Has Marvel Comics Just Solved The MCU's Jonathan Majors/Kang The Conqueror Problem?

Has Marvel Comics Just Solved The MCU's Jonathan Majors/Kang The Conqueror Problem?

Marvel Comics released Ultimate Invasion #4 earlier this week, but could the introduction of a new Kang the Conqueror solve Marvel Studios' Jonathan Majors problem? You can find more details right here...

By JoshWilding - Sep 29, 2023 11:09 AM EST

Loki and Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania star Jonathan Majors was arrested in March and charged with misdemeanour assault, aggravated harassment, attempted assault, harassment, and strangulation following an alleged domestic dispute with his then-girlfriend, Grace Jabbari.

Marvel Studios has remained oddly quiet on the actor's future in the MCU, but with his role in Loki season 2 already shot, Majors - who plays Kang Variant, Victor Timely - will remain part of the series. Beyond that, we have to believe the Disney-owned studio is waiting to see what happens when the actor goes to trial. 

If his name is cleared, there's really no reason he can't continue playing Kang, even after a handful of claims about alleged past misconduct. However, should he be found guilty, Majors' acting career is likely over. 

Either way, Disney may choose to cut ties with Majors in an effort to avoid the Multiverse Saga being overshadowed by a potentially problematic star. Thanks to Marvel Comics' Ultimate Invasion #4, there may now be a new direction to take this reality-hopping era of storytelling.

Following the death of his father, Tony Stark follows in Howard's footsteps by donning a suit of armour and dubbing himself Iron Lad. Looking an awful lot like Scarlet Centurion, he uses Howard's time-travel device to undo The Maker's damage to Earth-6160, creating a new Ultimate Universe in the process. 

Along the way, it's established that Tony is destined to become Kang the Conqueror, establishing the hero we know as Iron Man as one of the villain's time-travelling Variants. On Earth-616, it's long been hinted that Kang is either a descendant of Reed Richards or Doctor Doom, but this Ultimate Invasion twist could have major consequences for the MCU.

If Majors continuing to play Kang is no longer feasible, rather than recasting the actor, all Marvel Studios needs to do is roll up to Robert Downey Jr.'s house with a dump truck full of money to introduce the most formidable Kang Variant who shares a face with someone we knew as a hero. 

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is thought to be involved with all aspects of Marvel these days, including the comic books, so it's feasible he played a role in Tony becoming Kang. After all, if there's a basis for it on the page, can we really complain if and when this happens on screen? 

We'll see, but let us know your thoughts on this possibility in the comments section. 

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Variant
Variant - 9/29/2023, 11:19 AM
As a variant myself, absolutely not. Do not do this to the legacy of RDJs Iron Man persona.
HugoMartines16
HugoMartines16 - 9/29/2023, 11:25 AM
@Variant - According to an American insider, he discovered what the end of the multiverse saga will be in the MCU, which will be divided into 3 films: 1 Doctor Strange in the Dark Dimension of Clea- Doctor Strange is condemned by the Living Tribunal to live for eternity trapped in a dark dimension for having caused a small incursion into the 616 universe in Tom's Spiderman 3, but will be released to help Clea and Wong defeat the Nightmare who is terrorizing planet Earth, they defeat Nightmare and Strange and Clea begin a relationship. Kang and Thanos from the 1016 universe kill the Living Tribunal. 2 Avengers Secret Wars Chapter One- Kang and Thanos from the 1016 universe recruit Scarlet Witch, Doctor Doom, Agatha Harkness and Vulture to be part of the Beyonders, and build Battleworld, Nick Fury discovers the Beyonders' evil plan and recruits Spiderman, Hulk, Thor , Sam, Carol Denvers, Loki, Black Panther, Strange and Clea to be part of the Avengers, the Avengers are defeated by the Beyonders in a battle in NY, Sam, Carol Denvers and Loki die and Battleworld is created. Avengers Secret Wars Chapter Two- Marvel heroes from different universes come together in battle on Battleworld and manage to defeat the Beyonders and their army of robots after Strange's sacrifice, but are unable to stop a major incursion caused by the creation of Battleworld. Reed Richards convinces "One Above All" to create a new universe (NEW MCU) and takes the few survivors of the old multiverse to the NEW MCU.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 11:26 AM
@Variant - I kindly disagree it would not hurt his Iron man persona I think it would be amazing to see a great actor like RDJ get to play on the other side of the fence even if it's for one movie.
Variant
Variant - 9/29/2023, 11:46 AM
@pitbull76 - I also kindly disagree. I think it would muddy things up. I'm a huge MCU fan but have really had enough with multiverse shenanigans. The less convoluted, the better.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 12:03 PM
@Variant - Hey agree to disagree nothing wrong with that.from the start they mentioned Kang as the next big baddie after Thanos I lost interest.i would have tried to prolong it until fantastic four and have Galactus not appear until the end credits of that setting him up or I even rather of had Dr doom playing in the shadows of other shows and movies being revealed in place of Galactus in the end of fantastic four.
Variant
Variant - 9/29/2023, 12:34 PM
@pitbull76 - I agree we can disagree amicably. And I appreciate that.

I do love Kang as a villain tho. He has a ton of depth! Which means there's a lot of potential material to work with. And we're days away from Loki S2 now so we'll see what Victor Timely brings to the table. I'm personally a HUGE fan of what Majors did with He Who Remains. That's one of the best finale's I've ever seen. I also thought Kang in AM3 was the highlight of that film.

I also think the timing of Kang was dictated by where Marvel Studios was at, at the time. They just acquired all the mutant IPs so they started working toward getting all their characters under one roof to include the side stories that kinda connected, kinda didn't. I.e. Daredevil. And what better way to mesh everything together than multiversal means?

Now, I do agree Doctor Doom is a more compelling villain. But we don't want to do the best of everything all at once. I think what we have now will tie into F4, Doom, Surfer, Galactas, Annihilus, etc in good fashion. Let's wait and see.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 3:42 PM
@Variant - I like you're answer sometimes when you disagree with some it's better to hear them out instead of what most people do now a days and dismiss them it might not change your opinion but you might look at it in a different perspective than u did before.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/29/2023, 11:20 AM
It might be a little messy but I don’t hate the idea of RDJ being the new big bad of the MCU.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 11:28 AM
@thewanderer - I shared almost the same comment agree 💯 my friend.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/29/2023, 11:23 AM
It wouldn't make any thematic sense to general audiences to have RDJ show up as a Kang variant. Unless you did something like an RDJ variant, a Chris Evans variant, Hemsworth variant, etc. But even that sounds kinda weird.

I would be down to see some villainous versions of retired/dead avengers, though. Superior Iron Man, Hydra Cap, etc.

I'd much rather see a Kang-assembled evil alt-Avengers team than a Tony Stark Kang.
Timerider
Timerider - 9/30/2023, 6:41 PM
@SheepishOne - if they ever did bring someone back to life, or a variant, I’d like to see Red Skull kill Kang and all his variants and be the big bad along with Dr Doom. Then Doom betrays Red Skull and he’s killed off.

If you could get two films with Red Skull and he’s killed off at the end of the second film, then you might be able to beg Hugo Weaving to return to the role for a nice big payday, especially if it’s shot back to back with the first film.

A one and done for Hugo, because he hates wearing that mask. He could just look like himself, then he gets disfigured again and only have to wear the mask once before he’s killed off.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 10/2/2023, 11:11 AM
@Timerider - He wore a mask for the whole of V for Vendetta...!
Ah, but, who knows how his tastes have changed...
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GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/29/2023, 11:23 AM
This sounds like a GOD AWFUL idea
Origame
Origame - 9/29/2023, 11:25 AM
I think this'll just be more messy than simply recasting. Outside of timely all the variants we've spent any time with are dead. So if anything it'd be easier to slot in a different actor for the face then just role with it.

Worked for Rhodes, and we didn't have a variant explanation for him.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/29/2023, 11:26 AM
They could just recast the character, without making a big in-universe deal out of it.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/29/2023, 11:51 AM
@FinnishDude - exactly, the simplest answer is best here. Josh wants to do the most overly complicated thing when there's such an easy solution.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/29/2023, 11:28 AM
Or, when he's cleared completely rat bastards like you will have to retract all of the innuendo and publicly apologize for dragging his name through the mud. It won't happen because you heart is as black as the infinite reaches of space. You are feeding the fragile egos if incels and lowlifes.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 9/29/2023, 12:02 PM
@Goldboink - my man, if this happens, Cassidy and Josh are going to be harangued to no endless end, Harridan style. Certain parties ‘round here better hipe that their facts are in order because other parties have been keeping screenshots and receipts
JonC
JonC - 9/29/2023, 11:28 AM
Then again, Morgan Stark, who was introduced to time travel as the same time as Tony could fill this role as she no doubt has adopted the brains of Tony and the hatred of what time travel and meddling can do since it took her father. A child growing up with this tech is not unlike a child growing up with a cell phone, they live in that universe as opposed to the elderly getting a cell phone and not knowing how to operate it beyond basic functions.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/29/2023, 11:32 AM
Please for all that is holy do not have an evil Iron Man or Cap variant in the MCU!
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/29/2023, 11:57 AM
@mountainman - Iron Man was basically a villain Civil War and was pretty villainous pre-Iron Man armor.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/29/2023, 12:18 PM
@ObserverIO - The pre-armor version of Stark being a bad person was a part of his hero’s journey. Some of our favorite protagonists have to become the great person they are meant to be. Regarding Civil War, even though I’ve always been team Cap 100%, I’d argue that Stark had a point and he wasn’t the villain. Zemo was. Stark and Rodgers disagreed and it came to blows. Neither was 100% right.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/29/2023, 12:34 PM
@mountainman - All good villains should be like this.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/29/2023, 12:34 PM
"good villains", lol.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/29/2023, 12:49 PM
@ObserverIO - Agreed. A villain that has sympathetic movies is always a better one. I’m just personally opposed to having a Stark/Kang or a Hydra Rodgers type situation. Just like I don’t want an evil Superman in the movies. Alternate takes in comics, video games or some other media are fine, but it just feels lazy for it to be done in the MCU when there are so many quality villains they can still pull from.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/29/2023, 12:59 PM
@mountainman - Like... oh I don't know... this guy maybe?!


Where's Doom already, Kevin Feige?
mountainman
mountainman - 9/29/2023, 1:16 PM
@ObserverIO - Yeah Doom should have been the big bad of this Saga. Hands down. Make the FF front and center. Build out the new Avengers. Stay away from the multiverse nonsense.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 9/29/2023, 3:17 PM
@ObserverIO - Honestly at this point, if they are wanting to move away from Jonathon Majors, I agree and lets just move on to Doom. He had a role in Secret Wars anyways and also F4 is right around the corner. Perfect timing and you are not having 2 avengers level threats at the same time.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 6:02 PM
@mountainman - yep wrote the same thing in another article today or Galactus Ethier or I would of had a better time excepting.I mean I'm already. Multiuniverced out and how many more shows and movies until this phase is over?
mountainman
mountainman - 9/29/2023, 6:32 PM
@pitbull76 - Sounds like Secret Wars won’t happen until 2027-2028 so 4 to 5 more years 🙄
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 9/29/2023, 8:25 PM
@mountainman -Crap can we just cut to X-Men and Fantastic four and skip the rest?
dragon316
dragon316 - 9/29/2023, 11:33 AM
Stop with variants let this end nice ide save your self
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/29/2023, 11:41 AM
sigh. First off, Marvel may or may not even have a Majors problem, so anything I'm about to say is just playing into the hypothetical.

They already have 2 in universe ways to explain a change in appearance and 1 just hollywood way.

The hollywood way is to just recast.

The in universe ways are, you just introduce a new Big Bad Kang variant that looks different, or as I've said previously, with how ingrained in the MCU from the beginning theyve been, as well as the multiverse saga and Kang himself, you just reveal that Loki is actually the big bad of secret wars and he plays a doom role. Remember, we still have evil 2012 Loki running around through time right now, not semi reformed dead in endgame Loki. So seeing an opportunity to take over a universe built in his vision, especially after seeing his existence was basically a farce where infinity stones were office people paperweights, it's in character.
litobirdy
litobirdy - 9/29/2023, 11:51 AM
this site just feels more and more like a blog site.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 9/29/2023, 11:55 AM
Another Wilding article just meant to piss people off.
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 9/29/2023, 12:31 PM
Just recast, nobody is watching the movies anyway.
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