BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM Producer Bruce Timm Explains Why Watching Beloved Movie Makes Him "Cringe"

BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM Producer Bruce Timm Explains Why Watching Beloved Movie Makes Him "Cringe"

Despite being a beloved classic, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm failed to find an audience when it was released theatrically in 1993. Now, producer Bruce Timm has revealed why the movie makes him "cringe."

By JoshWilding - Jan 20, 2023 06:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman (Animated)
Source: Empire (via CBR)

The DC Animated Universe has always been massively popular, but when Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was released in theaters on Christmas Day in 1993, it flopped with a mere $5 million at the box office. Fans and critics alike loved the movie, however, and it's since become regarded as a cult classic and one of the best interpretations of the Dark Knight on screen.

During a recent interview with Empire (via CBR), legendary producer Bruce Timm admitted that watching the beloved movie makes him "cringe."

Explaining that the original plan called for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was for it to be a small screen special, Timm revealed that Warner Bros. then requested it be released theatrically during the midst of pre-production. That left the team scrambling to make some big changes.

"[Co-producer and co-director] Eric Radomski and I were in Japan, meeting with one of the animation studios that worked on the movie," Timm recalled. "We got the word that [the studio] officially wanted to make it a theatrical release while we were literally handing out the storyboards to the animators."

"It had all been formatted for the old-school TV ratio, which was practically a square. It was like, 'What the heck are we going to do?'"

Left with only eight months to finish Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, and a mere $6 million budget, the movie was finished, but Timm remains unhappy with the finished result. "When I see it, I just cringe. It's, like, 90 percent there. I just wish I had that last ten percent!"

While it was a shame that Mask of the Phantasm failed to find an audience in theaters, it would set the stage for the DCAU to expand on home video platforms. That continues to be the case to this day, with the release of movies like Legion of Super-Heroes and Batman: The Doom That Came To Gotham

Despite Timm's misgivings, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm remains beloved in the eyes of comic books fans. 

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JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 1/20/2023, 6:17 AM
The best Batman movie ever made!
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/20/2023, 6:57 AM
@JonAwesome - It certainly used to be.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/20/2023, 6:20 AM
Fandom events showed this and the Keaton batman last year, it's cool I got to see it in the same theater 29 years later. It will always be my favorite Batman movie
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 1/20/2023, 6:32 AM
It would be interesting to peak in an alternative universe where this movie was a box office smash hit. Would Fox rushed out a Marvel animated movie based on one of their cartoon shows soon after? How would DCAU continuity/storylines be different?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/20/2023, 6:35 AM
Still gotta see this movie. Hopefully DC adds it and Batman & Mr. Freeze: Sub-Zero soon so can I finally watch it.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 1/20/2023, 6:47 AM
Easily one of the best Batman movie out there
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/20/2023, 6:56 AM
Imagine what they would do given a budget and prep time.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/20/2023, 3:50 PM
@ObserverIO

It made 5.6 mil on a 6 mil budget. Not sure they needed a bigger one?
LeonNova
LeonNova - 1/20/2023, 7:10 AM
While it is unfortunate he did t get to complete the movie to his satisfaction, it still turned out amazing, one of the best Batman stories in any medium. That’s not a movie he should cringe about, he made that Killing Joke prologue and that horrible Batman & Harley Quinn film.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 1/20/2023, 7:15 AM
When everything else works - you don't notice the budget. This one was pitch-perfect.

(The only mistake they made was releasing a toy Phantasm figure without the mask - giving away the ending.)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/20/2023, 7:41 AM
BATS was always ahead of its time when it came to animation. It was world's ahead of X-Men too.

But I remember seeing this in the theatre, and the scene where the dude is trying to run Bruce over with a motorcycle and he jumps and punches the guy right in the face was soooooooo damn cool. Even as a kid I was taken aback by how cool that animation was.

BTAS was truly something special that doesn't even come along once every generation. I can't think of any other animated show since then that I would put on the same level for animation, presentation, consistently good stories, voice acting, and character representations. It's in an entire league of its own even to this day.
Drewwright816
Drewwright816 - 1/20/2023, 8:58 AM
I got this movie for graduating kindergarten and have been obsessed with Batman ever since love, love, love this movie!!!!!!!
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 1/20/2023, 9:53 AM
Don't be so hard on yourself, Bruce.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 1/20/2023, 9:58 AM
I guess I need to watch this again. I remember seeing it and thinking “ok, cool…” and not really having a strong opinion about it. Came here to comment that I don’t get the hype but now I feel like if I say that it will be the most hated comment I’ve ever made on this site and I b***h like a mofo on here a LOT and have been banned before, so…. I’m gonna go watch this again and then come back with hopefully a more agreeable perspective.
TREE24K
TREE24K - 1/20/2023, 11:04 AM
@SummersEssex - following for the update.
BoW
BoW - 1/20/2023, 12:26 PM
@SummersEssex - A reasonable person on the internet?

Hope you enjoy it. Curious to see your thoughts after the viewing.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 1/20/2023, 10:15 AM
I saw this in the theater on Christmas Day back in '93! There were about six people, including myself, in the theater!
It was great!👍😉
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 1/20/2023, 10:37 AM
Went to see it in the theater with my best friend when it was released. Even though we were young, it still seemed special. My favorite Batman film to this day.
TheRose
TheRose - 1/20/2023, 10:55 AM
I'll always maintain that this is a great Batman film, but not the best Batman Film (I'll stick with The Dark Knight or the Lego Batman movie for that title).

However, where is succeeds is being the best BRUCE WAYNE movie. The story helps you understand more of the cost that Batman takes on Bruce's hopes and dreams. I'm convinced that the relationship with Rachel in the Nolan films drew direct inspiration from Bruce's relationship with Angela.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/20/2023, 6:15 PM
@TheRose - I 100% agree with The Lego Batman Movie being a top notch Batman movie. It really nailed the whole Batman is his real identity and Bruce Wayne is the mask angle.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 1/20/2023, 11:06 AM
Mask of the Phantasm is easily one of the best and most perfect Batman films ever.
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