VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Seemingly Retcons SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME In A Very Unexpected Way - SPOILERS

VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Seemingly Retcons SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME In A Very Unexpected Way - SPOILERS

Venom: The Last Dance begins where 2021's Spider-Man: No Way Home ended, though the threequel appears to retcon that movie's mid-credits scene, to some extent. Find out exactly what happens after the jump!

By JoshWilding - Oct 24, 2024 07:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Venom

In Venom: Let There Be Carnage's post-credits scene, Eddie Brock found himself pulled to Earth-616 where his alien suit immediately took great interest in a news report about Spider-Man.

The events of Spider-Man: No Way Home revealed that Doctor Strange's botched spell had started pulling every Variant who knows the wall-crawler's secret identity into the MCU. That explained Venom's unexpected arrival on Earth-616, though he never joined the final battle and instead chose to remain in Mexico.

That was confirmed by Spider-Man: No Way Home's stinger, with Eddie sent back home in the same way as the Spider-Men and Sinister Six Five.

Venom: The Last Dance opens with the 2021 movie's post-credits scene as the Lethal Protector learns about Iron Man and Thanos. However, when he returns home this time, the glowing effects from Spider-Man: No Way Home are seemingly replaced, or at least joined by, one of the portals later used by Knull to send his Xenophage across the universe.

So, what's happening here? We never did see Eddie fully disappear three years ago, meaning it's possible the glow that left the bartender slack-jawed was always the one featured here. If so, it suggests Knull's portals are a new way of portraying Multiversal travel and may confirm he can open portals between worlds.

Back in his reality, Venom declares that he's done with all this "Multiverse sh*t" and leaves a sliver of himself on the bar which is later collected by General Rex Strickland. We never get to see what happens to the piece of Venom left on Earth-616.

Whether this is a retcon or meant to add to what we saw in Spider-Man: No Way Home remains to be seen, but only time will tell whether Marvel Studios chooses to address any of this - including Venom's brief visit to Earth-616 - in a future project like Spider-Man 4.

Either way, it comes across like a step backwards rather than one forward so we'd temper expectations about a meeting with Spidey.

"The most cinematic, monumental Venom movie to date, we said in our recent review of the movie, "The Last Dance leaves room for improvement but by upping the stakes and allowing Eddie and Venom to bond, it’s epic and heartfelt enough to leave us hoping this is far from Tom Hardy’s last whirl as the Lethal Protector."

In Venom: The Last Dance, Tom Hardy returns as Venom, one of Marvel's greatest and most complex characters, for the final film in the trilogy. Eddie and Venom are on the run. Hunted by both of their worlds and with the net closing in, the duo are forced into a devastating decision that will bring the curtains down on Venom and Eddie's last dance.

The movie stars Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Peggy Lu, Alanna Ubach, Stephen Graham, and Rhys Ifans. Kelly Marcel directs from a screenplay she wrote, based on a story by Hardy and Marcel. The film is produced by Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal, Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy and Hutch Parker.

Venom: The Last Dance will be released in theaters on October 25.

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HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 10/24/2024, 7:11 PM
not surprising. between this franchise and Morbius, Sony has pulled this same trick 3 or 4 times now.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 10/24/2024, 7:43 PM
@HeraldNumber7 - and we shall continue to keep falling for it. Sadly.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/24/2024, 7:12 PM
It does sound confusing.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 10/24/2024, 7:17 PM
Vulture appearing in Morbius has an easy explanation. He was a villain removed from his universe and placed in another thanks to the effects of Fisk's collider as explained by Miguel in Across the Spider-Verse. I would have to visually watch the scene to see if Josh makes any sense because it could very well be that Venom being pulled into Universe 616 is what alerted Knull of the sacred timeline being broken and the Multiverse is once again free from being locked away and that's why the portal changed
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/24/2024, 7:17 PM
Sony does love to have tight continuity
JustBrootal
JustBrootal - 10/24/2024, 8:10 PM
3 dogshit movies,and Venom is still in no way associated with his true origin or Peter Parker/Spiderman. What crack are these Sony execs smoking?
MuadDib
MuadDib - 10/24/2024, 11:05 PM
@JustBrootal - the MCU Spider-Man deserves better than Hardy’s crap Venom. We all know Sony is angling to find a way to slither their way into the MCU, I just hope Marvel doesn’t fall for it and stays firm.

We can always get an accurate Venom, without any of the Sony baggage and all the strings that will come attached with it.

Fingers crossed we don’t get stuck with the dumpster fire that pumped out Madam Webb and Morbius and is shoving Kraven and all these other trash movies out their ass
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/24/2024, 8:16 PM
It’s really baffling how they created these movies with what seems to be zero care for good scriptwriting. The animated stuff is so good and the live action is the exact opposite. How good it could be with these characters and they just take a shit every single time. The retcons are so clumsy. The performances are borderline MST3K worthy. Such a rich group of characters and such poor execution. It’s baffling
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/24/2024, 8:42 PM
What a bland wet fart of a franchise. Instead of properly adapting the black suit storyline with Kraven and Eddie, we get a shitty franchise and probably another shitty franchise instead of one awesome Tom Holland franchise.. sony is ass, aside from the tech side
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 10/24/2024, 8:56 PM
I respect what Hardy has done with Venom and he seems to be a lifelong fan, but he’s absolutely nothing like Eddie Brock.

I really would love to see Marvel and Sony come to some new agreement so we can seem them introduce all of spidey’s characters in the MCU. If and when that ever happens I would love to see this guy play a more comic accurate Eddie.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 10/24/2024, 10:01 PM
Sony is so dumb. Venom 3 should have been "Venom I love New York!" And have it taken place immediately after No Way Home where Venom is obsessed with Spider-Man and begins to remember the events of Spider-Man 3 with Peter 2. Venom explains how the memory of a symbiote works and the two see a breaking news bulletin of Spider-Man (Garfield) apprehending crime boss Tombstone in NY. Eddie and Venom venture to NY to find and challenge Spider-Man for revenge on Venom's variant.

Then they could have made "The Amazing Spider-Man 3" with Peter 3 obsessed with the idea of the Multiverse and attempts to build a way through to find a world where Gwen is alive but causes more harm than good when the alien stone he uses is a beacon to Klyntar and Earth begins to witness the arrival of Knull's army. Miguel comes in to recruit Peter and Venom and help warn the Spider-Verse of Knull's Multiversal arrival.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/24/2024, 10:39 PM
@SonOfAGif - you Son of a ...gif(?)

That's perfect!
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/24/2024, 10:43 PM
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I CHALLENGE THE ENTIRE SITE TO FIND ONE FLAW IN THIS BEAUTIFULLY CREATED VIDEO!

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IT'S THE MOST SPOT-ON CRITIQUE OF THE MCU PROBLEM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS GUY AS A FUTURE CREATIVE CONSULTANT MOVING FORWARD...

Order66
Order66 - 10/24/2024, 11:08 PM
Why in the [frick] would they retcon this?? I would love to talk one on one with whoever is in charge of this franchise and ask them point blank are they retarded?
sully
sully - 10/25/2024, 1:28 AM
@Order66 - Two words: Avi Arad.
Order66
Order66 - 10/25/2024, 1:37 AM
@sully - he is a cancer and should go away. Hate that [frick]ing guy so much.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/24/2024, 11:14 PM
What Sony is doing to CBMs now is comparable to what the 90s did to the comics industry.
Makiveli21
Makiveli21 - 10/24/2024, 11:16 PM
That was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. I knew it as soon as the first line “I am Knull and I’m the bad guy”, and then when Eddie walked around barefoot for 40 minutes. It got worse when the family sang a song in the car, the entire Vegas scene with msChang was unbelievably cringe, and the worst ending I’ve ever seen. Keeley from Ted Lasso got a symbiotic…. Just wow. Keep Tom Holland away from all of this for the love of god.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/24/2024, 11:56 PM
@Makiveli21 -
@Order66 -
@JFerguson -

You guys are going IN! Thanks for the heads up. I'm starting to wonder if Sony is intentionally tanking the IP's, hoping they will increase the punching power via creative abuse!?? 🤔

It's a villain level business strategy, but I can't see this film being as bad as, well, the other Sony 💩 shows, on accident.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/25/2024, 1:36 AM
@KennKathleen - it’s possible especially with bitter Ari Arad still around with his strong grip over this franchise.

Still, im hoping Spider-Noir will be good. Nick Cage with spider powers can’t possibly be bad , can it?
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 10/25/2024, 3:10 AM
@JFerguson - It’s Sony, there’s no guarantee he actually has spider powers….
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/25/2024, 3:14 AM
@CerealKiller1 -


@JFerguson -

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philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 10/24/2024, 11:51 PM
By far, the worst of the 3. How did they decide this was their final story?
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 10/25/2024, 3:21 AM
@philinterrupted - How do you figure it was the worst?
My scale goes 3,1, 2.
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