AVENGERS: Here's The Latest On Whether DOOMSDAY And SECRET WARS Will Deal With Kang - Possible SPOILERS

While Marvel Studios has shifted focus to Doctor Doom for the remainder of the Multiverse Saga, we now have a small update on how Kang the Conqueror's absence could be handled in Doomsday and Secret Wars.

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By JoshWilding - Nov 25, 2024 09:11 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

We first met Kang's "He Who Remains" Variant at the end of Loki's first season. It was revealed that, following a Multiversal War, he was the last Kang standing and free to then create his own "Sacred Timeline" to rule over.

Having grown bored with an eternity trapped at the end of time, He Who Remains hoped Loki and Sylvie would take his place. Instead, the latter killed him, though we'd later learn it was all part of Kang's plan as he knew he'd be resurrected after the failing Time Loom destroyed the TVA and branching timelines (all while leaving the Sacred Timeline to thrive).

Loki refused to follow He Who Remains' path and instead created a new Multiverse powered by him, giving everyone free will and his friends at the TVA enough time to prepare for the war to come with Kang's Variants.

We met one in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania when it was revealed the Council of Kangs had trapped Kang the Conquerer - who was seemingly killed by the lead heroes - in the Quantum Realm due to the threat he posed to their plans. And, in Loki season 2's closing moments, the TVA briefly mentioned that they were keeping an eye on Kang's Variants.

Now you're up to speed, we're sure you'll agree that there are still a lot of stories to tell with the time-travelling villain. Instead, Jonathan Majors' legal issues and subsequent firing led Marvel Studios to rename Avengers: The Kang Dynasty as Avengers: Doomsday, swapping out Kang for Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom.

Similar to Eternals' cliffhanger, it seems we're meant to assume the TVA dealt with his Variants before they could start a war, leaving the Ant-Man threequel's post-credits scene and the villain's story largely unresolved.

According to reliable insider @Crypitc4KQual, "Last [I] reported, his role was gonna be diminished and it seems now they're aiming for no presence whatsoever. Most [we get] is a Kang namedrop."

A namedrop would go some way in satisfying fans, even if it's just to confirm that Doom wiped out the Council. Marvel Studios could choose to just move on from Kang and pretend he never existed, but that would be akin to forgetting Thanos after his Guardians of the Galaxy role and all that Infinity Stones set-up.

So, a disappointing update for the most part. Still, if you got this far, we have something else for you. In another X post, the insider has strongly hinted that there's been some movement on the Wolverine vs. Hulk project that was first rumoured to be in the works earlier this year.

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027.

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ObserverIO - 11/25/2024, 9:17 AM

He should be the villain of Young Avengers/Champions. If Ironheart is there instead of Iron Lad then just make her the younger version of Kang and cast an older black woman to play Kang.

Vigor - 11/25/2024, 9:34 AM

@ObserverIO - either ultron or kang for champions villain. Im all for that.

Have kang for the disney+ villain and have it wrap up the kang story line. Make have Cassie's familiarity with the Conqueror be the thread

Then when champions are a mature group, have them work with west coast avengers to take down Ultron for good

TheyDont - 11/25/2024, 9:38 AM

@ObserverIO - At this point it's like raping comic Kang's corpse

Urubrodi - 11/25/2024, 10:32 AM

@ObserverIO - Not only was Kang defeated by ants, now you want a bunch of kids to bully the guy XD

ObserverIO - 11/25/2024, 10:49 AM

@Urubrodi - Rather than the real Avengers, yes I think they're much better suited.

ObserverIO - 11/25/2024, 10:50 AM

@Vigor - Cassie's connection makes it perfect. Good call.

Urubrodi - 11/25/2024, 11:00 AM

@ObserverIO - I don't think Kang should be treated as a low tier villain... but since the MCU already turned him into one, then maybe it could work. I really enjoyed Kate Bishop in the Hawkeye series, bue when she singlehandedly defeated Kingpin, that bothered me. Some villains deserve some more respect than others. Unfortunately for Kang he lost his after being defeated by ants.

I personally always though Arcade (which is very underrated) would make for a great Young Avengers/Champions villain. You could have a Hunger Game type of movie with superheroes. Plus it could be used as an excuse to kill some of the worst ones...

ObserverIO - 11/25/2024, 11:07 AM

@Urubrodi - Arcade would make for a great movie. Always thought that. Such a great concept. One that's often used in horror movies though, but a Marvel version of that would be pretty cool. You're right though there'd have to be a body count.

TheVisionary25 - 11/25/2024, 9:21 AM

Man , that sucks if true but oh well…

I wish they just continued on with their story by recasting the character instead of abandoning him all together but I say that as someone who was enjoying that story so oh well.

I think we should have Doomsday open with the Council being wiped out by Doom , it would help establish him as a threat imo.

Vigor - 11/25/2024, 9:33 AM

@TheVisionary25 - I agree with you quite a bit. I'll say this does take some of the magic out of disney/mcu for me a little bit

TheVisionary25 - 11/25/2024, 9:35 AM

@Vigor - same

It just feels so unlike them since it’s so reactionary

bkmeijer1 - 11/25/2024, 9:54 AM

@TheVisionary25 - wanted to say the same thing about the Council being wiped out as a cold open. It takes care of Kangs and introduces Doom perfectly.

MG0019 - 11/25/2024, 9:31 AM

Just move on. No explanation needed.

To the general audience, the overblown Kang The Conqueror was killed by ants.

Lame end to a lame villain. Nobody is asking what happened to the dark elves from Thor. Same difference.

Vigor - 11/25/2024, 9:36 AM

@MG0019 - the thing is. Kang was just 1 variant. There were more variants to kang. And until the muktiverse saga concludes, the "kang threat" still exists as the TVA noted in loki season 2 finale

He's overshadowed by Doom and king Thanos and Maestro. So it's probably best i guess to forget him. I just always liked the villain and wished we had a clean send off

dragon316 - 11/25/2024, 11:01 AM

@MG0019 - never want him in movies he’s powerful in books he’s not powerful in movies be beat by ants in books thanos is more popular than kang and stronger if kang is that strong in books how is it kang is not always going after earth and avengers it’s always thanos kang nothing special to him like stilt man

AgentofSH1ELD - 11/25/2024, 9:38 AM

... He who no longer remains??
someone get a Dr. Evil gif in here...

JayLemle - 11/25/2024, 9:41 AM

I don't think most viewers will care if Kang is completely forgotten. The public spoke when they didn't go see Ant Man 3. With larger-scale and (arguably) more popular characters, there will have been enough time from 2023-2026 that we will have gotten Kang.

SATW42 - 11/25/2024, 9:46 AM

@JayLemle - I don't think you can say "people don't care about Kang, look at Ant-Man 3" when someone can counterpoint "people do care about Kang, look at Loki Season 2"

SATW42 - 11/25/2024, 9:45 AM

I've long maintained even before Doom was announced, that whatever the threat was, it should just wipe out the council of Kangs in one hit, let that be how they establish it as a threat, and just move on. I do think they should show it though, a random name drop and something happening off screen seems weird. I don't know how his deal with Disney was structured, but just show doom showing up outside the arena, and maybe cut to inside when all the kangs are showing up and screaming, and then hard cut to a massive explosion and back to doom.

Kang threat neutralized, Doom a badass, the end.

SethBullock - 11/25/2024, 9:46 AM

Lame.

MotherGooseUPus - 11/25/2024, 9:46 AM

to the GA when they even "name drop" Kang:

SheepishOne - 11/25/2024, 9:54 AM

I mean, you could retcon the anticipation a bit and just say he was built up to be the Ant-Man 3 villain. Doesn’t do the character justice, but I don’t think dropping him is as big of a deal as Thanos. Most of the MCU characters still have no idea who Kang is. It’s a thread you could drop for now and pick up down the road after Secret Wars.

bkmeijer1 - 11/25/2024, 9:56 AM

Kang only being namedropped would be kinda lame. He played his part as HWR, Kang and Timely, but some resolution would be nice. TVA just dealing with the council is too easy.

Think they should instead have the Council take the place of the Beyonders in Secret Wars. Doom swoops in, steals their power, and builds up Battleworld.

Jackraow21 - 11/25/2024, 10:07 AM

Wolverine vs Hulk could be awesome.

MuadDib - 11/25/2024, 10:14 AM

@Jackraow21 - Hard pass if it’s Hugh. If he continues on and on as Wolverine it feels eerily similar to Sony’s Spider-man less Spider Universe. In that the longer it continues the longer we’ll have to wait to see those characters done properly in the MCU.

Hugh was great when we had nothing, but he’s old news. He can’t keep playing the character for 20+ more years.

Hulk vs Wolverine sounds like a great place to introduce the new Wolverine. After all that’s where he was introduced.

We need to move away from the Fox verse, and lean into a newer fresher more accurate take done properly in the MCU.

Urubrodi - 11/25/2024, 10:34 AM

@Jackraow21 - That could have been a nice Special Presentation. Just a short story focused solely on that fight.

MuadDib - 11/25/2024, 10:08 AM

Idc, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I for one was looking forward to the whole Kang storyline and was a fan of Majors portrayal of the character.

At the very least I hope for a recasted variant to pop up in Secret Wars, give us some inkling of closure

marvel72 - 11/25/2024, 10:20 AM

Everything we saw of Majors as whatever variant of Kang was bad, he was terrible in Loki Season 2.

Urubrodi - 11/25/2024, 10:36 AM

@marvel72 - Wasn't a big fan of his portarayal in season 2 either, but I liked him in season 1 and Kang was the best thing about Ant-Man 3 (although that's a low bar), until he was defeated by ants.

dragon316 - 11/25/2024, 11:05 AM

@marvel72 - moment he gave news on social media he’s playing kang people where excited for him as Race swap choice to play kang I was never never excited for that character he seemed weak books make kang as strong as thanos as fans say he’s that strong how is it thanos always go after avengers in books not kang thanos have more battles with avengers than kang all together

LogansRazor - 11/25/2024, 10:32 AM

I think the biggest issue seems to be the contract with Majors, the rumor was he can only play Kang. So you can't ever show him on screen as anyone else. I would think an arrest would cancel the contract, but it doesn't seem like it.

Wolverine vs Hulk with the brown suit, rated R, 100% there!!

TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 11/25/2024, 11:00 AM

Honestly, they really need to just start James Bonding these characters.

Just recast Kang like they should have Black Panther after Boseman's passing.

The Kang stuff really should/needs to be resolved & not completely ignored. Even if it is just a visceral thing to show how much of a bad ass RJD's Doom is & F ucks Kang up on screen. It's better than nothing or a name drop. BUT, there is so much more they can do/get out of the Kang character by just recasting.

dragon316 - 11/25/2024, 11:08 AM

@TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - All true they recast Jim Rohdes don cheadle took over play war machine he’s 1 foot shorter to Jim Rohdes in comics and less muscle mass no one complained about his height and lack of muscle as fan cast

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AVENGERS: Here's The Latest On Whether DOOMSDAY And SECRET WARS Will Deal With Kang - Possible SPOILERS

While Marvel Studios has shifted focus to Doctor Doom for the remainder of the Multiverse Saga, we now have a small update on how Kang the Conqueror's absence could be handled in Doomsday and Secret Wars.

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Rumored To Feature The MCU Debut Of A "Well Known Marvel Character"

From A RICK AND MORTY Overload To Robert Downey Jr.'s Return - Charting The Multiverse Saga's Wild Evolution

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