Jordan Peele Reportedly Met With Marvel Studios For X-MEN; AVENGERS 5 Could Feature MORE Than 60 Characters

Jordan Peele Reportedly Met With Marvel Studios For X-MEN; AVENGERS 5 Could Feature MORE Than 60 Characters

A recent rumor claimed that Nope director Jordan Peele met with Marvel Studios for a mysterious movie, and it's now come to light that it was X-Men. We also have an update on Avengers 5...

By MarkCassidy - Jun 06, 2024 09:06 PM EST
Filed Under: X-Men

A recent rumor claimed that Jordan Peele (Get Out, Nope, Us) met with Marvel Studios about potentially taking the helm of an upcoming movie, and we may now know which project he was speaking to Kevin Feige and co. about.

Though it took some convincing (and a few quid from his patrons), Jeff Sneider revealed the name of the film during the latest episode of The Hot Mic, and, as many speculated, it was indeed the long-awaited X-Men reboot.

Unfortunately, it sounds like things didn't work out.

Sneider heard that he took the meeting a few weeks ago, and isn't actually sure if he was being eyed to director or write. Since then, we got word that the movie has enlisted a writer in the form of Michael Lesslie (The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes; 2016's Assassin’s Creed movie).

This doesn't mean Peele won't return to the project down the line (maybe he'll be convinced by Lesslie's script?), but for now, he appears to have moved on.

Would Marvel give Peele the freedom to direct this film (whatever it turns out to be) his own way without any interference? We would certainly hope so, but other filmmakers have expressed some frustration with having to work within the confines of the MCU system.

In related news, the trades reported earlier this week that Deadpool and Wolverine director Shawn Levy is one of the filmmakers being eyed to helm Avengers 5. Though Levy is not believed to have signed on, he is said to be the studio's top choice.

Interestingly, Deadline mentioned that up to 60 characters are expected to return for the next big MCU event.

"Sources close to the project say more than 60 MCU characters could reprise their roles, including everyone from Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth and Benedict Cumberbatch to Tom Hiddleston, Simu Liu and Karen Gillan. Unlike the first four films in which there was a core group that consisted of Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Hemsworth and Ruffalo, many of the characters in this film would have equal footing, making it more of an ensemble feature instead of a handful of characters leading the team."

However, Sneider believes it's actually going to be closer to 65 or 66.

This may sound like overkill, but it's worth noting that the previous Avengers movie, Endgame, actually featured 63 characters (including the heroes who returned after being "snapped" back into existence), so it can be made to work.

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DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 6/6/2024, 9:22 PM
In case people are forgetting, which they often conveniently are, Endgame's short credits alone had over 50 characters. 54 to be exact, and I'm only referring to those that ended with signatures of the original six.

For a multiversal crossover like that, 60 is putting it lightly.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/6/2024, 9:56 PM
@DrReedRichards - I don't really think you need 60 characters though.

I would say the original Avengers,Fantastic Four, three Spider-Man,Guardians Of The Galaxy,Doctor Strange,Deadpool and some of the Fox X-Men characters.

Maybe some more characters but I think most of them will be background characters.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 6/6/2024, 10:24 PM
@DrReedRichards - Endgame was a culmination so it warranted that many characters, this is just Avengers 5, it’s not the end of anything.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 6/6/2024, 10:32 PM
@WruceBayne, @marvel72 -

It's about as much of an end as Infinity War was prior to Endgame. Yes, it's the penultimate crossover of its phase and saga, but it's pivotal in helping the finale. Plus, let's not act as if all 60+ of them are gonna share the spotlight. Some will be the protagonists, others will be supporting, while others will be no more than lengthy cameos (kinda like Red Skull was, for instance).
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 6/6/2024, 11:34 PM
@DrReedRichards - I get what you’re saying and I agree to a certain extent but I just feel like Avengers 5 is going to be on a smaller scale like Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/7/2024, 4:16 AM
@WruceBayne - "This is just Avengers 5, it’s not the end of anything."

If it's based on Time Runs Out it could literally be the end of everything.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 6/7/2024, 5:12 AM
@ObserverIO -

I got that brick tome back in 2018, along with the prior Infinity. Best purchase ever, bar none.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/7/2024, 5:17 AM
@WruceBayne - I agree that it’ll likely be on a smaller scale as a setup to Secret Wars as the big multiversal event

However , I could see it being still akin to IW then Avengers or AOU.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 5:28 AM
@WruceBayne - Avengers 5 theoreticaly should feature most, if not all the major characters of the main universe cos it IS an Endgame of sorts for the sacred timeline prior to the collapse of the multiverse and a collection of heroes and villains from multiple timelines ending up on Battleworld.

So no, it should not be like a battle for New York, it is a battle for the entire universe with Avengers 6 a battle for the entire multiverse.

However the 60+ depends who/how they count them (would you add in Selvig, Fury, Coulson, Maria Hill, Pepper Potts etc in the character count of the first film or only the main six) and certainly doesn't mean we will be following a large group throughout.

It remains to be seen if more of an infinity war thing where we go from one battle scene to another with differing groups of heroes fighting an antagonist or two or more of an Endgame where for the bulk of it we are following a group of upto 12 Avengers (Endgame 11 went back in time if memory serves) with most the rest turning up in the final act after some of them had smaller appearance here and there before.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 6/7/2024, 7:23 AM
@Apophis71 - if this was Secret Wars then I’d understand the large scale of characters but this is just Avengers 5: Whatever we replaced Kings Dynasty with. I’m not saying that having a large cast is bad, I just don’t want an unnecessarily overstuffed film.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 6/7/2024, 7:26 AM
@ObserverIO - you very well could be right. Do we know what ideas about the title of Avengers 5 could be after they axed Kangs Dynasty?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 8:02 AM
@WruceBayne - Nobody wants it unnecessarily overstuffed, bar some sad sacks everyone wants it to be GOOD but it kind should be more toward Infinity war than the battle of New York cos to setup Secret Wars with a multiverse of characters you first have to have the universe ending threat first course before the multiverse level threat main one so thus MORE than just a Battle for New York or Sokovia.

The problem is more we should have had a world threat level (not universe level one) Avengers movie already and think all agree there should have been one of those already out so I get thinking if we were heading to THREE not two Avengers movie World threat, then universe threat, then multiverse threat would make total sense.

All of that said, we need to have a good focus on a not too big team where we have suffice screen time with all members of said team. I would tend to think it should be around the 6 to 8 members range... How many others feature at varying points of in a final act is a side issue which can work well IF you have a core group taking you through the narrative.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/7/2024, 8:20 AM
@WruceBayne - I've not heard of any other titles yet, but if it leads into Secret Wars it's gotta be big.

Maybe it's AvX and it's an incursion of the MCU and Foxverse.
theprophet
theprophet - 6/6/2024, 9:24 PM
Shit, im down for Peele to take over X Men. Maybe he can give it like a horror element that would be awesome
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 6/6/2024, 10:39 PM
@theprophet - give him a Hulk movie
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 6/6/2024, 11:41 PM
@theprophet - he should’ve did Venom: Carnage
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 6/7/2024, 1:32 AM
@theprophet - mutations would indeed be a perfect way to utilize body horror tactics.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 8:21 AM
@theprophet - He's a racist pos. Do you support racism?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 9:05 AM
@Yankdandy - If by racist you mean cos 90% or more of films he watched in his lifetime and liked had a white lead but as seen so many of those wanted to do something other than that for his original films by his being amongst the more current 20% with a non-white lead...

...that isn't racism, last I checked US was only 60% non-hispanic whites so still over represented in how many are leads in films and nothing about not wanting to add to that skew and do what most others are already doing is racist.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 9:27 AM
@Apophis71 - Nope, i meant racist pos because he is a racist pos. Do you support racism?
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 9:32 AM
@Apophis71 - imagine a white dude saying "i cant ser myself casting a black dude". You'd rip your pink hair off your head and cry racism. You know it.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 9:59 AM
@Yankdandy - Still not racist, white dude making what he knows and understands and avoiding something he knows he would likely fail at doing well wouldn't be racist either...

...racism is about the reason behind a choice, not the choice itself, as never gonna have an issue with someone like Coppola choosing or stating an intent early in their career about only doing mafia related stuff with white Italian leads either, doesn't mean he has anything against any other race of cultural background.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:07 AM
@Apophis71 - Going out of your way saying "i wont hire a white actor" is as racist as it gets. You know it and i find it absurd you're trying to justify it. And Coppola casting an italian for a mafia movie is hardly the same ffs. If Coppola said, ill not hite a black actor for any movir i make, yes then that would be super racist. Just like Peele did.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:13 AM
@Yankdandy - Actualy I'll put it another way, if I myself was creating an original film from scratch I would not have a black lead as I grew up in an entirely white small rural town thus do not have enough insight to tell adequatly do a narrative with a black lead even after living in a more diverse city for the latter half of my life (doesn't mean the entire cast would be white however, it most certainly wouldn't be).

Therefore I WOULD say that with MY films if I were to make any I cannot see myself casting a non-white lead, but that wouldn't mean that when I was casting something may click and end up doing so anyway.

If I was hired to make someone elses film that statement would not apply at all and could see myself directing a film that has a black lead and would ensure I assembled a team around me if not one already in place to help me give voice to a character I had less understanding of.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:14 AM
@Yankdandy - And he DID NOT say he won't hire a white actor, he said he couldn't see himself having a white lead character in his films.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:20 AM
@Yankdandy - Case in point to prove you wrong, in his film 'Get out' four of the top six actors were white, Us two of the top four cast are white, Nope had a diverse cast including White and Asians in the main cast
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:29 AM
@Apophis71 - Yes sure, he wanted villians.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:30 AM
@Apophis71 - "And he DID NOT say he won't hire a white actor, he said he couldn't see himself having a white lead " That's the same thing buddy
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:32 AM
@Apophis71 - Honest question, would you fight me this hard if it was a white man saying this?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:33 AM
@Yankdandy - Still not any proof of racism any more than a white dude wanting to make films about the mafia thus wanting to cast white folk as Italians...

...the choice is not racist, the reason behind a choice determines if that is the case or not.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:36 AM
@Apophis71 - I agree with you regarding people are more likely to do things they're more familiar with. Thats true. Still doesnt justify to go out of your was to announce your wont hire someone based on colour.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:38 AM
@Yankdandy - Honest answer, yes, if someone who was white had a valid reason why he couldn't see himself having a non-white lead I would defend his reasoning just as much if no indication the choice was based in racial animus just as I would defend an Asian creative stating a well reasoned reason why he would only cast Asian leads.

If it later came to light they WERE at their core racist, be they black, Asian or white after having defended them I would also be on of the first to call them out on it.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:42 AM
@Apophis71 - for a specific role. Like hiring a white dude for a role in a viking movie or a black actor for a Zulu movie. Thats ok. But to announce "i wont hire a white man in my movies" is not the same. Surely you get that
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:43 AM
@Yankdandy - Creatives often cast based on color, why it is exempt with casting calls from discrimination laws as makes little sense putting out a casting call for Adolf Hitler and not stating they must be white...


...depends on the story you want to tell and thus the determining factors in what the makeup of the cast would be.

If a modern day Witch only wanted to make films about witches so would only consider a female lead I wouldn't call her sexist either, lol.
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:45 AM
@Apophis71 - i just think, to get out of your way and say you wont hire a white actor is racist. You clearly dont think so we cant get further. Lets agree to disagree.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:46 AM
@Yankdandy - As I say, depends on the story you want to tell with your own film, being hired by someone else changes the equation but with your own passion project you know what stuff interests you most and the narratives you want to give voice to which can thus limit who the lead would be.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:47 AM
@Yankdandy - But he didn't say he wouldn't hire a white actor, and has many times in all his films but he is VERY early in his career but yeh, agree to differ :D
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 10:50 AM
@Apophis71 - Fine. But you need to keep in mind, im white and we are a minority. And every time Hollywood replacing minorites is diminishes us.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/7/2024, 10:54 AM
@Yankdandy - White too and still around 80% of leads are white in Hollywood so we're doing fine, doing damn well for a minority if you want to cast us as such, plenty room still for differing shades of lead :D
Yankdandy
Yankdandy - 6/7/2024, 11:04 AM
@Apophis71 - 80% historically or 80% the last decade? Usa is mainly white though?
I changed market and watching a lot of Korean movies nowadays. (Good shit. Some real gems) And i never seen a white dude in those movies. And i never thought, "i dont feel represented, i need to force them to make me feel included so i can feel better in my sad heart". I understand they're Korean movies and i dont need to force people who look like me in.
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