RUMOR: Marvel "Worried" About AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY, SECRET WARS After Negative THE ELECTRIC STATE Reviews

RUMOR: Marvel "Worried" About AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY, SECRET WARS After Negative THE ELECTRIC STATE Reviews

The Electric State has received overwhelmingly negative reviews since launching on Netflix, and a new rumour suggests Marvel Studios is now concerned about the Russos helming the next Avengers movies...

By JoshWilding - Mar 21, 2025 12:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Marvel Studios hasn't had the disastrous few years some would have you believe but the Multiverse Saga has been undeniably hit-and-miss. 

For a time, Kevin Feige appeared to be going all in on Rick and Morty writers shaping the post-Infinity Saga MCU. Jeff Loveness was tapped to write Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, while Michael Waldron looked set to take charge of Avengers: Secret Wars

Fans and critics alike didn't appreciate Loveness' work on Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania. Waldron's approach to the Scarlet Witch in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness also wasn't well-received (we later learned his contributions to Loki season 1 were overstated). 

With that, Feige took a different approach and turned to the Russo Brothers. The filmmakers delivered four critical and commercial hits with Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame.

They also needed Marvel as much as the studio needed them as their non-MCU work hasn't been hugely successful. 

While some AGBO-produced features were a success - Extraction and Everything Everywhere All at Once, for example - Joe and Anthony's projects as directors haven't been. Cherry and The Gray Man drew mixed-to-negative reviews but The Electric State has been panned. 

Sitting at 15% on Rotten Tomatoes, it's been called "slop" and, based on unofficial viewing figures, is far from a hit for Netflix. 

While we'd advise taking this with a pinch of salt, scooper @MyTimeToShineH is reporting, "I hear Feige and Marvel are getting worried after seeing how bad The Electric State is and are starting to reconsider whether rehiring the Russos was a mistake." 

Avengers: Doomsday begins shooting in a matter of weeks, with Avengers: Secret Wars set to begin production right after. It's too late to swap the Russos out for anyone else, meaning Marvel Studios has to rely on them to recapture the same magic they delivered in their previous MCU movies.

They'll be joined by writer Stephen McFeely; he penned both movies, this time without regular writing partner Christopher Markus. 

"It’s the simple fact of opportunity really," Markus recently said of why he declined an MCU return. "When we started AGBO, part of the imperative was let’s look for things to adapt, ideas of our own. And by luck or preference, I wound up with a whiteboard full of things—two series of books that we had optioned, a spec script about three or four other ideas and a TV pilot that was there to be written."

"And this was prior to all that 'Avenging' coming on the horizon. But it got to the point where it was like, 'Look, I need to grow these plants or they’re going to die,' And [Marvel] is very extremely full-time."

"And so, I just said, 'Let’s just everybody be under the understanding that this is what I’m doing because [those movies] need a brain on them." he continued. "They need a guide and I love them.' So, when it came Avenging time—I mean, you don’t Avenge part-time, you don’t do anything Marvel part-time. That is a years-long commitment."

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027. 

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/21/2025, 12:17 PM
How the [frick] would they know this fast, and how the [frick] would anybody say it out loud to someone who knows this goof..
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/21/2025, 12:30 PM
@bobevanz - She was probably speaking out loud to herself "Gee I'll bet Marvel's having second thoughts about hiring the Russos right about now..." and then she'd tweet that she heard it some from someone. Sure she heard from someone. Her damn self!
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 1:57 PM
@bobevanz -

It's very possible.

And we all know it.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/21/2025, 2:20 PM
@bobevanz - this is what's known as a fake scoop.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 3/21/2025, 12:18 PM
I was honestly wondering how they were asked back initially...Gray Man and Cherry weren't really bad though. Haven't seen Electric State, and probably won't be checking it out anytime soon.

I do appreciate that the Russos have long loved Secret Wars, so I do have faith in them.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 3/21/2025, 12:35 PM
@ThorArms - I haven’t seen Cherry yet. I did like Gray Man as a piece of entertainment. Gosling and Evans were a lot of fun.

Electric isn’t very good. Probably not 15% consensus bad but it’s pretty uninspired.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 3/21/2025, 12:55 PM
@thedrudo - Yeah, I didn't think Electric State was 15% bad, but it was just kind of bland. The comedic moments didn't really land early on. Wasn't sure if it was a writing or acting issue. I mostly enjoyed Gray Man too.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 3/21/2025, 1:09 PM
@ThorArms - electric state wasn't horrible but yeah like these guys say it was a little bland. I ended up hitting that skip 10 seconds a few time to get thru a scene or two. Pratt just acts like star lord and Millie is just not the best actress in my opinion. She is great in stranger things as the damped personality from her science lab upbringing in that but she's acting about the same in electric state which doesnt work. Pratt's robot friend is entertaining enough but he's really the only good one. the villains aren't great.

I like grey man enough but I think that's mainly because Evans was entertaining as a villain, I did think the movie was missing something but could put my finger on it. Havent seen cherry. either way im sure the Russo's will have plenty of support for doomsday so im sure it will be a decent movie. Im just still not on board with RDJ as doom but hey maybe they'll surprise me
thedrudo
thedrudo - 3/21/2025, 2:17 PM
@NonPlayerC - This was one project where I kept asking myself whether Millie was talented or not.

I like Pratt a lot but like he admitted - he’s playing variations of the same character over and over again. So far it’s worked best as Star-Lord personally.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 3/21/2025, 3:53 PM
@thedrudo - Yeah I find him very entertaining when he's placed right with a good supporting cast but millie was not it. He's pretty much been the same lovable goof with varying levels of intelligence since parks and rec which is fine. Plenty of actors aren't great at acting they just have a certain charisma that works. The rock is the same in everything but makes it entertaining (except when he's based on a set character, cough* black atom, ahem*. same with mark walbergh, Keanu Reeves, Jason statham, and plenty others. Its actually very few popular actors that seem to embody different people
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/21/2025, 3:56 PM
@ThorArms -
"how they were asked back initially"
They were asked back solely because they did Infinity War and Endgame and people recognized the names, in the same way people recognized RDJ. These decisions were made in a panic after the collapse of the Kang Dynasty situation and knowing that they needed something to reassure fans so they went with memorable names as opposed to proven quality.

Looking back, Infinity War still holds up but Endgame is a mess of writing and even the directing is awful during the visually messy final battle - compare it to Civil War and the difference is night and day. Plus the Russo's always forget the surroundings exist during battle, you can have two characters fighting in a war and there's nothing happening around them - no background fighting, no sounds of conflict.

"long loved Secret Wars"

The Russo's were a fan of Secret Wars 1984/1985.

The movie is based on Secret Wars 2015.

As much as they appreciate the original story, what they are making is a departure from what they are invested in.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 3/21/2025, 4:05 PM
@Scarilian - "The movie is based on Secret Wars 2015"

Where did you get this info? Everything I have seen is there will be elements from both and it isn't solely based on one over the other.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/21/2025, 5:29 PM
@ThorArms -
Secret Wars 1984/1985 is the one fans want to see, it featured everyone being teleported to Battleworld for a massive fight to the death due to the Beyonder, an individual with immense power who wants to see everyone fight simply because he wants to observe them fighting. It had Avengers, Fantastic Four, Mutants and a bunch of returning villains, cameos all having their own factions and battling. Eventually as heroes and villains die off, Doctor Doom steals the power of the Beyonder creating a massive tower and then slaughters everyone until he ends up tricked by the Beyonder into reviving them all. At which point the Beyonder sends everyone home... with Ben Grimm wishing to stay and explore Battleworld more.

Secret Wars 2015 involes a few heroes confronting The Beyonders, a group of higher-dimensional aliens who want to destroy the multiverse. They fail pretty quickly and the final Incursion caused by the Beyonders involves two universes crashing into each other. A bunch of heroes survive in an escape pod but awake in a reality, where they've lost their memory, created by Doctor Doom - Battleworld. Our heroes interact with countless different versions of themselves such as the Thor Corps, fight zombies and team-up with Thanos. Doctor Doom has his own warped versions of the heroes as his subordinates and has also enslaved some of the heroes to do his bidding, one of these subordinates Sheriff Strange ends up betraying Doctor Doom to help the heroes and is killed by Doom as a result. The heroes hold a funeral and eventually unite, cameos ensue, and siege Castle Doom. It's revealed that Franklin, Reed's Son, is actually Doctor Doom's Son resulting in a fight between Doctor Doom and Mr Fantastic. Mr Fantastic wins because he gets Doom to admit he stole Mr Fantastic's life because he's a loser cuck who is sad about his face - so his powers get transferred to Mr Fantastic who then reboots the multiverse and restores Doctor Doom's face as he pitys him, allows for certain characters to be incorporated into the main universe and The Fantastic Four remain outside of the newly created reality.

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All the concept art we've seen so far hints to an adaptation of Secret Wars 2015. They could take aspects from 1984/1985 as both stories share some elements but Secret Wars 2015 is already complicated enough as it is in terms of characters - especially when we've not encountered a lot of them before. The notion of establishing countless variations of characters and trying to develop and get us to care about them is going to be tricky, especially when the characters they already have are not developed.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/21/2025, 12:21 PM
they phucked fat thor
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/21/2025, 12:31 PM
@harryba11zack - at the same time?
NickScryer
NickScryer - 3/21/2025, 12:21 PM
It appears they are just not very good directors. Gray Man was a painfully generic waste of money. Cherry was meh.

MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 1:57 PM
@NickScryer -

Civil War and Endgame were disappointing.
OmegaEffect
OmegaEffect - 3/21/2025, 3:26 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - civil war was good imo. But Kevin made the russos change cap 3 to civil war. I don't think it was in their original plan.So given that somebody made them change their vision, I thought he did pretty well. I agree with you on endgame. For me marvel direction changed after infinity war
AnEye
AnEye - 3/21/2025, 12:21 PM
Ehhhhh, I doubt that. You mean to tell me that Feige never watched anything of Electric State before he hired them back?

Come on now.

This scooper acts like there is big list of directors who are just begging to direct Avengers 5 & 6! There was no one else for the job and Marvel knows it. Especially since they already know how to handle a large blockbuster production.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/21/2025, 12:33 PM
@AnEye - At this stage in the game, Avengers 5 and 6 are a risk no matter who directs them. The Russos are probably the safest possible choice after sticking the landing so well the first time.
AnEye
AnEye - 3/21/2025, 12:55 PM
@ObserverIO - Exactly. There is no director or director duo that is going to shoot two films back to back on a large budget with an ensemble cast literally weeks before filming which the cast most likely has not worked with before.

WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/21/2025, 2:51 PM
@AnEye - “There was no one else for the job and Marvel knows it.”. I agree 100%.
It’s not like Tarantino is asking to do one. They possibly could’ve gotten Spielberg but he would’ve taxed them so much that the return would’ve been very minimal. Coogler is pretty busy promoting Sinners and getting Black Panther 3 on track. I can’t think of anybody else other than the Russo’s who’d be a safe bet.
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 3/21/2025, 12:23 PM
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Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 3/21/2025, 12:24 PM
LET IT ALL BURN!
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Lisa89
Lisa89 - 3/21/2025, 12:24 PM
Just leave out Star-Lord. Problem solved. ;)
BreakTheCode
BreakTheCode - 3/21/2025, 12:24 PM
Can this site please stop reporting on everything this fraud posts? This site has really gone the tubes in recent years. Would rather post every clickbaity garbage rumor than have any shred of journalistic integrity.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 1:59 PM
@BreakTheCode -

If it will help Disney suffer financially, I'm for it.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 3/21/2025, 7:42 PM
@BreakTheCode - fraud... Lulz 😂😂
I share your enthusiasm.

Nolanite out
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/21/2025, 12:26 PM
I'd be more worried about what comes after. The future of this franchise depends on a clean reboot.

Besides Electric State was... eehhhhh it was alright. I had fun. It was like an '80s family film. The kind that flops at the cinema and then becomes a cult classic. Like Labyrinth.

Except you know what the plot kinda reminded me of more than anything? [frick]ing Cherry 3000. Anyone remember that flick?
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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 2:01 PM
@ObserverIO -

Yep, the MCU needs a reboot in a different reality.

I remember a little of Cherry 3000. I didn't love it.
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 3/21/2025, 12:27 PM
Writing is on the wall folks

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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 2:04 PM
@BruceWayng -

🤝
SuperHeroFan1
SuperHeroFan1 - 3/21/2025, 12:28 PM
It would be a stretch to say they aren't good directors after the success of Infinity War and Endgame. I think it would be fairer to say maybe they aren't good and SOME types of movies (and that's if you don't consider that there are also the writers to consider. It isn't like the Rusos are writing the scripts (are they?).) Anyway, it's not a big concern to me if they didn't do well on that other movie or two. I'm more looking at how they did in the past with Marvel. I think they deserve to have the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Marvel.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 2:03 PM
@SuperHeroFan1 -

But it is deplorable and destructive Disney.

May Doomsday and Secret Wars flop.

Ironheart, Thunderbolts, Wonder Man, and Fantastic Four too.
defenderofthefaith
defenderofthefaith - 3/21/2025, 12:29 PM
More rumors. Lol. Enquiring minds want to know. And yes, I am borrowing that tagline from
movieguy18
movieguy18 - 3/21/2025, 12:31 PM
While critics have not been too kind to their recent movies, audiences enjoy them quite a bit. This rumor is completely untrue. Feige has faith in them and they know what they’re doing. They made 4 of the best MCU movies. Why not have faith in them?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 2:04 PM
@movieguy18 -

Some audiences.

Like the small number of people actually watching their non MCU movies.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 3/21/2025, 12:31 PM
Ill only be excited on the next Avengers movies if Joss Whedon handles them.

Replace the Russos while you still can Feige
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/21/2025, 2:04 PM
@vectorsigma -

🤝
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