JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX Will Reportedly Play Out From Harley Quinn's Perspective; Musical Elements Explained

JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX Will Reportedly Play Out From Harley Quinn's Perspective; Musical Elements Explained

We know Lady Gaga will play Harley Quinn in the upcoming Joker sequel, but a new rumor points to the character having a much bigger role than we realized.

By MarkCassidy - Sep 13, 2022 05:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Joker

As we draw closer to Joker: Folie à Deux's production start date (cameras are reportedly scheduled to role in LA and New York this November), more details about Todd Phillips' sequel are starting to slip through.

We recently learned that the majority of the movie will take place in Arkham Asylum, and a new rumor may now explain those much-discussed musical elements.

According to our old friends at the Weekly Planet Podcast, Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn will have a bigger role than originally reported, with the story playing out entirely from her perspective. Apparently, this is where the song and dance numbers come in, as Harls "views her relationship with Joker" through musical sequences.

Of course, the title "Folie à Deux" suggests that Fleck will share these delusions.

It's an interesting direction to take this sequel in, for sure, but Phillips has clearly earned a lot of trust at the studio after the first film proved to be a such a massive box office success.

Joaquin Phoenix and Zazie Beetz are set to reprise their respective roles as Arthur Fleck and Sophie Dummond, and we recently learned that Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener and Jacob Lofland have also joined the cast.

Joker: Folie à deux is set to hit theaters on October 4, 2024. You can check out the announcement teaser below.

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EskimoJ - 9/13/2022, 5:40 PM
Hmm... Cool.
Razorface1 - 9/13/2022, 5:41 PM
Yeah, that does make sense. Pretty excited for it.
CaptainDC - 9/13/2022, 5:41 PM
Intersting... although I'm still skeptical about the idea of a sequel to the first one, I do appreciate how they're taking a completely new approach. That type of creativity is what makes sequels worthy.
MosquitoFarmer - 9/13/2022, 6:31 PM
@CaptainDC - I’m always cautious about them overdoing or losing the magic of what worked in the first. But this one I’m optimistic for. Phoenix doesn’t really play around with the projects he chooses, and Todd Phillips did something I never would have expected given his comedies prior. Best I could hope for is that they tap Frank The Tank himself, Will Ferrell to play The Riddler in the third film, haha.
thekabsin - 9/13/2022, 8:26 PM
@CaptainDC - they trolled fans. It’ll be another low budget remake that they use the Joker IP to bank on. That’s why Scorsese produced the first and removed his name, it remade his movie. They are repackaging classic movies and instead of them being outright remakes they’re using the available IPs to exploit the fans they don’t respect because they know there’s a built in audience that will pay for anything Joker related. DC is in terrible hands and I don’t believe it gets better. I’ll stick with Pattinsons Batman but they’ve just about tainted everything for me from them.
TCronson - 9/14/2022, 12:20 PM
@thekabsin - Pattinson's Batman is literally repackaged David Fincher films (Se7en and Zodiac in particular, plus Fincher's visual style) and Silence of the Lambs, so they successfully fooled you into paying for anything Batman related and you didn't even notice, my congratulations.
MahN166A - 9/15/2022, 2:29 AM
@TCronson -

🤣🤣 You nailed him on that.
thekabsin - 9/16/2022, 8:21 AM
@MahN166A - nah, it’s different but I forgot how insufferable people are with their comic properties
Origame - 9/13/2022, 5:42 PM
That sounds about how most figured it would. And I think that's for the best. Or at least best way to do a sequel like this.
maxx - 9/13/2022, 5:44 PM
damn, shifting POV in the sequel is kind of great. if it gets a 3rd film would we see the wayne/batman POV?

alright alright, i’ll let this film get released before i start going down that rabbit hole. sorry guys, couldn’t help myself 😂
bkmeijer1 - 9/13/2022, 5:46 PM
@maxx - obviously from Duela Dent's perspective
Origame - 9/13/2022, 8:13 PM
@maxx - eh, I actually don't think I'd want to see this interpretation of batman.
bkmeijer1 - 9/13/2022, 5:44 PM
Makes sense that the musical bits are just delusions. I don't expect this to be a full-on musical where every important dialogue is done singing, but moreso like how that one The Boys episode suddenly burst into song and dance just for fun.
theredmeadow - 9/13/2022, 5:50 PM
Musicals suck
dracula - 9/13/2022, 6:03 PM
@theredmeadow - you must hate disney movies then

Not a big musical fan and most modern ones are bad but there are plenty of great ones
KWilly - 9/13/2022, 6:28 PM
@theredmeadow -
MosquitoFarmer - 9/13/2022, 6:32 PM
@theredmeadow - You tell me that The Blues Brothers sucks, and we can fight.
Fogs - 9/13/2022, 6:47 PM
@KWilly -
Feralwookiee - 9/13/2022, 7:15 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - I gotta agree with @theredmeadow overall, although The Blues Brothers is one of the very few musicals I give a pass too, because the movie is "in" on the joke and comes really close to breaking the 4th wall a lot.

I just can't deal with normal people suddenly breaking into song, and I know it's kind of a nitpick, but it doesn't work for me.

That said, I'll be a hypocrite and say, I love the musical bits in the South Park Movie and Team America, but again, the movie is spoofing the entire concept so I'm ok with it! 😁
GetsugaTensho22 - 9/13/2022, 5:51 PM
The bizarre and unique approach has me so hyped. I don’t think a direct, traditional sequel would be justified, but this is just the exact kind of freshness needed for this.
TheWalkingCuban - 9/13/2022, 5:53 PM
Interesting. Also if that’s her look, it’s pretty cool.
bobevanz - 9/13/2022, 6:00 PM
Someone tell doc to unblock me, so I can block him and not have to see his name everywhere 🥴 because fixing this bug seems out of the question apparently, or it's foul play lol
HulkisHoly - 9/13/2022, 6:40 PM
@bobevanz -

I can’t see his posts either for some reason.

I have seen and been called lots of hateful things and I haven’t blocked anyone. 🤷‍♂️

ProfessorWhy - 9/13/2022, 6:48 PM
@bobevanz - I have also been doc blocked for no apparent reason
TheWalkingCuban - 9/13/2022, 7:13 PM
@ProfessorWhy - whereas i been blocked by the Doc for apparent reasons
MyCoolYoung - 9/13/2022, 7:21 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - I blocked my doc for parent reasons
TheWalkingCuban - 9/13/2022, 7:35 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Until we reappraise mystery men, we can’t solve the mystery of why it reaps men’s praise.
MyCoolYoung - 9/13/2022, 7:53 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - at the end of the day, the end of the day, ends at the end of the day
TheWalkingCuban - 9/13/2022, 8:39 PM
@MyCoolYoung -
Real eyes
Real lies
Scarilian - 9/14/2022, 2:56 AM
@bobevanz -
Yeah... it's been a problem for quite a while. Unsure why it only impacts Doc :(
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