ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Cast Share Hopes For ANT-MAN 4 To Be A Much Smaller Adventure

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Cast Share Hopes For ANT-MAN 4 To Be A Much Smaller Adventure

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is a much bigger movie than its predecessors, but the cast has now admitted they would like to see a scaled-down Ant-Man 4 which lowers the stakes. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Feb 18, 2023 09:02 AM EST
Source: Yahoo Entertainment

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania director Peyton Reed has said in numerous interviews that his goal with the threequel was to make it more than just another palette cleanser. 

While it's definitely far more epic than its predecessors, the Ant-Man Family's trip into the Quantum Realm has not received an overly positive response from critics. Most fans agree that they missed the grounded shenanigans of Ant-Man and The Wasp, with many supporting characters sorely missed during the course of this adventure. 

Talking to Yahoo Entertainment, Paul Rudd (Ant-Man), Evangeline Lilly (The Wasp), and Kathryn Newton (Cassie Lang) all agreed that they'd like Ant-Man 4 to dial things down a little. 

"I can't imagine where you [would go]," Rudd says. "How do you get bigger? And where do you go from here?"

"[When] I think about it, it's like this regular guy who has no innate super ability whatsoever has now gone head-to-head with Thanos and Kang," the actor continues. "I just feel like, cut the guy a break. Just let him sit on a beach somewhere. How much abuse can he take? How much punishment?"

"I do think this is a guy who really just wants to spend some time with his daughter. That would be nice."

Lilly added, "Ant-Man, the original, is still my favourite. I think I would [dial Ant-Man 4 down] if I was the director, or the writer, or Kevin Feige."

As for Newton, while she's a newcomer to this franchise, it sounds like she really enjoyed the approach taken in the first two instalments of the franchise. "I really like the down-to-earth Ant-Man. I loved Ant-Man and the Wasp. I like how they’re normal."

We're not going to put words into the mouths of the actors here, but it's hard not to wonder whether shooting 99% of Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania in The Volume proved tiresome. Watching the movie, it was apparent that in most scenes, only the cast and a handful of props were real! 

The movie is now playing in theaters and you can find our review by clicking here

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IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 2/18/2023, 9:06 AM
Hey I got it!

How about Scott loses the suit and he has to spend the 2 hours and 12 minutes figuring out if being AntMan is just the suit or if it comes within himself!

😵‍💫😬🫣🤦‍♂️🙄
🐜 🐜🐜🐜🐜
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/18/2023, 11:49 AM
@IronGenesis - Radioactive man can be the main villain but have it be some guy on tik tok pretending to be radioactive and he tells some jokes
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 2/18/2023, 9:07 AM
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/18/2023, 9:10 AM
Given this one's reception, they'd better hope an Ant-Man 4 gets to be at all.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/18/2023, 11:01 AM
@DrReedRichards -


There will be a part 4 but it will be so small that we won't be able to see it.



Thank God🤝😑
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/18/2023, 12:49 PM
@DrReedRichards - I feel whatever the Fantastic 4 ends up being will take the place of the Ant Man series. The whole family dynamic and storied themes to me would probably be quite similar. I feel the characters will show up again in another project or somthing where more than likely Hank or Janet or both will die.

There won't be an Ant-Man 4 in this current MCU. That's my opinion at least.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 2/18/2023, 1:24 PM
@DrReedRichards - if it makes more than the last 2 It will 100% be made
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/18/2023, 1:48 PM
@UniqNo - I need Pym and Reed working together at some point.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/18/2023, 2:32 PM
@UniqNo -

I agree that there probably won't be another Ant-Man movie, and I've also discussed this F4 approach in the past with Corndog. Especially in this movie, which is a F4 in every way, from the family dynamic to the sci-fi exploration, all the way to the negative reception if you wanna go full meta.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/18/2023, 2:58 PM
@DrReedRichards - haha that's true.

I like the rumours I'm hearing though about them already being sort of established l with Reed and Sue also having kids.

I also heard that they may do some time play with them coming from the 70s or 80's so maybe some interaction with Pym and golden age aesthetics.

But they'll definitely fill the 'Ant-Man & Family' void.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/18/2023, 9:14 AM
I just got out of seeing it..

While I don't think it's as bad as Thor 4, it's definitely continuing the decline in quality from Marvel.

I feel their filmmaking is becoming lazy and generic. And boy did they miss the mark with MODOK. Not to much down to the actor, but the dialogue and the VFX...URGH.

anyway, Majors, Pheifer and Rudd are the only reason this movie was partially entertaining.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 2/18/2023, 9:15 AM
Possibly watching it this weekend. Antman 4 of course. Possibly watching Ant-man 4 this weekend.
KWilly
KWilly - 2/18/2023, 9:26 AM
I don't need an Ant Man 4. Really don't. Didn't hate Ant Man 3 or anything, it was decent. But I think it's time to put this franchise to rest other than Avengers feature spots
DoubleD
DoubleD - 2/18/2023, 9:42 AM
Little Perspective at the box office.

Iron-Man 319 million domestic, 266 million international and 585 million worldwide.

Iron-Man 2 did 312 million domestic, 311 million international and 623 million worldwide.

Captain America First Avenger 176 million domestic, 193 international and 370 million worldwide.

Winter Soldier 259 million domestic, 454 million international and 714 million worldwide.

Antman 180 million domestic, 339 million international and 519 million worldwide.

Antman & Wasp 216 domestic, 406 million international and 622 million worldwide.

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania at the box office heading to be the best of the 3 Ant-Man movies.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/18/2023, 11:28 AM
@DoubleD - the movie still sucks lol this will see a 70% drop next week, you act like money makes something good lol also you're examples mean nothing
IronMan616
IronMan616 - 2/18/2023, 12:20 PM
@DoubleD - not even comparable. Iron Man 1 and 2, Cap, Thor, etc. came out at a time when movie ticket prices were half of what they are now and where those characters were relative unknowns to the GA.

Ant-Man 3 is coming out post Endgame where everyone knows who Ant-Man is. Even if this does get a decent opening weekend, expect it to have a terrible drop. And if it does early MCU type numbers, it will be considered a bomb.
DoubleD
DoubleD - 2/18/2023, 12:43 PM
@IronMan616 - Batman the Dark Knight came out same year as Iron-Man 2008 and did 534 million domestic, 471 international and 1006 billion worldwide.

Avatar came out 2009 year later and did 2.8 billion worldwide.

It's Ant-Man movies they were never supposed to compete with Avengers movies or Endgame just introduce the chacters.
IronMan616
IronMan616 - 2/18/2023, 1:10 PM
@DoubleD - what characters did Ant-Man introduce? Modok? Every character in there has already been introduced. Plus Ant-Man is known world wide due to Endgame.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/18/2023, 3:06 PM
@DoubleD -
"Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania at the box office heading to be the best of the 3 Ant-Man movies."

It'll open strong due to the desperately forced marketing push by Disney - but the backlash is stronger. Word of mouth is so negative that we could see a 70%+ drop off during the next week meaning this may not even finish with more than Ant-Man 2.

Even so, this movie realistically cost around $200m-$250m. They are hiding the real figure but this film is primarily CGI which is extremely costly. It's very unlikely this movie makes as much profit as Ant-Man which had a budget of around $150m or Ant-man 2 which had a buget around $175m.

Factoring in inflation of ticket prices, it also means that even if it earned around $700m (which is very unlikely) it'd still have less of an audience than Ant-Man 2.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/18/2023, 9:44 AM
I thought the movie was enjoyable/fine, but it wasn't the grand epic they made it out to be. It felt like all the other antman movies to me
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2023, 9:51 AM
I'm beginning to notice a pattern, where actors will turn on the direction of their film after having a poor reception. Same thing happened with Chris Hemsworth, where he implied a lot about waititi after the poor reception of love and thunder.

I'm genuinely curious what's going on bts of marvel. Like, we're these actors always happy with the directions of these films? Is this what rudd genuinely feels, or is he just trying to gain favor by distancing himself from the premise?
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/18/2023, 9:59 AM
@Origame - You can tell they are contractually obligated to make them.
I was watching an interview with Douglas and Pfeiffer recently, and they look so...miserable. And its sad because Michael looked pretty happy when promoting the first movie, and now he is like "I'm tired, just let me go, Mickey Mouse".
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/18/2023, 11:03 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - The promotional tours are what actors hate the most. It's long hours of losing sleep and constant time zone changes being asked the same questions over and over. Imagine only getting 2 hours of sleep on a 12 hour flight to have to go do 15 interviews at a hotel in the span of 6 hours?
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/18/2023, 12:23 PM
@Origame - I posted my comment then I read yours. I said something similar.
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 2/18/2023, 3:26 PM
@Origame - life is so rough for these millionaires
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/19/2023, 2:27 AM
@Origame - Yeah,

I think that Hemsworth and Rudd are now on a picture to picture deal though and no longer those lengthy multi picture ones. So they're probably able to be more open and honest not really caring anymore.

I can imagine shooting their latest movies mostly on the volume and green screen became a bore and probably would be happy to be killed off now.
Origame
Origame - 2/19/2023, 8:22 AM
@UniqNo - after seeing the movie, I could see that being the original way the movie ended.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/19/2023, 8:33 AM
@Origame - I had another thought on the movie's ending.


You could clearly feel that Ant-Man was intended to stay behind which would have left hope for an antman 4, but they probably saw how bad it was looking and reshot the ending with them returning to not leave that thread dangling..thus ending their Ant-Man franchise.. like I said I feel the character will show up again but not in another Antman movie.

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