Director Joe Dante Looks Back On Why He Turned Down Batman!

Director Joe Dante Looks Back On Why He Turned Down Batman!

The veteran director talks about why he has no regrets about turning down the chance to direct a "period" Batman movie in the late 1980's...

By JoshWilding - Jul 04, 2010 01:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman (1989)
Source: Movie Hole

Over 20 years ago, filmaker Joe Dante (The Gremlins) was very nearly the director of Batman - a movie that would eventually be made by Tim Burton in 1989 with Michael Keaton in the title role. Although Dante initially agreed to helm the comic book movie, he reveals here why exactly he decided to pull out and talks about the different kind of film it would have been.

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"After Gremlins started making money, Warner Bros. bosses came to me and asked 'Would you like to do our Batman?'. So I signed on. It was a good project, I grew up with Batman - but the problem was, I didn't really believe in Batman."

"I just couldn't swallow the idea of the guy living up on a Hill, dressing up as a bat...Robin and all that...I didn't feel right about it so I went in and told them that I didn't think I was the right guy for the movie."

"They, of course, said 'You must be crazy!', but I seriously believed, and still do, that I wasn't the right choice for the movie. It wasn't the movie that Tim Burton did, it was much more period. I don't regret not taking it on."




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Stinger
Stinger - 7/4/2010, 1:25 PM
would have been interesting

FIRST
kyle
kyle - 7/4/2010, 1:29 PM
intruder- so true. gremlins was alrite anyways, and never cared for it. nolan is and always will be the right director for batman
flames809
flames809 - 7/4/2010, 1:30 PM
he made Gremlins that was one of my favorite movie when i was a kid
flames809
flames809 - 7/4/2010, 1:30 PM
kyle- u right about nolan
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/4/2010, 1:30 PM
@ joshw i didn't even relize he was offered batman.
i watched tim burtons batman the other day on blu-ray,it seemed really dated & not as good as i remembered it to be way back in 1989.
chris nolan version is f***ing amazing,but will i fill the same way twenty years on as i do with burtons verison.
the dark knight or the watchmen is the greatest comic movie ever.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 7/4/2010, 2:17 PM
He didn't believe in batman, but I believe in Harvy Dent.
marvelguy
marvelguy - 7/4/2010, 2:31 PM
Joe Dante's Bat-Mite:

jonluthor
jonluthor - 7/4/2010, 2:53 PM
what the hell is a period batman?
Badmonkey
Badmonkey - 7/4/2010, 2:54 PM
Seriously...you don't believe in the Batman Mr. Dante. After working in the Corrections field for a while. The whole concept of Batman is more understandable than fuzzy puffballs that multiply in water and turn ugly after hitting the late night at taco bell. His loss, thanks Tim Burton for the memories.
jonluthor
jonluthor - 7/4/2010, 2:55 PM
what the hell is a period batman?
odie00
odie00 - 7/4/2010, 2:57 PM
i respect his choice. if you are unsure about something you should play it safe and not go through with it cause then you could have been like joel doing batman forever and batman and robin. gremlins was badass! then again people were also skeptical about tim burton doing batman and having micheal keaton play him which came out amazing.
ISleepNow
ISleepNow - 7/4/2010, 3:15 PM
Well at least he was right about not being the man for the job. Don't think he woulda done much better than Schumacker

Thank G%d for Christopher Nolan. Funny how he was able to make the premise more 'real' than anything Dante's ever done.
DasBoot
DasBoot - 7/4/2010, 3:16 PM
What happens if you have a gremlin from New York, but you take it on vacation to L.A.? Does it have to stop eating at midnight in New York, or midnight in L.A.?
imnotwearinghockeypants
imnotwearinghockeypants - 7/4/2010, 3:20 PM
@Intruder-thank you. I would eat the shit out of that cereal.
Badmonkey
Badmonkey - 7/4/2010, 3:46 PM
@DasBoot-That is one of the greatest mysteries of this century,next to where is Jimmy Hoffa and how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop. My question would be if you accidently got them wet with say oh... some Jack Daniels or mooshine what would be the result??? Also if you put sunblock on them would they still turn into goo. Just curious??
FoxForce5
FoxForce5 - 7/4/2010, 4:11 PM
I don't think he meant he didn't actually "belive" in Batman any less than anythin else he made be meant it as in, the property didn't speak to him so much. Something that we here should all respect. A lot of directorsvtake on a lot of stuff they shouldn't and then we end up with crap like, "Superman Returns", "Wolverine" or worse yet, "Batman & Robin"!!! So good for someone actually turning down buckets of cash and doing the right thing! We need more of that in Hollywood!
parascythe
parascythe - 7/4/2010, 4:15 PM
i would say i like both burton's and nolan's version of batman...they are relatively made for a set of audience in a particular period of time...SFX in the 90's is much more raw than what technology can do today...anyway, joe might made a batman that duplicates whenever bruce wet his pants...he doesn't believe in batman let him be..
Badmonkey
Badmonkey - 7/4/2010, 4:30 PM
@FoxForce5- Thank you for clarifying the belief comment of Joe Dante. I personally believe WB thought he would make Bats just as much of an adventure as he did with Gremlins. WIth him I think we would hahad Robin in the films too.
ISleepNow
ISleepNow - 7/4/2010, 4:36 PM
@parascythe

Nolan's Batman is Not just made for a particular audience at a particular time. It's just great..
antonio
antonio - 7/4/2010, 5:01 PM
i love gremlins.would he be good?maybe.
antonio
antonio - 7/4/2010, 5:02 PM
what is a "period"batman?i dont understand.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/4/2010, 5:57 PM
You've got to respect the guy for turning down what would have surely been a big high point of his career because he honestly didnt think he was the right guy for the job!

It would have been interesting to see his take on the character though and I wish he went into more detail here about the kind of movie it would have been...for me though, nobody can beat Christopher Nolan! :)

Burton's Batman movies were good but I'm not a fan of his art or directing style! To be honest, I'm just glad he never got the chance to direct Superman, lol!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/4/2010, 7:11 PM
STINGER's gonna get STUNG! : P

Well I'm sure Joe would have made a good BATMAN movie but glad he didn't!

Gr8 article JOSH!
Orehrepus
Orehrepus - 7/4/2010, 9:32 PM
Crying over spilled milk, eh? LOL!
Danny Elfman makes the best Batman soundtrack EVER!

Good one, Josh!
Creature
Creature - 7/4/2010, 10:23 PM
@Intruder
Nolan has a unique ways of story telling. Backwards, (Memento) flashbacks, (Batman Begins, Memento) detective, (The Dark Knight, Inception) and showing visually as we will probably see in Inception with the symbolism of water heavily used in the trailer. He dosen't just have his bright moments, but he is unique from pretty much every director at the time. Batman's rogue gallery is another thing. They're quirky and the majority are insane. The fact they're crazy and have some sort of gimmick is something that we don't need to care about. You're nitpicking them. But this is your opinion, and I respect it.
DDD
DDD - 7/5/2010, 12:02 AM
Nolan's gonna have to get back to a more Batman
Begins to make Batman fit back into comic book
land for Nolan's 3rd Batman. TDK is too reality-
based to work as Batman for the JLA movie.

I don't think Dante would have done such a well
drawn story as Batman Begins for a Batman movie.
I like Nolan's grittier take in "Begins".

TDK was not a true comic book movie. The Joker
was too much of a regular thug than a Super-
Villain, IMO.

But I still think Nolan can go back to a more
Superhero Batman in Batman 3 so that it fits
into the superhero mode of the JLA.

I think he would make a fine Superman and even
a good JLA movie. Or at least oversee both
movies.
hawkngo
hawkngo - 7/5/2010, 2:50 AM
This was the best commercial!!!!!



hawkngo
hawkngo - 7/5/2010, 3:10 AM
The people working at Mcdonalds must hate their jobs......
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 7/5/2010, 3:10 AM
HONESTLY, IF YOU DON'T FEEL IT IT AINT GONNA BE GOOD.
AlternateNo4
AlternateNo4 - 7/5/2010, 12:19 PM
hey, warner people... if you read this stuff, PLEASE don't listen to Mr. Rickly or the rest of the faithless! as i have stated [eloquently] in the past on other pages, a Batman reboot would be a terrible mistake! just like the marvelites are miserable abut the spider-boot, so would the rest of the world about ruining what the general moviegoing population would undoubtedly elect the best CBMs in history.

FIRST:
Nolan-man is a worldwide hit, not just a CBM fan fave. Along with, hopefully, GL, he will be the DRAW for a JL movie. People will go to see JLA EXPECTING the batman that nolan has made them fall in love with. If they toss a reboot out there to "lighten and brighten" the character simply to make him slide more easily into a 3D CGI-verse, CBM fans will understand but the world will feel like the uniqueness of the character has been compromised.

and SECOND, I will quote myself from 6/13:
"im just wondering why there seems to be this general consensus that just because nolan doesn't want superman in his batman movies, it means his version of batman—including bale's calculating & measured, yet seething and conflicted, a.k.a AWESOME portrayal—wouldn't work in a jla pic. why NOT? would you prefer the super friends/scooby doo batman?

the whole point is that batman, more than any other character, is ENDEMIC to his city; to gotham. he was born of and exists to serve this one godawful pit of despair and depravity. he's not SUPPOSED to work anywhere else; certainly not in a gleaming space station. the jla cartoon hit it just right in the beginning when batman tells the others that he's not gonna be there all the time, but he'll be there when they need him.

i ALWAYS thought it was nuts that he hung around with the rest of the boy scouts in jla... he's not like them and should NOT be made to fit. for god's sake batman used to f!@#$ing SHOOT people at the end of the story! let bale do it JUST LIKE HE HAS BEEN... BUT batman should only agree to work with them when they need his detective work in gotham, or new york, or rio, tokyo, moscow, bangkok, etc... someplace he understands AND where nobody else could do it as well. bale belongs in jla IF he wants in... but in or out they should NOT mess with the character he's created so PERFECTLY."
AlternateNo4
AlternateNo4 - 7/5/2010, 12:57 PM
To conclude... a reboot would be a copout. changing the whole world's favorite CBM character to make it easier to meld the universes would be cowardly and pandering. a versatile director could make a better movie by EMBRACING the variety of styles and showcasing the unique environment from which each character has sprung, and a smart writer will craft a story that enables and REQUIRES each individual hero to do what he or she does best. Clark & Diana do the brawling, with HIM repping in the Oval Office and HER talking to the UN. Hal will find historical connections in the Book of Oa and enlist aid from other planets, while Arthur's troops prevent the enemy from taking refuge in the sea...

... and Bruce will be the DETECTIVE: on the ground, shaking down thugs and sifting through the muck to uncover corruption, deception and "enemies in high places," including the key piece of data that provides the key to victory. Batman was born in the dark and he has to LIVE in the dark, no matter what movie he's in.

If the characters are homogenized just so they can all look right in a Times Square slugfest, the power of the whole JLA concept will be diminished and we'll just have another X-Men movie. And i think we've ALL had enough of those!
KevinBacon01
KevinBacon01 - 7/5/2010, 11:45 PM
I had multiples of all those batman cups growing up, don't know what happened to them. They probably broke in the wash, cuz they were the only cups my brothers and I would drink out of for years. lol
AlternateNo4
AlternateNo4 - 7/6/2010, 7:05 AM
All I have left are the "Batman Forever"s, but they are awesome!
PWhite
PWhite - 7/7/2010, 4:52 PM
I wouldnt do a "Period" Batman either. Thats gross! What is a "Period" Batman? I ate that cereal by the way.
AlternateNo4
AlternateNo4 - 7/9/2010, 7:35 AM
You ate "Period" cereal? I never even heard of it. Sounds nasty...
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