Batman Casting & What The CBM Users' Opinions Are On Them

Batman Casting & What The CBM Users' Opinions Are On Them

I have analysed the comments on articles relating to Ben Afflecks casting as Batman compiling data and opinions about them.

Editorial Opinion
By Guido - Aug 26, 2013 07:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: ComicBookMovie.com

Ben Affleck has been cast as Batman/Bruce Wayne and there’s nothing fans can do about it despite attempts such as the petition which is just a silly idea. From looking at the comments on CBM movies I have compiled some very rough and slightly untrue figures on the general attitude towards it:

41% don’t want Affleck in the role
33% think we should give him a chance because of the Joker previously having been a good looking gay cowboy
26% are amazed by how controversial this is and by how many comments there are
17% think Affleck would is a great choice for Batman/Bruce Wayne
13% think that he has won Oscars for his acting so must be good (these people are idiots)
10% are DC fans saying all the comments are by Marvel trolls
8% are saying that we all need to get lives
6% are Marvel trolls
4% are written in incomprehensible gibberish
2% are proper Marvel trolls (as in the big, green, dim witted, and scary things (they could be responsible for the gibberish))*

As I said these facts aren’t completely true in the strictest sense of the word
*Contains traces of bulls**t
I will now address each one of these.

I’m with the 41% as I don’t want to see Affleck in the role but think that a petition is a waste of time as all petitions are. I also think that killing him is a little extreme (at least wait to see if he does well or not)

The 33% who reference the uproar against Heath Ledger in my opinion are making a poor contrast. Heath Ledger had proven himself as a great actor who could play just about any role brilliantly. Ben Affleck has proven himself as a great director but has yet to impress me with any of his acting (I doubt Affleck gives a single monkey poo about impressing me and this is not what he is aiming for)

The 26% are wasting everyone’s time with their comments. Of course there are lots of comments. It’s Batman. Everyone gets excited when there is Batman
I don’t agree with the 17% personally, nor can I see where they are coming from. He just isn’t right for the role because he can’t do badass
As said before the 13% are idiots. He has only won Oscars for directing and writing

The 10% need to shut their whining and remember this rule: if you are trolled then you troll back

The 8% need to go to a different site. What is CBM for if not getting arguing about the casting of Batman

Can the 4% please have their keyboards confiscated until they learn to write? If they persist then they must be shot (I hope that doesn’t seem a little too grammar Nazi)

The 2% should also be shot as they are dangerous
Please leave comments on who you think should play Batman opposite Henry Cavill. In my next article I was make address each of your suggestions and tell you how wrong you are. Unless you choose correctly in which case I will tell the world (the part that reads the article at least) that you are a gentlemen of lady of exquisite taste.

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maninfinesuit
maninfinesuit - 8/26/2013, 8:13 AM
Affleck can do badass a lot better than Bale. His John Connor made Sam Worthington look good.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 8/26/2013, 8:25 AM
Which percent am I in?
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 8:34 AM
Great article, you may want to edit for grammatical mistakes, because you´re going to get roasted for it. I agree, I´m part of the 41%, I don´t hate Affleck or wish to petition against him or have him killed (at least until I see a trailer):) But on a serious note, I just can´t think of anyone worse than him. I don´t even think he´s too famous, I would give Brad Pitt, Matt Damon or even Mickey Rooney the chance to play Batman. I would actually defend them asa choice because I know they´re good actors. Yes, I´d think there were still better choices and yes I´d still prefer a newbe but I know and have confidence that when Matt Damon or Brad are in a role, within 15 mins of their performance I forget its them. Ben Affleck is just always Ben Affleck. Even in Argo which everyone admits is a great film and the academy nominated him for his directing efforts, noone nominated him for his acting. There´s a reason, he isn´t a character actor.
I also agree with Heath Ledger. I will admit I was a bit of a naysayer with Heath Ledger, but I was willing to give him a chance. He was new, I hadn´t seen him for the past 20 years play the same Bostonian blue collar douche bag or romantic lead. Heath Ledger was uncharted territory. I was more upset about who didn´t get it. Ben on the other hand, I would rather anyone accept Ben. He´s a nice guy but he ain´t no Batman. I will only see Ben Affleck on screen, I know it. I mean picture him as Bruce Wayne in a love triangle with Lois. I´ll literally want Superman to hurt him, slow and painful style. I don´t want this rich douche coming in and complicating one of the most beloved romances in literary history, with Ben´s personal style of sleazy, gucci wearing, latharionism. I´ll feel like taking a bath the first time I see him as Bruce wayne trying to be slick. Even worse, try and imagine him as Batman with his greatest weapon the Batchin.
Anyway my pick is Michael fassbender and they should have gone with a younger Batman, what is all this old, wiser Batman. Just because Goyer and Snyder [frick]ed up the first film and made Superman look like a genocidal maniac, it doesn´t mean Cavill should suffer for it. I liked Cavill as Superman. It was the script not him. I think Fassbender and him would have worked wonders together. Anyway thats my 2 cents.

oh I´ll finish with this:
10 actors who would have made better Batmans than Ben Affleck
10. Andrew Lincoln from the walking dead
9. Josh Brolin
8. Clint Eastwood (yeah if they´re going older, go properly older, Clint is a better director and actor maybe he would have been better for the franchise) :)
7. Vladimir Putin (yeah the russian president, he would make a superior Batman. He does Judo and was a former KGB)
6. McLovin as Batman Chica chica yow I¨M BATMAN
5. Ryan Gosling (I hated him for Batman, but damn after this choice, bring me Ryan Gosling)
4. Arne Hammer (again like the choice above, I didn´t like him for Bats but he´s a far superior actor to Ben, I would have given him a go
3. kim kardashian - Thats how much I hate Ben for this role
2. Adam West - inject some much needed levity into that dark somber brooding humorless ocean of endless life lesson speeches that was MOS

1 This guy

Yeah even this guy reminds me more of Batman.
Great article again
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 8:38 AM
@aresww3, I hope you are being sarcastic because that is stupid.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 8:39 AM
By the way all the people who are talking about Heath Ledger and how we didn´t give him a chance and using that to Defend Affleck, I bet they were the most outspoken proponents of the view Ledger shouldn´t play The Joker. Because I wasn´t that upset. I knew he could act, I just didn´t know how well. Ben Affleck is a mediocre actor, his best performances are pretty, standard. Passable at best. He´s on the Keanu Reeves spectrum of acting.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 8:39 AM
Btw anybody who references Daredevil as a reason why Ben can't be batman don't know shit because they wanted josh brolin despite Johah Hex.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 8:40 AM
@highflyer - what is stupid?
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 8/26/2013, 8:40 AM
Fassbender is Magneto.

Stop it with these unoriginal fanboy picks.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 8:44 AM
@aresww3 , the guy with the hair. By the way, if you don't want people to use Heath Ledger as an argument then fine. There is RDJ as Iron Man, Michael Keaton as Batman, Anne Hathaway as catwoman, Daniel Craig as James Bond, Brandon Lee as The Crow, Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk, Edward Norton as the hulk and the list goes on.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 8:45 AM
@SotoJuiceMan, agreed.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 8:48 AM
@aresww3, have you considered the possibility that WB saw something in Ben?
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 8:56 AM
@sotojuiceman - I don´t want him off the movie, I want that whole [frick]ing team. I want DC and WB to start fixing up and making movies like they´re animated stuff which is excellent. I would love Zack Snyder because visually he´s amazing but Goyer lost it a while ago. If they had have pulled off MOS in grand fashion then I would accept it, but people are still justifying WB´s actions on the basis of The Dark Knight. They think Nolan is making these decisions and they love Nolan understandibly for what he did in the BB and TDK. But this is a new team. Snyder needs a new writer, which could have been Ben Affleck cause I respect the guy as a writer and director. If he loved the character that much he´d be willing to do that.
By the way I am not judging Affleck on the basis of Daredevil
Dazed and Confused -One of my favorite movies of all time (his best performance to date/he´s good but not the best thing about the film)
Good Will Hunting (Man I love that film so much/fantastic/his best film/ but that was the Matt Damon show all the way/Matt impressed me not so much Ben Affleck)
Argo (great directing but Alan Arkin stole the show acting wise not Ben)
The Town (which everyone goes on about, that is a throw away movie/ if you´ve ever watched Heist movies fromthe Italian job to a dogs day afternoon or Scorsesse crime flicks you´ll realise that movie is good but not excellent and what does Ben play, the same character he is in every film.

Please can someone argue with what I´m actually saying rather than bring up Daredevil. Alot of people against Ben Affleck being cast are not just basing it on stuff he did 10 years ago.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 9:11 AM
@highflyer
@aresww3 , the guy with the hair. By the way, if you don't want people to use Heath Ledger as an argument then fine. There is RDJ as Iron Man, Michael Keaton as Batman, Anne Hathaway as catwoman, Daniel Craig as James Bond, Brandon Lee as The Crow, Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk, Edward Norton as the hulk and the list goes on.

I was never against any of these people in these roles.
Anyone complaining about RDJ is plain crazy. The man is one of the best actors in the world period. I´d seen him in Chaplin where he played Charlie Chaplin. I´d seen him in little movies like Threesome which he´s excellent in and the list goes on.
Anne Hathaway also had proved herself in Rachel Getting Married, as well as, The Devil wears Prada, showing she had range.
Edward Norton. You have to be crazy to complain about Ed doing anything. Have you seen um Fight Club? American History X? The dude was once called the best actor of his generation.

I don´t remember that much complaint about Daniel Craig. I certainly didn´t care. As for Mark Ruffalo, the only reason I didn´t want him playing Hulk is because I wanted Edward norton to stay. I knew he was a great actor.

Ben Affleck is different. You may well have a different opinion but to me but I think he is an actor of the Keanu Reeves; George Clooney variety. i.e. they play themselves in every role. Plus he´s too cherpy to be Batman. He has this big great college boy, I´ve never had a problem in my life, I date Jennifer Garner, have two beautiful daughters and J´lO was my ex kind of smile and face. Anyone who plays Batman should have a weird smile. :) Just look at Keaton and Bale the best Batmans to date. I don´t know I might be wrong, but I think its a mistake and won´t pay to see it unless I hear he´s astounding in the role.

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Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 9:11 AM
Affleck is suitable for Bruce Wayne. But Batman is meant to scare the s**t out of the criminals of Gotham. Affleck has tried to do scary before and he can't, he always comes of as what he is: a nice guy. Batman is not that nice, he is slightly messed up and seriously focused on his goal. In response to highflyer's list: RDJ was obviously going to be a good Stark, Norton had proven himself as amazing before, Ruffalo was not an apt, Hathaway didn't capture Catwoman's personality, Keaton has the same problem as Affleck of not being scary and I've never seen the crow
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/26/2013, 9:12 AM
@aresww3 I didn't have a problem with any of those casting choices either but that didn't stop people hating on it. I mean people once tried to boycott casino royal and petitioned against keaton.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 9:23 AM
@sotojuiceman - I agree as writer, director no one can deny Affleck is an asset to DC/WB. The guy co-wrote Good Will Hunting, which is a hell of alot better than sucker punch or even Inception as far as I´m concerned. However even if you wanted to cast Ben in a role, did it have to be Batman. Why not an older, war veteran version of Hal Jordan Green Lantern? Much better choice for Ben. I´d be up for that. It could really rid us of the memory of Ryan. Also Keanu Reeves surprised me sometimes. Have you seen Devil Advocate? I loved him in that. I also think he made a good Neo, and between those two performances I can see Batman. What I meant though is that he often plays the same role so its really hard to gage what his range is. But he has the voice of Batman down as Neo. So not bad, I can see that.

But back to Ben,
"We never seen his audition, we never seen his ideas, and again this has been going on for months. This wasn't a random casting decision, this is something Zack sought out to get because HE felt he could do justice to the role, and this was for months. Months is a long time, in secret to which to exec's knowledge, they knew little to nothing about."
Look here´s the problem Soto, I don´t want to see his ideas, I really don´t want to see anymore of Zack´s bright ideas that aren´t purely visual. I defended that guy so much because Watchmen for me is the best comic movie of all time. I´ll be honest i straight up think that. But Watchmen was good because he kept almost exactly to the Graphic Novel, meaning his visual style could shine, but after Sucker Punch and MOS, I´m worried about any decision he makes. As for Ben, I just know in my heart of hearts nearly all the up and coming actors in the industry would have made for a more interesting take on the character. Anyone. The guy from Dredd, Fassbender, hell even Keanu Reeves. I´m serious Ben is so low on my list I didn´t even imagine in my wildest dreams or nightmares that he was in the running for that gig.
Good to have another debate with you man, its been too long.
Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 9:24 AM
We can all agree that Clooney was a s**t Batman. To further the point on Norton and Ruffalo I must say I was nearly cringing watching Ruffalo because I could picture Norton delivering the lines so much better. I also don't think Batman should be completely loved by the audience. There should be moments when they are scared by him. He has never been the perfect hero that Superman is and that should show. Instead they have a Superman who causes wanton destruction and kills his enemies next to a Batman who is going to talk the criminals out of doing bad things
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 8/26/2013, 9:29 AM
Affleck will play the role well. BOTH roles. Hes also going to be a valuable asset. If what their saying about helping Snyder with the story is true. You CANT deny that he can write. Well you can if your in denial. Hes also a comicbook fan, and I personally believe he is gonna love to prove all the haters wrong. What percent am I? The optimist?
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 9:34 AM
@guido - agreed. that is exactly as I felt about Norton. I think he could have taken those lines and still kept Bruce Banner fundamentally who he is. i.e. not like some second tier wise guy to RDJ. Although Ruffolo was excellent.

But anyway I would have paid the price of admission just to see RDJ and Norton verbally sparring with each other for real.
Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 9:43 AM
@aresww3 yes that would be awesome. They should have a Iron Man and Hulk film with mostly banter and then a fight.
@WYLEEJAY I agree that Affleck is a great director and writer, he would be better suited to replace Synder than be Batman though. He may be a comic book fan but I don't care, I read Batman comic books but I'm guessing that you wouldn't want me as Batman. The choice should be based on their acting which Affleck is not so strong in.
Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 9:44 AM
@WYLEEJAY you are clearly in the category that thinks Affleck is great choice due to the fact that you think that Affleck is a great choice
Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 9:53 AM
@SotoJuiceMan by perfect hero I meant more in Superman's boy scout kind of way. Batman should be more edgy. He will never be able to match superman in a fight but it should feel as though he could. A tough guy Batman shouldn't fear Superman outwardly and that would disconcert superman. Personally if they have this line from TDKReturns as the inspiration then it will work from: ...I want you...to remember, Clark... in all the years to come... in your most private moments... I want you to remember...my hand...at your throat... I want you to remember... the one man who beat you...
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 8/26/2013, 10:01 AM
Affleck was great in Hollywoodland, The Town, and Argo and supposedly his best acting job is in Runner Runner which comes out in October.

It's not his fault that most CBM fans are too young or ignorant to understand grown up movies.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 10:02 AM
@sotojuiceman - I don´t like this idea of Batman being older or wiser and having done this for sometime. It leaves to many holes. Like, if Batman was around during the invasion, why the hell didn´t he do anything? Also Batman and Superman have always been the same age. Part of me thinks this whole Batman helping Superman learn to be a hero, is because of the way audiences responded to the cataclysmic mistake he made in Gotham and the neck snap, so there trying to back track and now make that part of the movie. But surely other characters could have helped supes figure that out. To be honest the way they layed out the movie, I think there best option would have been do a WW movie and then make it so Bale, Wonder Woman and Supes are from seperate Earths/dimensions that are combined into one by some evil villain like Braniac. Trinity movie right there.
So its 3 warriors from separate worlds are forced to teamup to save a world they don´t know. That would explain why we have superpowered guys or superheroes who haven´t yet helped eachother when they face threats as grave as the kryptonians. They could have also brought Bale back for a movie like that or gone with someone new.
Either way, Batman wouldn´t look like some pussy who hid away doing nothing during the Kryptonian invasion, then he comes along, starts giving supes life lessons after superman saved the whole planet. I´m just not into seeing that. Because that is just being done to serve fans who LUUURVE Batman so much now that they don´t understand other superheroes are cool as well.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/26/2013, 10:05 AM
@jaysin40 - "It's not his fault that most CBM fans are too young or ignorant to understand grown up movies."
Are comments like this really necessary. Can´t you make your point without insulting people you don´t even know.
Guido
Guido - 8/26/2013, 10:24 AM
@SotoJuiceMan yes that is exactly what I mean Batman with a fear of Superman that is hidden behind his aggressiveness towards him but grows slowly. The story line should be continued from Bales Batman but it would make sense that by the time Batman had prepared and arrived in Metropolis that the invasion would be over. Batman would mistrust Superman from then on which would be the start of their partnership
quas666
quas666 - 8/26/2013, 12:47 PM
who the frak cares
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/26/2013, 4:44 PM
affleck is a better director than actor.
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