AVENGERS 5 And 6 Rumored Plot Details Promise Epic Battles, Massive Cameos, And A Whole New MCU

AVENGERS 5 And 6 Rumored Plot Details Promise Epic Battles, Massive Cameos, And A Whole New MCU

Some rumoured story details for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars have been revealed, and it sounds like Marvel Studios has plans that are even bigger than we initially imagined...

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By JoshWilding - Dec 04, 2022 06:12 AM EST

There's a huge amount of excitement for the next two Avengers movies, especially with titles like The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars! Anything and everything we hear before they're released should probably be taken with a pinch of salt, but we can't help getting a little giddy after reading these rumoured story details. 

According to the Heavy Spoilers YouTube channel, Avengers: The Kang Dynasty will pull the curtain back on the title villain's backstory, revealing how he's conquered countless worlds across the Multiverse. 

Earth's Mightiest Heroes will assemble to battle Kang the Conqueror, getting some backup from Earth-616's Kang: Nathaniel Richards, the scientist who later became He Who Remains in Loki. Remember, the villain revealed that he figured out how to stop his Variants prior to creating the Sacred Timeline and told Sylvie that, even if she killed him, the same thing would happen all over again.

Unsurprisingly, Kang will defeat The Avengers, prompting them to traverse the Multiverse in Avengers: Secret Wars to put together a huge team of heavy hitters. That will supposedly include characters from pretty much every Marvel movie ever, including heroes from the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises, and actors like Hugh Jackman, Andrew Garfield, and Tobey Maguire. 

As we've previously heard, it appears the idea is for Avengers: Endgame's "Portals" scene to look positively small fry in comparison!

The most interesting part of these claims is that Marvel Studios is looking to sign up some of those actors for a new MCU that will be created at the end of Avengers: Secret Wars. Similar to the comic book event from Jonathan Hickman, it seems a new world that incorporates many timelines will form, which will "allow for some of the X-Men and so on to be brought across."

Again, we shouldn't take any of this too seriously for now, but if it's true, it appears The Multiverse Saga will end with a reboot that sets the stage for a new era of storytelling.

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty is set to be released on May 2, 2025, while Avengers: Secret Wars will follow on May 1, 2026.

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Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/4/2022, 1:25 PM
Sounds pretty bad honestly. No effort to actually develop the character prior like the 'Portal Scene' just shoving them into a random multiverse to be recruited. It's wanting the payoff without the set-up of actually doing the movies themselves.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/4/2022, 1:34 PM
Should clarify that with No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2, at least they were the same characters who had their journey explored and we understood them via our understanding of the main character. Even then NWH was inconsistent so people are pretty much hyping over the actors as opposed to the characters.

With this, it's just lets shove in Hugh Jackman, Wesley Snipes and Nicholas Cage into it because Wolverine, Blade and Ghostrider are characters we want but we're not going to bother developing them and instead rely on the popularity of other people's stories.

It's filled with cameos, but that's about all it is and when applying it to an endless multiverse we should be dealing with billions of variants of heroes and villains, not just what sounds like a handful from Marvel movies prior and some variants of Tony & Steve because they know that people will pay for Iron Man and Captain America.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 12/4/2022, 1:43 PM
@Scarilian - You're dealing with a loosely based short rumor, instead of an entire full script and fully produced 3-hour movie. You're kind of jumping the gun here.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/4/2022, 1:57 PM
@MosquitoFarmer -
True, but the loosely based short rumor is what I've been worried they would do - which is pretty much just repeating the core elements of Infinity War and Endgame on a slightly larger scale. Only this time without a decade worth of set-up.

Like, with what's mentioned here its pretty much shove in Wolverine who we'll have already had a recent return in Deadpool 3 and then shove in Andrew and Tobey again. The rest of which is just shoving in characters from films that were not part of the MCU and most of which would presumably just be for meme value like the cast of Fant4stic.

Thanos/Kang wins in part 1 causing the Snap/Incursion forcing the heroes to regroup and in part 2 they exploit Time Travel/Multiverse in order to bring together a huge group of heroes and win via numbers and presumably getting to the Gauntlet/Ten Rings (?) before the villain to win.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/4/2022, 2:04 PM
Personally was hoping for the bait-and-switch where Kang gets built up and then defeated in Kang Dynasty, but Kang's actions cause the Incursion which erases everything.

Secret Wars would then be a group of heroes and villains on a battlworld trying to undo the events of the Incursion but realizing that in the process it won't undo exactly and it strands them on a variant universe that becomes the main universe going forward - so only the newly introduced Phase 4-6 characters would survive the events of Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars and every other hero or villain would either be swapped with a variant or erased.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/4/2022, 2:24 PM
@Scarilian - I think there will be a bait and switch. Essentially they've already told us what to expect because of what HWR said about the last time it happened and what he had to do to preserve his timeline, so we'll be expecting that to happen, but there'll be a major complication due to one major cog being removed and so another cog will have to take it's place, in a surprise twist.

Baiting us with the set-up in Loki and then switching it out for a very different scenario... Secret Wars.
The1st
The1st - 12/4/2022, 8:55 PM
@Scarilian - But they'll be already fleshed out in the sense of prior films, only way it works. What we'll get in movies is all the average Marvel movie fan really cares about, the interactions, and they'll be time for that.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 12/4/2022, 1:41 PM
So if true basically they’re gonna do what was kinda already done in Infinity War and Endgame? Heroes lose and the survivors go get what they need to win from other “places”?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/4/2022, 2:12 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek -
It definitely sounds a very similar core premise. I'd hope that is not the case. You could just get rid of Kang in Kang Dynasty and have the threat shift to the Incursions with the treat being that the heroes/villains that remain after Kang Dynasty come into conflict on how to fix things and potentially are being manipulated by a threat that is being set-up to be explored more in future such as Doctor Doom, Magus, The Beyonder, perhaps even the Celestials.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/4/2022, 2:18 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - Welcome to the world of storytelling, young padawan.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/4/2022, 2:21 PM
Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars was great and Marvel should have used that to reboot it's comic book universe.

The heroes losing to Kang in Avengers:The Kang Dynasty sounds to similar to The Avengers and The Guardians Of The Galaxy losing to Thanos in Avengers:Infinity War.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/4/2022, 2:26 PM
@marvel72 - "Should have"? What year are you from? Maybe they do.
(I think they should too)
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 12/4/2022, 2:23 PM
Rumors for a pair of movies still 3 and 4-years off... Seriously???? 🙄
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 12/4/2022, 2:27 PM
So they're bringing FoX-Men back and weekass characters to defeat him? Hell nah


This better be fake
QuiGonsGhost
QuiGonsGhost - 12/4/2022, 2:32 PM
Can't wait, but it's rare lightning strikes twice
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/4/2022, 3:02 PM
Hopping through different universes/timelines to get some goodies to undo the Avengers' own defeat sounds too much like Endgame.

Much rather just see Kang come close to pruning the Avengers, only for Doom to step in and create Battleworld. Secret Wars can then be about (maybe the Young Avengers) assembling the heavy hitters already present on Battleworld to defeat Doom.
kg8817
kg8817 - 12/4/2022, 3:30 PM
I know this should be no surprise, but I actually believe this is completely false.

For one big reason: He Who Remains already told Loki and Sylvie he was from the 30th century.

616 Nathaniel Richards wouldn’t be around unless he travels back in time to the current 616 in a movie and I really hope they don’t do that.

Because if they do, I guarantee he will be connected to Tony Stark. Possibly Morgan’s grandchild. They will say the Stark family kept the Time travel algorithm they used in Endgame and passed it down and perfected it.

And Kang really needs to not be connected to Stark in any way.

And as others said, this is just too close to Infinity War and Endgame.
hue66
hue66 - 12/4/2022, 3:38 PM
From this they could bring multiverse captain America and iron man back into the mcu played by new actors. There is still a lot of stories to tell with those characters
Chris827
Chris827 - 12/4/2022, 3:59 PM
movies are years out and not even written but sure plot leaks. These are def not guesses from fans online, nah def not.
TheCoonII
TheCoonII - 12/4/2022, 5:03 PM
I doubt deadpool would not be mentioned if this was real
Repian
Repian - 12/4/2022, 7:41 PM
The portals open and the Avengers from all universes appear to defeat Kang. I want to see the Avengers from Earth-X.
DarkeyeZ
DarkeyeZ - 12/5/2022, 7:40 AM
@Repian - I wanna see what that Thor looks like from behind
Toecutter
Toecutter - 12/4/2022, 9:52 PM
Quinn
Quinn - 12/5/2022, 1:39 AM
Meh. Sounds like Feige has run out of ideas.
DarkeyeZ
DarkeyeZ - 12/5/2022, 7:41 AM
@Quinn - it's fake news. don't Blame Feige for BS articles made up by lazy internet "writers"
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 12/5/2022, 9:18 PM
@Quinn - that's just you being a hater because DC sucks
DemonTweeks
DemonTweeks - 12/5/2022, 8:12 AM
fake. cant bring in the Fox X-Men as Deadpool is about to kill their Asses in DP3.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 12/5/2022, 1:13 PM
If Thor should die he should die in TIME
Wolverweeny
Wolverweeny - 12/12/2022, 2:34 PM
The MCU is by far the biggest franchise ever created. It took 25 years of storytelling to get to its magnum opus (endgame) and it’s now crashing in what will be considered the fastest decline in history. Crashing and burning with every piece of sh*t tv show and movies made for 8 years (love and thunder), not to mention the incredible over hyping of movies that could clearly have been way better(no way home/ MOM) if studios and businesses in this abhorrent country would stop the idiotic exponential growth business practice/ and in turn were not so overly pressured to just do one single thing, which is make more of a profit then the last one or last year… and instead could get back to focusing on quality storytelling without all these half ass rushed development/production money saving embarrassments of projects that are all hyped to do and change much more then they actually end up doing or changing, thus becoming as irrelevant as the last one instead of as good as the last one. I guarantee you the budgets of both secret wars and Kang dynasty are designed to be more cost effective then infinity war and endgame and though more characters will be shoved into the Hurd of sheep avengers team, it will ultimately not be as grand in scale. Work 99% of it being CGI since it’s way cheaper to generate the image then build and deign it with materials and man labor. The goal is how can they make more money then endgame by spending less then the billion dollars in production alone it took to get infinity war and endgame made, and make more money squeezing every single percentage point increases of profit out until its all as dry lifeless and predictable as the last one. SMD
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