JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Box Office Also Falls Short Overseas; Will Likely End Global Run With 75% Less Than JOKER

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Box Office Also Falls Short Overseas; Will Likely End Global Run With 75% Less Than JOKER

No one at Warner Bros. Discovery will be putting on a happy face today because after a disastrous launch for Joker: Folie à Deux in U.S. theaters, the sequel also ended up underperforming overseas...

By JoshWilding - Oct 08, 2024 05:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Source: Variety

Yesterday, we learned that Joker: Folie à Deux earned only $37.8 million at the North American box office during its opening weekend. We originally expected a $70 million debut, though the number continuously dropped before landing around the $50 million - $55 million mark. 

As the weekend drew closer, though, $40 million started looking like the best possible outcome for the Joker sequel. However, it wasn't just domestically that the divisive movie underperformed. 

Variety reveals that it fell short overseas with a $77 million start. That's a noteworthy drop from Warner Bros. Discovery's $81.1 million projections on Sunday and another indication that moviegoers wholly rejected Joker: Folie à Deux whether they'd seen it or not.

Now, its revised worldwide total is $114.8 million. 

This is an unmitigated disaster; in 2019, Joker opened with $96.2 million in the U.S. alone and eventually grossed over $1 billion worldwide. Analysts currently believe the best this follow-up will manage is $275 million when all is said and done.

"I think the musical element was the wrong direction," Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations, tells the trade. "If you look at what made 'Joker' a hit, it was going to darker places. Todd Phillips wanted to do something completely different. But if you aren’t giving audiences what they want, I’m not sure who you’re serving."

With a $200 million budget before marketing, Joker: Folie à Deux will lose a lot of money for the studio and raise a lot of big questions about the DC brand's true value. The pressure is on Superman to deliver next summer, that's for sure.

In our review of the movie, we concluded by saying, "Lady Gaga shines and Joaquin Phoenix brings more of the same to Joker: Folie à Deux, a wholly unnecessary sequel with no new ideas and nothing to say. It doesn’t work as a movie or a musical. What a waste of $200 million."

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Joker: Folie À Deux is now playing in theaters. 

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Conquistador
Conquistador - 10/8/2024, 5:16 AM
Come on out @TCronson! I just want to see you say "i was wrong" :)
TCronson
TCronson - 10/9/2024, 2:45 PM
@Conquistador - I was wrong. It was the most shocking flop in a long time, no way to spin it. What avatar do you want? Deal is a deal.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 10/9/2024, 3:17 PM
@TCronson - You're a gentleman. We can leave it at that. I was also wrong, I don't see it making 500million.

I was right about Dune 2 being more successful though. 🤣.

Will give you credit though, you manned up unlike most of these other trolls.
TCronson
TCronson - 10/9/2024, 6:07 PM
@Conquistador - thanks, I would've replied earlier, but I was pretty busy this week.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 10/8/2024, 5:20 AM
The clown at the top will consider this a major win because the "wrong" fans didn't show up to support it.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/8/2024, 5:25 AM
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would bum a man, before throwing him out of a plane?
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NickScryer
NickScryer - 10/8/2024, 5:46 AM
Josh is steadily building his collection for upcoming lonely, autumn evenings.
LSHF
LSHF - 10/8/2024, 5:51 AM
"...But if you aren’t giving audiences what they want, I’m not sure who you’re serving."

The director.

This is really a bad period of time (theater going-wise) to be taking such monumentally financial risks with other people's money
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 5:58 AM
@LSHF - musicals are such a niche genre that it was a bad idea to give them so much money to make it from the start

I can see it being higher then something like La La Land which was made on a 30 million budget due to the period 80’s setting to an extent but still nowhere near 200 million (most of which went to the leads & Phillips who should have reduced their asking rate for this anyway given the type of film it is).
LSHF
LSHF - 10/8/2024, 6:23 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree 100%.

As you know, many directors/studios have made such arrangements as the example you gave.

It will be interesting to see what type of financial risks Warner/DC takes in the future.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 10/8/2024, 6:02 AM
Meanwhile; Todd Phillips, Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga continue to laugh all the way to the bank. 🫤
MisterBones
MisterBones - 10/8/2024, 6:02 AM
You get what you deserve
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 6:18 AM
God , I’m so tired of people talking about giving the audience what they want…

Half or most of the time they can’t even agree with each other so if you try to listen to them and make something according to that then it’ll never be done.

As I have said , it’s always best for creatives to tell the story that engages them in a manner that appeals to them the most and then hope others connect with it aswell (big or small).

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It’s unfortunate that the film has generally been negatively received and not done well but sometimes that just happens , it doesn’t mean you start bowing down to audiences who have their own disparate tastes & sensibilities.
LSHF
LSHF - 10/8/2024, 6:30 AM
@TheVisionary25 - On a mostly related topic, one internet film reviewer stated pretty much what we've already read PLUS that he felt the film would get more appreciation down the road as people get past not getting what they wanted to appreciating what they got in terms of what the director was striving for.

It somewhat reminds me of Glass and how it steered away from what fans wanted to tell what the director thought was a more compelling story.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 6:45 AM
@LSHF - god , we really need an edit button on this site…

That link is really bothering my OCD lol.

I do agree with you that it may happen since it’s happened with other films aswell
LSHF
LSHF - 10/8/2024, 6:50 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I miss the edit button.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 10/8/2024, 7:24 AM
@TheVisionary25 - God , I’m so tired of people talking about giving the audience what they want…

"There are only two tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it."

t. Oscar Wilde
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 7:56 AM
@Reeds2Much - well said by him

Satisfaction is hard to come by for many.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 10/8/2024, 6:23 AM
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AllsGood
AllsGood - 10/8/2024, 8:00 AM
No one at Warner Bros. Discovery will be putting on a happy face today because after a disastrous launch for Joker: Folie à Deux in U.S. theaters, the sequel also ended up underperforming overseas...

Meanwhile Terrifier 3 has gone up from 88% to a MIND BLOWING 92% at Rotten Tomatoes. Opening Night 8:00 P.M.

An impressively gory slasher movie with fantastic effects, strong characters, and of course a new genre icon in Art the Clown.

An impressively gory slasher movie with fantastic effects, strong characters, and of course a new genre icon in Art the Clown.

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Terrifier 3 Audience Reactions

dragon316
dragon316 - 10/8/2024, 8:18 AM
Not joker fan I never wanted see first one in theater I did I like first one this one doesn’t need sequel uncalled for make another trailer didn’t make me want go out see it allready saw one boring disappointing movie transformers one not going with another
Forthas
Forthas - 10/8/2024, 8:47 AM
It has been eleven years since Man of Steel debuted and Warner Brothers was at the height of their game. All they had to do was to pair The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel, follow the blueprint for those films and they would be on top of the world right now. But this studio decided to put their faith in oddball directors who don't care about fans or the source materials. Between Zack Snyder and his nihilistic world view, to Todd Phillips who all of a sudden thinks CBM's should be musicals to now James Gunn who wants to be the king of comedy, it is apparent to me that this studio has caused its own demise by letting directors run wild and ignoring its fan base
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 8:54 AM
Everyone thought Folie a Deux meant Joker and Harley. In the end it was Joker and anyone who thought Arthur was anything other than a pathetic sap who became a killer.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 10/8/2024, 10:13 AM
Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark!

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