AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY's Title Change Has Now Been Confirmed By Marvel Studios

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY's Title Change Has Now Been Confirmed By Marvel Studios AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY's Title Change Has Now Been Confirmed By Marvel Studios

There have been rumblings for a while that Marvel Studios has dropped The Kang Dynasty from Avengers 5, and that's been made official during a recent presentation by The Walt Disney Company. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Mar 17, 2024 07:03 AM EST

Various outlets have reported that Avengers: The Kang Dynasty has lost its title internally at Marvel Studios, but it's finally been made official. 

Disney recently held a presentation for investors which included a timeline for upcoming MCU movies and TV shows. There are no major revelations here, but we're sure you'll notice that Avengers: The Kang Dynasty is listed as simply Avengers 5. For the time being, Avengers: Secret Wars still has its title. 

There have previously been rumblings we're now getting Secret Wars - Part 1 and Secret Wars - Part 2; even before Jonathan Majors' legal troubles, it's thought Marvel Studios planned to shift the spotlight away from Kang after dropping the ball on the villain in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania

The studio's executives supposedly believed they'd got the movie right, trusting writer Jeff Loveness to set the stage for the next Avengers movies by having Kang the Conqueror - the main Kang Variant - defeated by Ant-Man. 

Last year, we learned that Loveness was fired from working on Avengers 5 due to the response to the Ant-Man threequel and not because Marvel Studios is moving away from Kang. 

It was said that his version of Avengers: The Kang Dynasty had the majority of the Multiverse Saga's leads (minus Thor, for some reason) battling Kang's Variants on Earth. Despite the villain's presence, the story was supposedly largely grounded and light on full-blown Multiversal elements. 

Loki and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness scribe Michael Waldron is now penning both movies, and his vision is thought to be similar but puts a greater emphasis on the Multiverse before giving alternate reality heroes a much larger role in Avengers: Secret Wars.

Not too long ago, a rumour started circulating online suggesting Fear the Walking Dead star Colman Domingo is the frontrunner to replace Majors as Kang in the MCU.

"You know, listen. My team has had conversations with Marvel about some aspect of the MCU for years. Do I know this to be true or not? I actually don’t know," the actor said last month. "I feel like my team doesn’t bring me something unless it’s real. So I don’t know. I could be in conversation, but I’m not sure. I would welcome a conversation around it."

"Whatever they’re working out with Jonathan [Majors] and his legacy in the MCU, I feel like I just have to be in my own lane, whatever that is. There’s hearsay, there’s conversations, but I’m not even sure because I feel like nothing comes to me until something’s real. But I’d be down with it."

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty is currently scheduled to arrive in theaters on May 1, 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars set to follow on May 7, 2027.

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WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 3/17/2024, 7:47 AM
Do we even have any avengers left
rychlec
rychlec - 3/17/2024, 7:56 AM
@WhateverItTakes - Yes... the Russo Brothers.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/17/2024, 8:03 AM
@WhateverItTakes - Since Strange was never officially confirmed an Avenger, there's still Spider-man, Thor and Hawkeye who've barely had much interactions between each other. White Vision is still a possibility and Rhodey might still be involved although he hasn't done anything Avengers related since Age of Ultron apparently soo there's at least 3-4 characters they could use that people might still give a shit about.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 3/17/2024, 8:15 AM
@HashTagSwagg - but you do know what they are going to do they are going to put a bit of side characters that nobody cares about front and center
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/17/2024, 8:19 AM
@WhateverItTakes -
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I'm sure we'll start giving a shit about those other characters by then.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 3/17/2024, 8:22 AM
@WhateverItTakes - I don't know, I think they'll try to use variants, actors from previous movies to draw people to cinemas again
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:33 AM
@WhateverItTakes - don't really know what constitutes as being an Avenger anymore. Don't need most to be Avengers anyway, but rather part of multiple teams:

- Avengers: Black Panther, Vision, Captain America, Hulk, Deadpool, Daredevil, Echo
- Ultimates: Thor, Rocket, Groot, Kraglin, Cosmo, Adam, Phyla, Captain Marvel, Nova
- West Coast: Shang-Chi, Hawkeye, She-Hulk, Ant-Man, Wasp, Rhodey, Wonder Man
- Midnight Sons: Strange, Blade, Dane, Elsa, Moon Knight, Werewolf, Man-Thing, Agatha
- Young Avengers: Spider-Man, Kate, America Chavez, Ms. Marvel, Ironheart
- Thunderbolts: Yelena, Bucky, Ghost, USAgent, Red Guardian, Taskmaster, Sentry

So, to answer your question: yes, there are Avengers (recruits). And that's not even to consider characters like Captain Carter, Binary and other multiversal superheroes.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:34 AM
@braunermegda - yeah, the multiverse could be used to get some big names in again. Could see Tony Stark, Steve Rogers and T'Challa variants appear
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/17/2024, 9:32 AM
@rychlec - they haven't made a good film since Infinity War
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/17/2024, 9:53 AM
@McMurdo - GOTG 3?
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/17/2024, 10:03 AM
@ObserverIO - That one seemed better than it was just by comparison to the dreck that surrounded it - it's not that good - especially when you are in the middle of it knowing it's the last gasp of the decent MCU.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/17/2024, 10:04 AM
@McMurdo - Agreed. I tried to watch Love and Thunder again for the first time since the theater - it was excruciating and I tapped out in under 30 minutes.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/17/2024, 10:09 AM
@McMurdo - Maybe a great movie since Infinity War.

But I did like and thought were good....

Spider-Man:No Way Home
Doctor Strange And The MultiVerse Of Madness
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3
Spike101
Spike101 - 3/17/2024, 10:25 AM
@McMurdo - I agree. Whilst there has been moments of greatness in movies since then none of them are overall of the same quality. Each is let down by one thing or another but in most cases ultimately it’s just lack of inspiration and sticking to the content a Marvel fan expects.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 3/17/2024, 10:37 AM
@WhateverItTakes -
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tylerzero
tylerzero - 3/17/2024, 11:29 AM
@marvel72 -

With the operative word being "good," I agree with you.

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dragon316
dragon316 - 3/17/2024, 12:11 PM
@WhateverItTakes - that’s funny was about ask same thing 😂 Bucky free agent , captain America Spider-Man antman dr strange kid avengers hawkeye hulks feel like I’m missing some that are not dead
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 3/17/2024, 12:16 PM
@dragon316 - I mean wtf they got rid of the pillars of the avengers now f all left
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2024, 2:45 PM
@ObserverIO - Dammit how do I always forget Guardians 3. It's like better than a ton of the early phase stuff!!!! It's amazing. So yes. But I give Gunn the large majority of the credit there.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2024, 2:46 PM
@marvel72 - forgetting Guardians 3 is unforgivable and I apologize. Incredible film imo
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/17/2024, 8:05 AM
Not really surprising but still sucks since it was a great title imo.

Man , Majors really had the quickest rise & fall I’ve ever seen smh…

Putting aside his personal life , I personally thought he did well as Kang and all the other variants he had portrayed thus far but they really shouldn’t have made him the only face we saw in The Council of Kangs.

I just hope Marvel still recasts the role rather then just discarding the character & storyline because I want to see it followed through and feel it still has potential.

Get Colman Domingo as “Prime Kang” , dude has the right gravitas for the role!!.

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SethBullock
SethBullock - 3/17/2024, 8:09 AM
Lame, they should just finish the story they wanted to tell, but hiring good directors and writers to tell it.

Kang had a lot of potential, even the multiverse and the time travel stuff, only problem has been the terrible writing and the lack of real talent behind all the last MCU movies, plus some bad decisions that made zero sense.

Majors legal problems have not helped either, but there are many ways to fix that.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 3/17/2024, 8:11 AM
Not to fix his legal problems, lol, I meant to explain a new actor playing the Kang role.
XtremeXFan
XtremeXFan - 3/17/2024, 8:10 AM
Really hope this turns into Avengers vs (Fo)X-Men, having those universes colide in an Incursion, with battle world being created at the end leading into Secret Wars
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 3/17/2024, 8:10 AM
I'm guessing the Beyonder(s) will be the main villan. Still a possibility that Kang will be a secondary or the true/final villan at the end of the movie.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/17/2024, 8:13 AM
@ATrueHero1987 - Beyond in the MCU might still be a variant of Kang if the rumors are true.

That way they can still keep it connected to that without having to introduce a whole new threat.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 3/17/2024, 8:14 AM
I'm disappointed. I like Kang. He can exist without JM. We'll see what comes out of it I guess.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:16 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - I like Kang too, but I don't mind Kang Dynasty being dropped if we get a two-parter Secret Wars instead.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:15 AM
Think they should just make in Secret Wars Part 1 and 2, and get the Russos back as directors. They have said if they return, it's for Secret Wars. As for dropping Kang, I don't mind it.

Part 1 can have Prime Kang, who returns from Quantumania older, and with new powers. He now calls himself the Beyonder, and easily defeats the Council of Kangs in the cold open.

Part 2 can then have Doom, who at the end of Part 1 helps the Avengers deliver the killing blow and steals the Beyonder's powers and crowns himself God Emperor Doom.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/17/2024, 8:20 AM
@bkmeijer1 - the Russo’s have said they would come back for the 80’s Secret Wars as opposed to the one this seems to be based on more which is more modern.

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Granted , they could always use elements of both stories but still.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:46 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I think they could do both Secret Wars comics. Part 1 could be based on the 1985 comic, and Part 2 on the 2015 comic.

The MCU only has used broad outlines of famous stories so far, so I think they can make it work with Secret Wars as well.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/17/2024, 8:48 AM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do that

I don’t see The Russo’s coming back since they are busy with their own production company now but you never know , would be great!!.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:56 AM
@TheVisionary25 - think that if Marvel Studios asks them, I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped everything and immediately said yes. Once in a lifetime opportunity
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/17/2024, 9:02 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I could see it.
JakeDaSnakkke
JakeDaSnakkke - 3/17/2024, 8:17 AM
Annihilation
Blergh
Blergh - 3/17/2024, 8:26 AM
Little idea:

Replace Kang Dyansty with "Young Avengers"; joining Kate Bishop, Ms. Marvel, Stature, Skar and America Chavez.
We start with "The Council of Kangs" being annihilated by an older, wiser Kang (played by someone along the lines of Denzel Washington to bring the gravitas); he absorbs his alternate selves into himself to become what is known as "Prime Kang". With his newfound power he sets his sights on the TVA and Loki, as a means to fulfill his plan: create a perfect timeline in his image.
America Chavez realizes the threat to the Multiverse through her powers and attempts to assemble what is left of the Avengers (Hawkeye, Bruce, Strange, Captain Marvel etc.) her mission to assemble the "old gang" fails however as she's blown off by Hawkeye, who doesn't take her claims seriously.
Kate Bishop however does and, in a moment of grandeur, helps America assemble a team of young Avengers. The kids are sure of winning, being a bit arrogant and full of themselves (a lesson they'll soon learn to regret).
In their mission to defeat Kang the kids learn that they need to get over themselves to take Kang on.
Ultimately they manage to defeat Kang in a desperate effort but at the same time are too late as he has already absorbed Loki's powers. With the death of Kang the universe breaks appart leading into....

....Avengers Secret Wars.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/17/2024, 8:51 AM
@Blergh - really like that idea of Prime Kang (aka The Beyonder?) setting out to create his own perfect timeline, which I think is a good set-up for Battleworld.

There's a lot of stuff they can borrow from both Secret Wars runs. Instead of a Molecule Man bomb, Beyonder uses a Scarlet Witch bomb to defeat the Council, and uses Loki instead of Molecule Man as the battery for the Battleworld.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/17/2024, 9:36 AM
@Blergh - A Young Avengers movie would be a huge box office bomb. Maybe if they put a $50 million budget into making it, the movie might turn a meager profit.
Blergh
Blergh - 3/17/2024, 10:55 AM
@mountainman - maybe but they've built towards the Young Avengers as a team and we need a team to lose and cause the Secret Wars. So I think their movie would be a good lead-in to Secret Wars.
Perhaps produce these movies back to back and treat "Young Avengers" as a cheap prelude to the follow up?
AllsGood
AllsGood - 3/17/2024, 8:31 AM
Avengers 5

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