ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Director On Decision Not To Include Fan-Favorites Like Michael Peña's Luis

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Director On Decision Not To Include Fan-Favorites Like Michael Peña's Luis

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania primarily takes place in the Quantum Realm, and director Peyton Reed has now explained the decision not to bring back the franchise's fan-favourite supporting characters.

By JoshWilding - Feb 22, 2023 10:02 AM EST
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

The Ant-Man franchise has always been a lot of fun, but Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania appears to be a rare misfire for Marvel Studios. Tied with Eternals as the MCU's lowest-rated movie on Rotten Tomatoes, it's been a bigger hit with fans, but still struggled to live up to expectations. 

One common criticism revolves around the lack of time the threequel spends on Earth. After a brief opening (which includes a wordless cameo from one Ant-Man and The Wasp supporting character), the heroes are sent into the Quantum Realm, leaving no room for the likes of Luis and Kurt.

David Dastmalchian gets to play a newly created CG character called Zub, but Michael Peña and his memorable recaps of past events are nowhere to be found. 

Talking to The Hollywood Reporter, Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania director Peyton Reed offered an explanation for the absence of Scott Lang's friends. 

"There were no versions of this movie [with Luis]," the filmmaker confirms. "There are a lot of characters in the movie. We obviously have our Lang, van Dyne and Pym family, but then we also introduced Kang, MODOK and all of our Freedom Fighter characters."

"So we had to make decisions early on about what stories we could tell and what stories we couldn’t tell. I love those characters. They were really, really fun and part of the Lang family, but as we got further and further into [development] and knew we wanted to bring the family into the Quantum Realm pretty early in the movie, it just didn’t make sense [to include Luis and co.]."

Reed's explanation adds up, but it's still a shame to think there wasn't room for at least a scene or two with people who have previously been portrayed as an incredibly important part pf Scott's life. There may be more at play here - perhaps Peña didn't want to continue playing the character - but at least we know now not to expect deleted scenes with him and Kurt!

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is currently playing in theaters. 

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/22/2023, 10:44 AM
Luis recapping what happened during the snap would have been gold, lazy asses
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/22/2023, 10:46 AM
@bobevanz - also the freedom fighter characters could have been trimmed or cut entirely, spent more time in the monologue with the characters that made the first two tolerable! Aye carumba
mountainman
mountainman - 2/22/2023, 10:56 AM
@bobevanz - For the most part, Marvel hasn’t touched that 5 year gap. It seems like some really interesting stories could have been told there.
Origame
Origame - 2/22/2023, 11:43 AM
@mountainman - imagine if that's when black widow was set...
mountainman
mountainman - 2/22/2023, 11:45 AM
@Origame - That would have made a ton of sense. There is no reason that story couldn’t have been told there. It didn’t have to be between Civil War and Infinity War.

In fact, it could have even added MORE gravitas to Natasha’s death by taking place between IW and Endgame. It seems like she was stepping up into a leadership role and doing great things during those years.
mountainman
mountainman - 2/22/2023, 11:46 AM
@Origame - And you then avoid the very nonsensical ending with Ross.
dragon316
dragon316 - 2/22/2023, 3:07 PM
@bobevanz - would have been entertaining to see
Slotherin
Slotherin - 2/22/2023, 3:51 PM
@mountainman - I agree.. there's a lot that can be done with the 5 year span. They've also been sleeping on the Raft.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/22/2023, 10:46 AM
Tbh they could’ve done what they did with zub

Just make all 3 of them new people in the quantum realm but they serve the same function
mountainman
mountainman - 2/22/2023, 10:47 AM
I would take a Luis-focused Disney + special presentation over Ironheart, Echo and Agatha. At least he is likable and entertaining.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/22/2023, 3:24 PM
@mountainman - lol i agree. i kinda want to see the agatha show but it's not needed... this and a Wong spin on special would be awesome
mountainman
mountainman - 2/22/2023, 3:33 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Out of those three Agatha is likely the one I’d enjoy the most. Echo should have just been a character in the Daredevil show and there was nothing about Ironheart in BP2 that would make me want to see more from her.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/23/2023, 9:51 AM
@mountainman - agreed on all of it. Ironheart was annoying in BP2 and i really don't want to see more of her unless they change how she is, which i don't see happening
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 2/22/2023, 10:49 AM
I love Michael Peña. This guy could do it all. Sure he's good in the silly comedies and I love him in those too but

Fury
End Of Watch

are two of my favorite movies and he was awesome in them.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 2/22/2023, 10:58 AM
@WEAPONXOXOXO -
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/22/2023, 11:22 AM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - I do look forward to seeing him in Jack Ryan Season 4 as well (and that rumoured spin-off)
Slotherin
Slotherin - 2/22/2023, 3:52 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - I love that movie.. I can't believe I forgot he was in it.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/22/2023, 10:50 AM
Would love a 30 minute short about what he is up to or a 5 minute video connecting the multiverse saga for general audiences 😎
DannRamm113
DannRamm113 - 2/22/2023, 10:55 AM
Honestly, a version of this movie where it’s: Scott, Cassie, Janet, Luis, and Jimmy Woo in the quantum realm would have been so much better
Repian
Repian - 2/22/2023, 11:01 AM
I would watch a Disney+ short film about "X-Con Security Consultants" with Keegan-Michael Key replacing T.I.

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/22/2023, 11:23 AM
@Repian - same here. Key could even play a new guy, so that way Luis has a reason to recap everything that has happened so far
Slotherin
Slotherin - 2/22/2023, 3:53 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I'd take either one but if Key were to play TI's character, I would want them to hang a lampshade on it.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/22/2023, 4:56 PM
@Slotherin - that would be pretty funny, but I doubt they would go that far
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/22/2023, 11:07 AM
They missed him big time
hazapez
hazapez - 2/22/2023, 11:14 AM
so did they ever release the clip of michael peña recapping the infinity saga ?
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/22/2023, 11:22 AM
@hazapez - that should’ve been the whole intro to this movie
tluciotti74
tluciotti74 - 2/22/2023, 11:18 AM
84% audience score....stop talking about the reviewers not liking it on rotten tomatoes. If the people like it and they are paying to see it, it is not any kind of failure
supermanrex
supermanrex - 2/22/2023, 12:42 PM
@tluciotti74 - exactly my dude.these clowns on here want to really death wish comic book movies. the critics have an agenda i get that. they want Scorsese films back on top. but fans of the genre constantly shit talking anything that comes out now from anything is getting old. i come here to have fun and compare notes. instead its just one long battle of trying to put common sense and into stupid offhanded edgy negative comments. majority of which coming from clowns who haven't even seen the movie.
LSHF
LSHF - 2/23/2023, 12:17 AM
@supermanrex - I block them. Most of the comments I read now are positive.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/22/2023, 11:19 AM
A missed opportunity for better comedy
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 2/22/2023, 11:19 AM
"Okay, so I was at this equestrian event down in West Palms with my niece Camila 'cause she's all about those little ponys and they serve this great red and you know I'm all about those reds, when my boy Marco showed up on a beautiful Arabian number named Azzam, and he tells me that his girl Beth told him that her boy Steve who I never met but works for the restaurant that Julio cooks for said that just the other day a guy with a weird nose and a dude with a horn hat kept talking about jet skis and he told Beth, who told Marco to tell me to tell you to look into that hat. Oh yeah, Happy Birthday Cass. Good cake."
TvloverSA
TvloverSA - 2/22/2023, 11:18 PM
@Reeds2Much - wow such a missed opportunity, good movie just felt like it missed something it's a great build up that looks like will have a great payoff in the kang dynasty but for now it killed a bit of the Antman charm.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 2/22/2023, 12:11 PM
Oh well. I never even thought of the Luis character the whole time I was watching Quantumania.

If they do a 4th film I'm sure he'll be back.

Though I doubt T.I. will be back since he sounds like a sick [frick].
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