Harvey Dent Did NOT Die in The Dark Knight

Harvey Dent Did NOT Die in The Dark Knight

If you wonder why I believe Harvey is still alive, read this!

Editorial Opinion
By LittleBroBigBro - Aug 25, 2009 03:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman

OK, I just got done watching The Dark Knight and noticed something. Two-face is NOT dead. Let me explain myself. We all know that when his coin lands on clean heads, you live, and if it lands on the scratched out heads, you die. After Batman knocked Harvey off the building his coin landed on the clean heads. So, think about it, and take a look at this clip...


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Watchtower31
Watchtower31 - 8/25/2009, 4:07 PM
I think you're wrong
ALmighty1080
ALmighty1080 - 8/25/2009, 4:11 PM
wrong
TheBumblingIdiot
TheBumblingIdiot - 8/25/2009, 4:16 PM
two face is in fbi custody with elvis ans 2-pac
flames809
flames809 - 8/25/2009, 4:18 PM
he aint dead he still alive they didnt have a body hes probably in arkum
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 8/25/2009, 4:19 PM
He is dead. Dead as a doornail. He was not breathing when he was on the ground.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/25/2009, 4:21 PM
Well i gotta believe he aint dead ever since watching TDK when it came out!

After all he's too good a villain to just kill off straight away! ; )

Still it dont makes sense why BATS is on the run if he is alive!

BubastisTheLynx
BubastisTheLynx - 8/25/2009, 4:26 PM
Sorry to whoever made this but Dents dead.
flames809
flames809 - 8/25/2009, 4:31 PM
if he comes back or is shown in arkum ya r all wrong
longbowhunter
longbowhunter - 8/25/2009, 4:33 PM
As badly as I wish Two-Face was alive I dont see it. The reason Batman didnt die is because he is covered in armor. I mean he took a shot to the stomach and got back up. I gotta believe he can fall 40 feet and be okay.
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 8/25/2009, 4:37 PM
he'll come back cause no more joker. And if another actor plays joker i ain't gonna see this movie!
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 8/25/2009, 4:41 PM
He won't come back. Just because there isn't Joker doesn't mean Two-Face is automatically back. The Riddler will be the next villain I guarantee you.

It would be unrealistic if Dent survived the fall. A normal man would be dead, or at least severely injured, after a fall like that.
wheat4
wheat4 - 8/25/2009, 4:54 PM
Absolute rubbish. He's dead.
SabretoothTiger
SabretoothTiger - 8/25/2009, 5:31 PM
well tyler if he was severly injured than they could heal him right ive seen real videos of people fallin farther and on worse terrain and still survive why cant dent he survived the car crash when he shot maronie's driver i believe he could still be alive also aaron eckhart even said in an interview that he might be back tryin to find the link right now
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 8/25/2009, 5:37 PM
By severely injured I mean like permanently injured, like paralyzed.

People survive car crashes all the time, and Dent had his seatbelt on :)

And Eckhart said his character was dead as a doornail after he said he might come back.
SabretoothTiger
SabretoothTiger - 8/25/2009, 5:46 PM
ya but people survive fallin down mountains or gettin stomped on by a bull its not entirely impossible for dent to be alive and i havent seen the interview after that i remember him sayin that two face was dead and then he said in another interview that he might be in acoma or somethin but after that ive heard nothin maybe i missed it but all im sayin is that he couldve survived the fall but he could not have as well
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 8/25/2009, 5:53 PM
I hope he died, because with the ending TDK had, it would sort of all go to waste if Dent's actually alive, you know what I mean?
SabretoothTiger
SabretoothTiger - 8/25/2009, 5:58 PM
ya i mean im not mad if he is dead cause like you said della there are a lot of other cool villians out there i really wanna see like bane or deathstroke, someone like that hired to take bats out for his crimes but i mean ive seen worse things in real life than fallin like 40 feet down but he probably is dead so i say bring in bane and end this trilogy right
superdog
superdog - 8/25/2009, 6:13 PM
There's no way he's not dead. There would be no way to explain how he lived and why they had a public funeral as we saw at the end. It would be lazy storytelling. The overall arc of the dark knight was the rise and fall of Harvey dent. To not kill him would be stupid. I think the point of the coin was that to the public he is the white knight. The good side of the coin. As was told by gordons speech at the end. The needed everyone to remember the good Harvey. Therefore good side of coin.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/25/2009, 8:23 PM
Hes dead. Nolan said he was dead. HES DEAD!
Scotteeo
Scotteeo - 8/26/2009, 3:41 AM
Lol, well to be honest,I think the OP is right, but his reasoning is wrong. For those of us who read the graphic novels these movies are based off of, we all know the ending of Batman: Dark Victory. The book starts out with Harvey already turned into Two Face (Read The Long Halloween for how he became Two Face) and is in Arkham Asylum when he gets busted out, and continues a friendship with the new DA who he knew from their times at Law School. Now to the important fact, one of the biggest themes in the entire novel is when he resurfaces, people keep calling him Harvey, but Harvey responds rudely saying that he is no longer Harvey, and that Harvey Dent is dead. Now it is only Two Face. In the movie, they clearly let you know that HARVEY DENT is dead. They even throw a funeral for him to make sure he has a proper image of being Gotham's White Knight. They are naive enough to think he will stay locked in a guarded cell forever. But that's just my take on it. If they are trying to stay as true to the comics as possible, then Two Face is very much alive.
theFACE
theFACE - 8/26/2009, 5:47 AM
The fact that we are all debating it shows that he's more likely to be alive than dead. i know it looks like he's not breathing but that doesn't mean anything, a bit of CPR and he's back on his feet. I agree with Superdog, there are two sides to the coin, a good and bad, good and evil, one dies and the other lives, Harvey Dent is dead and Two-Face is alive.
Bamf7
Bamf7 - 8/26/2009, 8:11 AM
I guess it always IS possible that they could be trying to physically and mentally rehabilitate him at Arkham. It COULD be done right, but would be extremely hard to pull off. The biggest reason I don't think he's still alive, is simply that to bring the character back when he seemed dead could come off as typical movie cliche. Chris Nolan has done a good job and that doesn't seem his style. Now if someone ELSE does the next Batman movie...maybe.
Misterfan
Misterfan - 8/26/2009, 9:56 AM
dead as a bug on a wind shield.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 8/26/2009, 10:24 AM
I don't think anyone has the authority or facts to state either way. His death or 'death' was sort of open ended. We get a wide and brief view of his body lying on his back. If indeed there is a part where you see his coin laying clean-side-up, I would say LBB's argument has merit. I haven't seen TDK in a few months, maybe it's time to bust it back out. I have had an itch about his death myself, I remember his manner of death was the only thing I really had any issue with when I first saw the movie, I saw it as the only blemish really. I think it is incredibly likely that Gordon would lock him up in the deepest parts of Arkum if he'd survived, and he'd do so for many reasons. I also think this would be characteristic of him in a way with my knowledge of the character.
TheJester
TheJester - 8/26/2009, 10:33 AM
Why is this a topic? Dent will not be in the next batman anyways....
beckala63
beckala63 - 8/26/2009, 10:59 AM
I agree with Scotteeo. I appreciate that Nolan wants to keep his movies realistic, but they should still be staying true to the graphic novels as well. Two-Face is a major villain who deserves more movie time than just the end of one movie.

I do believe that Nolan had completely intended for Two-Face to be dead, but this was when he assumed the Joker would be back for the next movie. Now without the Joker, if he wanted to I think it would be plenty believable to bring Two-Face back for the next movie. Just say that the funeral was to help keep Dent's positive image with the public (and as mentioned above, good Harvey Dent is in fact dead), have him escape from Arkham, and then he's back as Two-Face. Seems simple to me.

Also, I love Nolan's directing of course, but what does he have against so many of the major characters in the books? According to most rumors, he is opposed to using Robin, Catwoman, or Penguin in any of his movies, but why? If he thinks they are too unrealistic, wasn't the Joker more unrealistic in the books too? I mean he went from supposedly falling into a vat of chemicals to just painting his face instead. Can't Nolan just make the others seem more realistic too as opposed to refusing to use them?
Joker1zero
Joker1zero - 8/26/2009, 11:37 AM
Nolan says he's dead. Eckart says he's dead. Two-Face is dead. Sorry. Disappointing but true.
beckala63
beckala63 - 8/26/2009, 11:59 AM
Yes, I agree that he was totally intended to be dead in the last movie. But since there is no script written yet (as far as we know), I'm just saying that if Nolan wanted to, he could still change his mind and bring him back in a believable enough way. I think it should still be considered as an option anyway.
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 8/26/2009, 5:53 PM
Scotteeo, what happened in print has very little impact on the films. Nolan has made it very clear that his batman exists in a separate universe than the comic book batman, so the comic cannon has little baring on the movie cannon.
Two face is dead, nolan said it, eckheart said it. He's dead. And Nolan isn't the type to retcon his own work so don't hold your breath for a miraculous revelation, he's well aware of the comic cliche of death and resurrection.
I mean how many times have we groaned about the meanlingless deaths in comic books? Did anyone think the that captain america would stay dead? Was anyone fooled? Two Face's death in TDK had meaning, it was soulful and well done. Why ruin that?
gotham
gotham - 8/26/2009, 10:29 PM
well interesting quote in the movie when they are all in the resturant harvey says something to bruce which he laters says to gordon after nearing dieing so maybe if two face didnt die which is unlikely he would of heard it and then knows bruce is batman and try to unval him in batman 3 which i think. the movie is going to be called gotham city which i have heard but dont quote me on that. anyway just think the riddler going to be in it but no johnny depp maybe someone like hugo wearing that would be cool. and megan fox as catwoman come on she so fit but hey no more catwoman unless they bring zombie catwoman in with racheal dawes coming bk from the dead so did she die who knows. NO ROBIN night wing yeah and if going to bring joker bk big mistake heath ledger done a brillant job so dont spoil it by bringing someone else in who not going to bring us the same breath taking stuff like heath did god rest he soul. anyway enough of me get bk to ya when i hear any more news about the new batman
TheUnknown
TheUnknown - 8/27/2009, 5:17 PM
I once heard that Harvey Dent died, the whole funeral and ceremony was for him, but Two-Face did not die.
superdog
superdog - 8/27/2009, 5:40 PM
He's dead. Geez. The next movie should be called The Caped Crusader.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 8/27/2009, 9:24 PM
Hmmm... Harvey Dent should be dead. That is how the story was suppossed to go, and as of now, hes dead as the others had said. The thing is, were talking about a movie made about a comic book, two mediums that are infamous for bringing popular characters back to life in ridiculous ways. Just look at how they brought Cap and Sups back. If Nolan keeps true to his story, Dent will remain dead, but if someone else gets the gig, Im sure they come up with some convoluted way to explain how Harvey survived and escaped to cash in on the big-name character. Money talks in hollywood, know what I mean?
BizzaroMike
BizzaroMike - 8/28/2009, 8:32 AM
Scotteeo makes a good point. I always thought that Maroni and Rachel Dawes both surviving similair falls was kind of a hint that 2Face survived. Especially as Maroni says a fall from that height won't kill a person. Plus if he's dead, doesn't that make Batman a KILLER?
But then the script says he's dead. And it does look like he isn't breathing at the end, although that's hard to really tell, and wouldn't necessarily mean he's dead if some one revived him and they covered it up.
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