Some Intriguing, Spoilery Rumors For AVENGERS: SECRET WARS, DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE, And More Have Surfaced

Some Intriguing, Spoilery Rumors For AVENGERS: SECRET WARS, DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE, And More Have Surfaced

We have a roundup of exciting Multiverse Saga reshoots to share with you today, including possible intel for Avengers: Secret Wars, Captain America: Brave New World, Deadpool & Wolverine, and more...

By JoshWilding - Mar 04, 2024 10:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

After middling reviews and lower-than-expected box office takings, Marvel Studios is looking to get the Multiverse Saga back on the right track. Only two more live-action projects are heading our way in 2024, with Deadpool & Wolverine and Agatha both on the horizon. 

The former is yet another Multiversal adventure and, if past reports are to be believed, one which sets the stage for the next Avengers movies. 

We've already heard rumblings that Logan star Dafne Keen might show up as an older X-23 in the threequel and, according to @ScarletWitchUpd, they've seen a CV confirming she is indeed part of the movie. The X account doesn't share any additional details for fear of getting that person in trouble, but we're hoping this means we'll see the now-19-year-old suit up as the female Wolverine from the comics. 

Back to the Avengers franchise, though, and scooper @MyTimeToShineH just dropped an intriguing piece of intel too. 

Apparently, "Hugh Jackman told Marvel he will return for Secret Wars but only if he'll get to interact with Tobey [Maguire] and [Robert Downey Jr.]." We doubt that's make or break for the actor (especially given the money he'll likely be offered to reprise the role of Wolverine), but, understandably, Jackman hopes to share the screen with two of his fellow superhero icons. 

Avengers: Secret Wars is still a ways off, but Captain America: Brave New World and Thunderbolts head our way in 2025. 

Daniel Richtman reports that the latter is now filming but, for some reason, doesn't expect us to catch sight of The Sentry for a while yet. As for Sam Wilson's return, Adamantium and Tiamut's remains (now dubbed "Celestial Island") are expected to remain key plot points after reshoots. 

Here's the latest, mostly familiar, piece of Deadpool & Wolverine promo art to do the rounds online this week as well:

Shawn Levy directs Deadpool & Wolverine, which stars Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Emma Corrin, Morena Baccarin, Rob Delaney, Leslie Uggams, Karan Soni, and Matthew Macfadyen. The movie is written by Ryan Reynolds & Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick & Zeb Wells & Shawn Levy.

The trades have confirmed that Jennifer Garner will reprise her role as Elektra, with Wesley Snipes, James Marsden, Famke Janssen, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Dafne Keen, Channing Tatum, Blake Lively and, as we mentioned above, even singer Taylor Swift among those rumoured to make an appearance. 

Kevin Feige, Ryan Reynolds, Shawn Levy and Lauren Shuler Donner produce with Louis D’Esposito, Wendy Jacobson, Mary McLaglen, Josh McLaglen, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, George Dewey, Simon Kinberg and Jonathon Komack Martin serving as executive producers.

Marvel Studios' Deadpool & Wolverine arrives in theaters on July 26.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/4/2024, 10:03 AM
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Nolanite
Nolanite - 3/4/2024, 10:22 AM
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bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/4/2024, 12:12 PM
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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/4/2024, 1:28 PM
@bobevanz - Are they calling it Part Three or Dune: Messiah?
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/4/2024, 10:05 AM
The Wolverine speaking for all of us!
Variant
Variant - 3/4/2024, 10:11 AM
@Doomsday8888 - I just watched the first episode of Twisted Metal last night. Actually not bad! I think because it positions itself as a comedy helps its cause. (I also grew up playing that game and all its sequels so I may be biased.)

Anyway, this gif will always be great and it just reminded me of his character in TM.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/4/2024, 11:19 AM
@Doomsday8888 - shoot. Let Jackman get his way. Marvel's lucky to have him. and we'd all love to see Laura and her reaction to LOGAN being alive.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/4/2024, 11:19 AM
@Variant - that show is EPICALLY good. I loved every second
mountainman
mountainman - 3/4/2024, 10:05 AM
Always loved the X-23 character. Her origin story is so crazy and back when she couldn’t control the pheromone impact on her, she was so dangerous.

Absolutely hate that she took on the Wolverine outfit and mantle. So dumb. Give me black and grey suit, ultra violent X-23 any day.
Jackraow21
Jackraow21 - 3/4/2024, 10:18 AM
@mountainman - Agree with all of this.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2024, 10:06 AM
Marvel is making their Wolverine problems bigger and bigger each time they use Hugh Jackman.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/4/2024, 10:08 AM
@BlackStar25 - Sad but true. They're recasting after SW, hope these recasts are well-made.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 3/4/2024, 10:13 AM
@BlackStar25 - We ain't even seen his performance in the one movie, and you're whining about Wilding's rumor mill.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2024, 10:13 AM
@BlackStar25 - I feel like it was already pretty well speculated atleast that he would be in Secret Wars but i get yah…

The more they use him , the harder it might be for some to accept anyone else in the role (especially since he’s been the only live action version so far)
Variant
Variant - 3/4/2024, 10:17 AM
@BlackStar25 - A very succinct yet potent way to describe it. And I agree. I love the MCU...but man are they taking us down a worrisome road.

My main concern is: How are we going to get the definitive MCU Wolverine when we're tying Fox properties into the mix beforehand?

I was excited to get Fox OUT so we could get MCU versions of these characters done properly. Like Captain American, Iron Man, etc. Marvel Studios gave us definitive versions of those characters for the live screen. And they were original with no baggage...

Doing a movie like this, can we still get an MCU X-Men team that is original without some weird multiversal shit tied to it?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2024, 10:21 AM
@Variant - the only route I can see so far is them doing a soft reboot in which one world merges together

Some things remain the same , some don’t such as mutants having already been here and thus we get new versions
Jackraow21
Jackraow21 - 3/4/2024, 10:23 AM
@Variant - The X-men films have always leaned heavily into alternate futures and timelines, in other words multiverse shit. So I don't really see the problem with it that some fans are making this out to be in their own minds. Most of the general audience doesn't care, and if they just fold the FOX actors into the MCU they'll go along with it as long as the movies are good. And then, after Secret Wars, if they do a soft reboot then I really don't think "letting go of Hugh" will be as hard for folks as some think it will be. He'll be in his early 60s by then. Getting a younger guy who can own the character from there on out, like Holland taking over as Spidey, won't be some controversial thing at that point. At least in my view. And I say that as a massive Hugh-verine stan too.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2024, 10:33 AM
@IAmAHoot - Huh? Didn't read the article. Just wrote down a thought I have been having lately.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2024, 10:41 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Yeah. Hell...Im enjoying more Hugh as Wolverine especially with Deadpool and Secret Wars coming. Just thinking a bit ahead tho...Makes me wonder if we have even seen MCU's version of the Xmen yet. Thought we did in The Marvels but.....not too sure anymore.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 3/4/2024, 10:45 AM
@BlackStar25 -
There will not be another Wolverine. Same as with Iron Man. He's kaput.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2024, 10:47 AM
@Goldboink - You think so? Cant imagine a X-men movie without Wolverine.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 3/4/2024, 10:51 AM
@BlackStar25 -
That's only because all of them so far have included Wolverine. Hard to imagine the Avengers without IM either but they are going to do it. Spewing out the same X-Men that Fox did isn't the best path forward.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2024, 10:56 AM
@Goldboink - maybe not immediately but I do think we’ll get their Logan down the line.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/4/2024, 11:21 AM
@Fogs - @BlackStar25

Um, no they're not. audiences love Jackman in the role.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 3/4/2024, 11:39 AM
@TheVisionary25 -
I think it's going to be a while. The overarching Marvel policy of not recasting major players will come into play. As very few people can imagine anyone but Jackman playing Logan I think it's a definite possibility that he is not recast in the foreseeable future unless Secret Wars is a complete reset, which I don't see happening.
Robby
Robby - 3/4/2024, 11:40 AM
@BlackStar25 - 🎯. Exactly
Fogs
Fogs - 3/4/2024, 11:51 AM
@lazlodaytona - If I got @BlackStar25's point, that's the problem. They're painting themselves in a corner reminding how Jackman is good in the role, making it more difficult for the GA to accept their eventual recast. Got it?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/4/2024, 12:51 PM
@BlackStar25 - Took 12 years before Wolverine was part of the X-men in the comics so...

...don't think they will wait that long, lol, but do think he won't be in the first film and allow Jean and Scott's relationship to not have a complication from the get go (even if they avoid the love triangle again won't even want to appear to be setting that up from the start again).

I do however suspect that he could end up in the second MCU iteration film one way or another unless they give him his own franchise or team at first (such as Alpha Flight for instance) and hold off till phase 9 for him crossing paths with them.

If they are gonna fast track any for inclusion of the new team it will more likely to be one or more later female recruits so Jean isn't the only one in the first film.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 3/4/2024, 2:09 PM
@lazlodaytona - That....kind of proves my point doesn't it?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 3/4/2024, 3:44 PM
@Variant - just give Bat in the Sun Wolverine the green light. Keep that muddasuka gruff, barely speaking, in costume and mostly mysterious. He can take acting classes after the 1st outing. Win/win.
Wilke589
Wilke589 - 3/5/2024, 10:56 AM
@BlackStar25 - Exactly. "Logan" should've been the definitive end for Jackman. And if they wanted a Deadpool & Wolverine buddy-cop movie so desperately then they should've cast their MCU Wolverine actor already and had that be his debut movie.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/4/2024, 10:19 AM
I honestly don’t think we’ll have The Sentry in costume for Thunderbolts (atleast not until the end)…

I feel like he’s likely a “package” they are sent to retrieve but are surprised to find this timid & mentally unstable man instead…

They later on get more then they bargained for when he’s revealed to hold a dark power within.

Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 3/4/2024, 10:20 AM
As much as I'm looking forward to DvW, it sure highlights what bad casting Jackman is for the role. Every time I read about him being in another film, I think "it's just that much longer we have to wait to see a comic accurate version of the character"
Jackraow21
Jackraow21 - 3/4/2024, 10:28 AM
@Izaizaiza - Comic accurate basically just meaning short. 99% of people on the planet truly don't care, if they even know at all that Wolverine the comic character is supposed to be much shorter, and thus most of the general moviegoing audience who will see this don't see it as "bad casting" at all. Hence why people are hype for this rather than lamenting Wolverine's height. Keep in mind that Jackman has been the character since he was cast in the role in 1999, which is roughly half of the character's 50 year existence. So for entire generations of folks, he IS Wolverine. They even made him taller in the Ultimate comics line, which was loosely based on and/or inspired a lot of the early MCU, for this reason.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/4/2024, 11:06 AM
@Izaizaiza - Until they wipe the slate clean and have proven they're hiring competent writer's, I don't want their current team anywhere near the next Wolverine who's gonna be carrying on from Hugh.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/4/2024, 11:21 AM
@Izaizaiza - Jackman is a huge manly man that always looks like he can kick a55 on the big screen. Sorry to say but I don't think the general audience are in a hurry to see him be replaced by a hairy midget.
Kurne
Kurne - 3/4/2024, 12:01 PM
@Jackraow21 - dude, that's like saying if Tom Cruise kept playing Jack Reacher for the next 10-15 years instead of recasting/rebooting with Alan Ritchson, then the audience would only be familiar with Tom Cruise's non-accurate 5'7 version of the character (even though he's 6'5 in the source material). That wouldn't be the case at all, because Jack Reacher fans would still know and prefer Reacher being tall in the books. Or that would be like if Superman was played by a 5'6 actor on-screen for majority of his live-action existence instead of an accurate 6'3 actor. So I ask you then: would you say that 5'6 live-action version of Superman suddenly overrides the 6'3 version of Superman in the comics that fans know and love? Am curious if your logic only applies to tall actors playing traditionally short characters.

Just because Jackman's played the role for this long doesn't suddenly negate that Wolverine is 5'3 in the comics, and that fans still want to see him accurately portrayed as such someday, just like Jack Reacher fans screamed and shouted for his character to be accurately portrayed as 6'5 on-screen. Also, Ultimate Wolverine was only bumped up to 5'9, as they were still taking into consideration that Logan should be shorter than most other heroes, even in the Ultimate line. And that's literally all people want to see in a reboot/recast as well; we just don't want a typical 6ft+ tall/dark/handsome/charismatic Wolverine, like Hugh Jackman, because that's literally the opposite of who Wolverine is. Wolverine was literally, specifically designed and created to be the opposite of the conventional/likeable superhero like Cyclops and Captain America.

Making Wolverine that typical 6'2 tall/dark/handsome/charismatic template completely takes that away.
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