ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Director Breaks Down Post-Credits Scenes And Confirms [SPOILER]'s Identity

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Director Breaks Down Post-Credits Scenes And Confirms [SPOILER]'s Identity

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania director Peyton Reed has broken down both of the movie's post-credits scene, confirming the identity of at least one of those Variants. Find more details after the jump!

By JoshWilding - Feb 25, 2023 07:02 AM EST
Source: Entertainment Tonight

At the end of Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, Kang the Conqueror is kicked into his Multiverse engine and seemingly obliterated. However, driving home the fact that this villain is nowhere near defeated is a mid-credits scene that introduces us to an entire Council of Kangs. 

During a recent interview with Entertainment Tonight, director Peyton Reed shed some light on what that sequence was attempting to convey. 

"We knew we wanted to sort of just give a tiny taste of the potential of what some of these Kang variants are and brief nods to [Pharaoh] Rama-Tut, [Scarlet] Centurion, Immortus," the filmmaker said, refusing to confirm or deny whether those are the "Prime" Variants of Kang. "Maybe they're variants of those versions."

There's been a lot of speculation about which Kang joined Rama-Tut and Immortus in that stinger, but these comments confirm it's a take on Scarlet Centurion (albeit with a very different costume to his comic book counterpart). 

Reed goes on to describe Rama-Tut as "this sort of ancient Egyptian version in the comics...but then we sort of bent [him] up a little bit and made him this very strange sort of bionic variant of Rama-Tut."

"We wanted to give three distinct feelings," he continues, "and set up the idea of this triumvirate inside this sort of star chamber and now that Kang the Conqueror has met the fate he meets at the end of this movie, 'What does it mean for the larger sort of political body of Kangs, right?'"

"What happens in the sort of Godfather type thing of this power struggle of 'Well, why was he, you know, in the movie?' We revealed that he was exiled into the Quantum Realm and why and who did it. But [we] sort of starting to get into sort of the political aspect of how the Kangs relate to each other, which I think holds really strong potential for Phase Five."

As for the post-credits scene with Loki and Mobius encountering Victor Timely, Reed confirmed he didn't shoot that because it's "actually a cut-down version of a scene from season 2 of Loki."

"It really was to sort of tease the audience with the idea of like, 'In Phase Five, you're going to meet a lot of different variants.'"

It's clear Reed is choosing his words carefully here and several interviews have been published over the past 24 hours with both him and writer Jeff Loveness. None of them really address our many unanswered questions, though, and that's either because Marvel Studios wants to keep us in the dark for now or they simply don't know where this Multiverse Saga is heading!

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is currently playing in theaters.

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WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 2/25/2023, 7:16 AM
"It really was to sort of tease the audience with the idea of like, 'In Phase Five, you're going to meet a lot of different variants.' I can not express with words just how extremely uninteresting this sounds. Like, just writing this and thinking about it has me incredibly bored already.

I am not hopeful for MCU future at all and I'm checking out now. Until they prove that they actually care about the stories and characters as much as the audience does I won't be coming back. Such a waste of potential :(
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 2/25/2023, 9:30 AM
@WarMonkey - Yeah, I was really hoping that the ONE Kang we met in Ant Man would be the one that was the major threat. Dealing with a different Kang in each movie/show just doesnt sound interesting to me. It was so disappointing when Ant Man was able to defeat Kang. We are supposed to believe he is some Thanos level threat and Antman beats him?! That movie would have been infinitely more interesting if the hero actually lost and was trapped in the quantum realm again while Kang escaped.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/25/2023, 9:55 AM
@Shivermetimbers - kang wasn’t connected to time, which is his ultimate weapon. Him losing made sense because with tech, he’s just a man.

Loki season 1 actually encapsulated this really well and is the blueprint for this death. When he who remains knew what was coming, Loki nor sylvie could touch him. Once he didn’t know what was coming to him he died from a single blade to the stomach and he beat every kang there was.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 2/25/2023, 11:37 AM
@MyCoolYoung - Yeah I get that, but I am saying i wish that they didn't write it so that it turned out that way. They have made Kang less intimidating buy having this happen to even one of his variants. This was the variant they should have kept. He was interesting.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/25/2023, 12:36 PM
@Shivermetimbers - but isn’t the thing about kangs is that they’re always reborn? Maybe he’s timely. I think putting him in the quantum realm did suck because you took away his best quality, but he did takeover the whole realm and everyone feared him.

I thought he should’ve won in the end because last be honest, kang is too OP. No one should beat him ever. Kang, magneto, and Ultron are 3 people that theoretically should never lose
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 2/25/2023, 2:20 PM
@Shivermetimbers - I want to watch your movie idea, that sounds interesting!
xfan320
xfan320 - 2/25/2023, 7:21 AM
Yeah, I believe Kang is a good villain, but I think the general audience is kinda ready to move this storyline into overdrive now. I think Loki season 2 and perhaps one more minor part in a movie/show before the Kang Dynasty wraps everything up sounds narratively appropriate.
Repian
Repian - 2/25/2023, 7:30 AM
I think the Multiverse is "corrupted" by Kang's multiple variants and the only solution is to win the Secret Wars, destroying the multiverse while the "earth's mightiest heroes" are safe in the Citadel at the End of Time.

Then, in the new, unique and sacred time line, the X-Men of the MCU will emerge.
LordHarryLatts
LordHarryLatts - 2/25/2023, 7:56 AM
Kang really is going to destroy the MCU, although not in the way Marvel intended. There's no way they can think this phase is going to succeed. We're one movie in and Beyonder Iang seems like a terrible, terrible idea.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/25/2023, 8:40 AM
@LordHarryLatts - What's the Beyonder lang?
I've heard the rumors Kang is supposed to "become" the Beyonder, which sounds like a terrible idea to me.
LordHarryLatts
LordHarryLatts - 2/25/2023, 8:45 AM
@Feralwookiee - it was supposed to be Beyonder Kang...bring back the edit button.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/25/2023, 9:00 AM
But the real question is

Which one is the Kangest Kang?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/25/2023, 9:35 AM
They made Immortus and Rama-Tut look very comic book-y, so I wonder why Centurion wasn't just scarlet then. Just felt kinda off, even if it was a variant
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 2/25/2023, 10:01 AM
Yeah… the MCU has gotten really sub-par in all of their releases. The fanboys eat it up regardless of how mediocre it’s getting.

The reality is, Disney in general has become lackluster with their ridiculous increase in output. Instead of their releases being an event, it’s now an onslaught of never-ending media - knocking you unconscious, and kicking you into a pulp while you’re down…. Then dog piling and covering you with a mountain of more

They need to prioritize quality over quantity. Get rid of all the needless woke, political BS in their stuff while they’re at it too
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 2/25/2023, 10:03 AM
Sidenote: Josh says the screenwriter “doesn’t answer any of our questions”. But what questions is he talking about exactly?

Would have been insightful to say what exactly he was looking for…
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 2/25/2023, 3:34 PM
All the MCU is dead guys are coming back around I see.

How long will they last this time?
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 2/25/2023, 9:05 PM
OT: have no fear my peeps. Quantumania is pretty frikkin good so far. Alright, done peeing. I text and pee with the same hand. Pretty big phone but there’s plenty of room. That’s right. Quantumpenia.
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 2/25/2023, 9:24 PM
I found an article on the 38 Versions of Marvel’s Kang the Conqueror, Ranked by Power.

https://www.comicbasics.com/every-version-of-marvels-kang-the-conqueror-ranked-by-power/
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/25/2023, 11:25 PM
Best thing Feige can do is do a major overhaul of the writers room, bring in actual comic writers and fans of the property instead of all these liberal social justice warriors
AvalonX
AvalonX - 2/26/2023, 12:09 AM
Kang is my favorite villain. I think the Kang Dynasty scene was too soon. What made that cool in the MCU was Kang was a villain (singular) forever. Im trying to see if this Conquerer variant is anything special to justify how Antman ended.

If you rewatch HWR. He refers to the original version as a variant and a scientist. That would be Kang prime if it was the comics. He also refers to this scientist as he found Alioth but says "I" weaponized it. This implies HWR isn't the first version of Kang.

It could be Antman Kang who is either the HWR or the Beyonder. I am NOT in love with Kang/Beyonder especially if Doom isn't involved but it does look like a way to wrap everything up with either and all powerful Kang pulling whats left of the incurrsions into battleworld or/and the leftover variants ruling over their parts of Battleworld (which I also don't like).

Kang is cool because of the time travel but thats like the one thing he isn't doing in the MCU.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 2/26/2023, 8:44 AM
Yeah this movie wasnt good. The Kang stuff could be cool though but they need some better writing.
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 2/26/2023, 1:59 PM
We need actual comic writers Feige!!!
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 2/26/2023, 2:17 PM
Yea, yea, wake me up when Wolverine shows up on the big screen again.
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