Ror Revisits: X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Ror Revisits: X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Thats right folks, its the movie everyone loves to hate..and in some cases just hates. But is it all that bad? Click for my take...

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Aug 17, 2010 07:08 AM EST
Source: Ror Reviews

Ok, I know its a bit early for a revisit of a movie that was only released a little over a year ago but I watched it again over the weekend with my girlfriend who had never seen it and since we have talk of the sequel beginning to filter I figured it was time to take another look.

Wolverine(as I think most people agree the movie should have been called) will probably go down in history as the most fan bashed CBM second only to Batman And Robin. Even people who like shit like GI Joe hate this film. People who like Punisher: Warzone HATE THIS FILM! Why is that? Well, its because of those damn liberties. Nobody likes a liberty taken with their beloved source material and this film takes plenty. Some are understandable, some are just inexplicably silly and pointless. But does that make it a bad film? Not for me, but unfortunately even disregarding the changes from the comic, Wolverine is not the film it should have been.

The plot follows(loosely) Logan's origin as young James Howlette from the comics. But makes Victor Creed(seemingly replacing Dog Logan) his half brother. It follows the two in a very impressive opening sequence as they fight through the various wars in American history until thanks to Creed's blood lust they end up in front of a firing squad. Enter William Stryker(Danny Huston), who offers them their freedom if they will join his "special team" of mercenary mutants. The team also consists of Bolt(Dominic Monaghan), Blob(Kevin Durand), John Wraith(WIll.i.am) and Wade Wilson(Ryan Reynolds). After various massacres Logan has enough and quits. 5 years later we see him living the quiet life with his girl Kayla(a variation of Silver Fox played by the lovely Lynn Collins). But of course that doesn't last as Creed comes a calling. After that, things really take a turn for the "piss off the fanboys" with watered down versions of Gambit(Taylor Kitch) and remote controlled, sword armed, mute, laser shooting Deadpool!

I'm sure everyone has seen this by now so I'll leave the plot summary there. I think most people know that I have always defended this film, not that I thought it was great, I just never thought it deserved the bashing it got. Well, I still don't. In fact if anything, watching it again with yet another non comic fan that really enjoyed it only reaffirms my belief that as comic book fans we can all too often allow our anger at changes to the source cloud our ability to just sit and watch a movie, taking it for what it is. But that being said, the film is far from great. Performance wise it does have two huge bright spots, Hugh Jackman and Liev Schrieiber as Wolvie and Saber..eh, I mean Victor Creed. Jackman once again doing a great job as the movie verse's Wolverine. In other words he's not quite as short, violent or boorish as he is in the comic. Get used to that folks, unless we get an R rated Wolverine movie its never going to change. And Scheiber is a great, menacing Creed. He doesn't look much like his comic counterpart in this, but shows that it doesn't matter a damn because we had the big shaggy dog boy in X-Men 1 and look how that turned out. Who was the better Sabertooth? The rest of the cast are a bit of a mixed bag. Huston doesn't make much of an impact as Stryker, coming across more smarmy than anything else. Collins is decent as Kayla but is lumbered with the majority of the script howlers(more on that later). The rest of Styker's team all do fine, but don't have enough screen time to expand on the early promise. An excellent Ryan Reynolds being the worst casualty as he only has about 5 minutes before he's gone from the movie, his character only returning at the end as Barkkapool!(fanboy name for the sword armed Deadpool). Then there is Kitch as Gambit. He does well in his opening scene, Cajun accent present too. Then when he returns at the end his accent is gone and he's become incredibly annoying to boot. The pacing is also off but with a few viewings it seems to flow a bit better and would not have mattered too much anyway if the script had been of a slightly higher quality. Unfortunately it isn't. There are cliches galore and a lot of it is just so unimaginative. I think at some point every single character threatens to take another's head off! And the final "magic bullet" plot device to remove Logan's memory is a silly move no matter how you look at it. The action scenes are good though despite what some may say. Creed and Logan have a few vicious throw-downs and there is a great helicopter/motorbike set piece. The special effects leave something to be desired but again, I think fanboy rage has exaggerated the ire they have received. Gavin Hood gets lambasted for his direction, but really I don't think he did a bad job. Working from the script he had its actually pretty well framed and shot(the occasional impulse to pan the camera up as a character shouts "NOOOOOOOO" aside!).

So, a bad adaptation for sure, but a decent film. Its certainly not half as good as Wolverine's first solo outing should have been and I'm sure everyone(me included) expected better. But couldn't the same be said for Iron Man 2? Anyway, I don't expect to change anyone's mind with this, just my take. I would ask that you take a bit of a survey amongst your friends who have seen the film but not read a comic in their lives. I guarantee you won't see that same venom in their eyes as the ones that did!.



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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/17/2010, 7:51 AM
Bwahahahahhahahaha!!!

Oops sorry lol, um good review, just not movie! : P

(Come on, you knew I was gonna say that lol, nice work)
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 8/17/2010, 8:04 AM
Yes, but the magic bullet is so fundamentally stupid that it kills the movie for me. Not just stupid as a variation from the source material, but as an idea in itself.
ScottScottScott
ScottScottScott - 8/17/2010, 8:05 AM
I've tried re-watching this movie a few times. Each time I got annoyed at the same parts. I agree to the non-comic fan, this movie isn't terrible. Jackman and Schrieiber were def the best part of the movie outside of Ryan Reynolds 5 minutes as Wade Wilson.

Just to many liberties taken, and a bad story. (Magic bullet I mean come on.) Still make it hard for me to enjoy this one. But here's hoping the sequel get's it right.
Deathlok
Deathlok - 8/17/2010, 8:07 AM
This movie was depressing to watch as a Wolverine and X-Men fan. It's that bad.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 8/17/2010, 8:08 AM
Good review, I'd give it 2 out of 5, but that's me.

I agree teh cast is the only bright spots of the film, espcially Jackman,Schrieber, and Reynolds.

I honestly gave up on it being an accurate adaption right after they made Vindicator and Guardian an elderly couple and killed them off after seven minutes.

But my main problem is that it is too short and the adamantium bullet at the end. I can live with what they did to Deadpool because it can be worked with.

If they had added on an extra 20 minutes or so to flesh out the characters, it would have made a load of difference.
MJPETTY7
MJPETTY7 - 8/17/2010, 8:11 AM
I actually liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The title sucked, Deadpool at the end sucked, and as much as I sort of liked him, Gambit kind of sucked too. Don't get me wrong, the movie was well done and every X-Men/Wolverine fan should own it (I do). But they kind of screwed up not only his origin, but also the people he interacted with. Now, I honestly think that Hugh Jackman IS Wolverine (like Christopher Reeve IS Superman). He plays the role very close to the way the character acts in the comics. Now, I'm NOT a Marvel Comics lover, but I AM a Marvel Studios person. I don't read Marvel anymore, but I will definitely go see an X-Men movie, or Iron Man, and most definitely, The Avengers. I do think Marvel could have done a lot better with this movie, but hey I'll watch it again. I honestly enjoy X-Men Origins: Wolverine (but the title still sucks, lol).
The14thAvenger
The14thAvenger - 8/17/2010, 8:11 AM
for me the worst part of this film was the montage of them fighting over the years,
when a post came up showing wolverine with cigar in mouth, Thompson in hand charging out of a d-day landing craft i had a nerdgasm
FINALLY we were going to see logan rip it up on d-day. BUT NO!
it turns out to be no more than a 4 second clip.
i was so dissapointed.
and dont even get me started on their portrayal of deadpool.
StephenJ
StephenJ - 8/17/2010, 8:16 AM
I agree with you. great review. imo it was a good movie.. Just a terrible adaption from the comics. Good action scenes and although Deadpool looked like crap, that last fight scene was GREAT. Gambit should not have been in that movie although I like how they tied him in after you saw his name on the computer in X2.

again great review ROR
KeithM
KeithM - 8/17/2010, 8:17 AM
Actually most of my friends hated it every bit as much as I did, sometimes for different reasons (obviously they neither knew nor cared about any 'changes' made to the source), but often for the same - i.e. illogical plot points, the stupidity of some of the character's behaviour (Gambit breaking up the fight between Wolverine and Sabretooth REALLY annoyed them) and the general mess of the story as a whole.

Nice try Ror, but it still sucks. ;)
Stumblin
Stumblin - 8/17/2010, 8:18 AM
A six shooter with adamantium bullets...that is all.
HelaGood
HelaGood - 8/17/2010, 8:18 AM
when i saw the article i wanted to see if LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE saw it too...
really just opened it to see his comment. i agree with him though. good article, crap movie.
Swanky
Swanky - 8/17/2010, 8:21 AM
Its no Daredevil :)

Excellent job as always Ror
FrankLeeGitnit
FrankLeeGitnit - 8/17/2010, 8:23 AM
Well it stands to reason that someone like Styker would make adamantium bullets... It's the ending that sucked... It was just plain lazy movie making... the first 2/3rds of the movie was actually well made...

Can't wait to see Wolverine in japan... if they mess that up i'm switching movie genre's..
Superzero
Superzero - 8/17/2010, 8:23 AM
I feel the same about this now as I did when I saw it the first time: GOOD but not as GREAT as it could have been. I was at a discount bookstore not too long ago and actually picked up the TPB's of WEAPON X and the "Japan Saga" for 5 bucks apiece! Reading Weapon X I couldn't help but think what a direct adaptation of that would be like. You know what it would be like in a movie? BORING! The comic is FANTASTIC, great art, dialogue, pacing etc, but if it were adapted to screen it would be a bunch of scientists in room and a naked, voiceless Wolverine. I wish the first movie would have focused a bit more on the weapon x project but if wishes were fishes we'd have some to fry. Now that I'm halfway through the Japan story I keep hoping that they do it justice in the sequel, re-reading this I remember why I love Wolverine so much. And it has ninjas, lots of ninjas.
ButtNakedSmurf
ButtNakedSmurf - 8/17/2010, 8:31 AM
you know even tho it was a bad adaptation of wolverines origin on, acount of them royaly screwing up deadpool and sabertooth looking completely unlike sabertooth, i thought it was a pretty good movie
ButtNakedSmurf
ButtNakedSmurf - 8/17/2010, 8:32 AM
you know even tho it was a bad adaptation of wolverines origin on, acount of them royaly screwing up deadpool and sabertooth looking completely unlike sabertooth, i thought it was a pretty good movie
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/17/2010, 8:37 AM
I'LL WATCH ANOTHER WOLVERINE..HELL I WATCHED ANG LEES HULK AND EVEN AFTER ALL THE TEARING DOWN OF HOW OFF THE MOVIE WAS FOR FANS...I STILL BELIEVED.
SPANKY FROM THE LITTLE RASCALS ON STEROIDS...


..NOW THATS WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR....

MatchesMalone
MatchesMalone - 8/17/2010, 8:44 AM
Ror, as much as I agree with you on Daredevil, the Hulk, and Superman Returns, I just cannot get into Wolverine at all. I see what you're saying about Gavin Hood not deserving the lambasting he gets for it, but just because a film is "well framed and shot", does not mean it is a good movie. The corny dialogue, muddled plot, dodgy cgi, the amatuerish acting (aside from Jackman and Schreiber), all add up to a shit movie in my book. Liberties taken with the source material (albeit major and pointless in this instance) I can deal with if a movie is good, but in the case of X-Men Origins: Wolverine (unnecessarily long title), this movie did not cut the mustard for me. In conclusion, Hood, Jackman, and Schreiber, as good as they were, could not save this movie from all of the other strikes against it.
FrankLeeGitnit
FrankLeeGitnit - 8/17/2010, 8:45 AM
Well in that case...
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/17/2010, 8:46 AM
Keith, you have some harsh mates! But I know what your saying, I don't mean to suggest that I know lots of people that loved it, but the majority of non comic fans enjoyed it. They still spotted the cheesiness/silly plot points.

Matches, fair cop, I can't argue with your points but aside from them I was still invested emotionally in the story! I'm not sure why, it just hooked me. If a movie does that I'll never be able to call it bad.

Anyway, thanks for reading as always folks.
hbk82287
hbk82287 - 8/17/2010, 8:55 AM
BAH! give me a deleted scene where someone like creed replaces the adamantium bullet with a carbonadium one, ill be more than happy! That in my opinion would solve this whole "magic bullet" dilemma. Great review.
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 8/17/2010, 8:55 AM
It's a sunday afternoon film. These films never EVER get anywhere near the comic book origins just because they arn't made for the thousands of comicbook readers on the planet, they are made for the millions of film fans that will go see them. Be fantastic to get a faithful adaptation but can't really see it ever happening. The first 15 minutes of this film could have been a 2 hour nerd-boys dream movie but it wouldn't of made the $400,000,000 that it did!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/17/2010, 8:56 AM
Joe6Pack74
Joe6Pack74 - 8/17/2010, 9:00 AM
This film was what it was. It was an ok story but I hated the special effects used for Emma Frost. They should have made her look like glass instead of tiny diamonds everywhere. I am not a deadpool fan so it did not bother me what they did to that minor character. Hopefully number 2 will be much better.
Kovacs
Kovacs - 8/17/2010, 9:01 AM
i promised myself to never watch 2 movies last year

one was revenge of the fallen and the other was origins
in the end out of boredom i watch transformers but im still proud to say i haven't watched this yet
thesmythefactor
thesmythefactor - 8/17/2010, 9:05 AM
I despised this film, I just dont understand how you can take a character who has been fleshed out time and time again in several different ways (while maintaining a few commonalities) and than write your own version of it i mean seriously all you have to do is follow a comic (with a few tweaks Id understand) the frigging story is already written why do they feel they need to change things dealing with the xmen and make it their own. Perhaps the biggest crime is Hugh Jackman not that he plays a poor Wolverine but actually i think he plays a great Wolverine (taking his physical limitations in context) i think he does a great job and if given total control would prob even do BETTER thats the real shame that we found the perfect actor to play one of if not the greatest comic character of all time and in three films they still managed to destroy it. I would never make this claim about any other movie or franchise despite how bad it is but i honestly feel as though i could write and make a better xmen and or wolverine film honestly
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/17/2010, 9:05 AM
@ rormachine

well done,for sitting through that piece of shit again.

how did you get to the score of 3/5.

fox best x-related movies to date

1.x-men 2 (4/5)
2.x-men(3/5)
3.x-men 3(2/5)
4.x-men origins wolverine(1/5 & thats for sabertooth.)

it was a complete mess..everything that featured wade wilson/deadpool,silver fox & emma frost being sisters,using charactors that have nothing to do with the early days of his origin,the terrible cgi claws & so on.)

fox should of just picked up a copy of barry windsor smiths weapon-x tpb or the originl comics,if fox could spare some money & just adapt them.


thesmythefactor
thesmythefactor - 8/17/2010, 9:06 AM
I despised this film, I just dont understand how you can take a character who has been fleshed out time and time again in several different ways (while maintaining a few commonalities) and than write your own version of it i mean seriously all you have to do is follow a comic (with a few tweaks Id understand) the frigging story is already written why do they feel they need to change things dealing with the xmen and make it their own. Perhaps the biggest crime is Hugh Jackman not that he plays a poor Wolverine but actually i think he plays a great Wolverine (taking his physical limitations in context) i think he does a great job and if given total control would prob even do BETTER thats the real shame that we found the perfect actor to play one of if not the greatest comic character of all time and in three films they still managed to destroy it. I would never make this claim about any other movie or franchise despite how bad it is but i honestly feel as though i could write and make a better xmen and or wolverine film honestly
YeaOkYea
YeaOkYea - 8/17/2010, 9:10 AM
This movie was just a sorry excuse to let FOX make a quick buck. I saw the bootleg & couldn't believe this was the Wolverine movie we were gonna be given. So I decided to go see the "theater" version & well... IT STILL SUCKED! There are fine lines between taking liberties & changing characters to the point where they're just "loosely" based on the comics, & by 'loosely' I mean NOT. this could've been a kick ass origin story IF rated R & stuck to the comics but FOX FOXed it up again. Even after trying to watched this on blu-ray with 'the 'quick facts' special features on it still managed to piss me off cause every fact started off as "In the comics it happened this way, in the comics it happened that way... Etc". Maybe Wolvie 2 will be tons better.
thesmythefactor
thesmythefactor - 8/17/2010, 9:11 AM
@ Deadpool72

I totally agree with everything you said except the part about X2 getting a 3/5. X2 gets a -100000000 out of 5 and in my option was worse than origins because at least origins never had a chance to be good there were so many moments and or chances for X2 to be good where they did things that almost seemed like a conscious effort to try to make it bad.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/17/2010, 9:12 AM
"it was a complete mess..everything that featured wade wilson/deadpool,silver fox & emma frost being sisters,using charactors that have nothing to do with the early days of his origin,.."

All covered in the part where I said it was a bad adaptation! Also, I would add a star to X2, half a star to X1 and I'd rate X3 3 stars along with Origins.
DarthGeoffPeterson
DarthGeoffPeterson - 8/17/2010, 9:15 AM
I personally enjoyd this movie< and still do to this day. I have been a HUGE Wolvie fan my whole life & think Hugh is absolutely perfect as the canucklehead. Yeah there were some weak points, but EVERY CBM has them! EVERY ONE of them.
ManThing
ManThing - 8/17/2010, 9:31 AM
LMAO


Jackman's heart and ambition and good acting chops and some cool CGI and fight/action sequences where the ONLY things about this movie that were worth a damn.

If Wolverine weren't such an popular character, the standards wouldn't need to be so high, and I wouldn't be saying this.

But he is.

If the story of Wolverine's life wasn't such a good one, and worth telling, the standards woulnd't need to be so high and I wouldn't be saying this.

But it is.

If this story wasn't so easily adapted into a cinematic universe then the standards wouldn't need to be so high and I wouldn't be saying this.

But it would have been.

So part of what makes this FAIL so monumental is the high stakes.
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/17/2010, 9:32 AM
i think it was a very good review, again i agree this isn't an Oscar winner by any stretch but I think it was still enjoyable. I am definitely a fan of the source comics but I am also a fan of movies. You definitely touched on the fact that sometimes you have to set aside your fanboy opinions and just enjoy the movie. The movie did really well which means despite our issues people went to see it. Unfortunately we are basically a minority in the fan base for these movies and we have to understand we aren’t the only ones seeing it. Doesn’t mean we can’t hold them to a higher standard, just means sometimes we won’t be pleased by everything.
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