - I like that idea!
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/22/2021, 3:26 AM
Since the sixth episode, I think the red line represented the moment a timeline differed to the point that the Nathaniel Richards in that timeline was gonna become evil (and was what WHR was trying to prevent, not necessarily every single change).

So in hindsight I'm actually way more confused by this. Could maybe see the rampage be the cause of the TVA Loki ends up at being ruled by a Kang though, but thats it for the ramifications.
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/22/2021, 3:33 AM
Didn’t care personally how many marvel movies have people seen left with questions unanswered not first time will never be last left people confused and wanting more so I don’t care
Whaley87
Whaley87 - 7/22/2021, 3:56 AM
@dragon316 - Your clearly care. You're always bitching in a Marvel article. I bet you love all the unanswered questions from Snyders Justice League though, what's your take on them?
Toecutter
Toecutter - 7/22/2021, 3:53 AM
Off-topic: I just saw The Head Hunter, and I think the lead actor Christopher Rygh would make a good Wolverine in the MCU. Although he's Norwegian, so I don't know if his accent would bother some people, considering Logan is supposed to be Canadian.
Floke
Floke - 7/22/2021, 8:29 AM
@Toecutter - In the same (kinda) manner - I been watching Netflix van Helsing, and oh damn.. seeing Norwegian descentant Christopher Heyerdahl as Sam would make him able to do an absolutly terrifying take on The Joker imo. Like seriosly, he is so creepy.
Toecutter
Toecutter - 7/22/2021, 7:29 PM
@Floke - Haven't seen it, but he certainly has the perfect look for the Joker based on some google pictures. I guess I'll have to check it out.
Floke
Floke - 7/23/2021, 6:19 AM
@Toecutter - My expectations for that show was slim and none. Thought it was some Twillight show :) Even if it simetimes looks kinda low budget SyFy, it is brutal and gory as hel.

And Sam... o'boy... Ive grown up with Freddy Kreuger, Jason and the 80s horror icons - still this guy gives me the creeps. Never even heard of the guy before but oh man...

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/22/2021, 3:55 AM
I was confused by what her attack would have really done. Weren't those little bombs supposed to reset the timelines they are used in? So if she dropped a bunch of those in different places on the Sacred Timeline, wouldn't it reset the entire Sacred Timeline?

I guess I'm just missing exactly what those bombs do. The only time we ever saw the TVA use them was after capturing a variant in an alternate timeline. So I thought they were using those bombs to wipe out that branch that wasn't "supposed" to happen. Is that not right?
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 7/22/2021, 4:18 AM
@CorndogBurglar - don’t think her plan was to actually let the bombs go off it was to lure as many agents out of the TVA as possible so she could go in and kill the time keepers
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/22/2021, 4:28 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Yeah, that makes sense. But she sure as he'll used a lot of bombs and sent them through portals all around the universe (I'm assuming). What if the TVA couldn't get to them all? Wouldn't even one of them "reset" the entire Sacred Timeline? That's a hell of a risk to take.

Again, unless I'm missing exactly what one of those bombs really does.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 7/22/2021, 4:43 AM
@CorndogBurglar - no you’re right it was a really reckless plan on her part , and she is very lucky they TVA was able to get to all of them before they went off
globaltravels
globaltravels - 7/22/2021, 7:38 AM
in the Assembled documentary there's shots of Sylvie killing more TVA agents in the offices and cafeteria.
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