JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Has Nothing To Laugh About Based On Opening Weekend Box Office Projections

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Has Nothing To Laugh About Based On Opening Weekend Box Office Projections

We're just a couple of days away from Joker: Folie à Deux opening in theaters across the globe and all signs point to the sequel starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga falling short of 2019's Joker...

By JoshWilding - Oct 02, 2024 04:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Source: Deadline

There's been a lot of DCU news over the past week from Lanterns casting to plans for animated Robin movie. It's almost as if DC Studios is trying to distract us from, say, an upcoming box office flop. 

While it would be a tad unfair to put Joker: Folie à Deux in that category at such a early stage, this weekend isn't shaping up to be a particularly good one for the sequel.

According to Deadline, the DC Comics adaptation is eying a $55 million - $60 million opening in North America and a worldwide bow of $140 million. Those numbers aren't too bad on the surface but when compared to 2019's Joker, they look far less impressive. 

Five years ago, that movie opened with $96.2 million, blowing past $80 million projections. It also exceeded expectations internationally to beat its $155 million forecast with over $248 million worldwide. 

Reviews for Joker: Folie à Deux haven't been as positive and fans who have already watched the sequel at early screenings haven't exactly raved about the movie. Joker scored 11 Oscar nominations and even won "Best Actor" for Joaquin Phoenix; whether it will be a hit come awards season remains to be seen (it's not like box office ever really matters in that respect). 

When it was recently put to Phillips that the Joker sequel cost upwards of $200 million to produce (the first instalment was made for $60 million), he responded, "I read these stories, and it seems like they’re on the side of the multinational corporations. They’re like, 'Why does it cost so much?' They sound like studio executives."

"Shouldn’t people be happy that we got this money out of them, and we used it to go hire a bunch of crew people who can then feed their families?"

Do you plan on seeing Joker: Folie à Deux in theaters this weekend?

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Phillips, who was nominated for Oscars for directing, writing and producing Joker, directed Joker: Folie À Deux from a screenplay by fellow Oscar nominee Scott Silver & Phillips, based on characters from DC. This follow-up was produced by Phillips, Oscar nominee Emma Tillinger Koskoff and Joseph Garner. Lady Gaga served as music consultant.

Joker: Folie À Deux arrives in theaters on October 4.

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Actor Calls Sequel The Worst Film Ever Made
Related:

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Actor Calls Sequel "The Worst Film Ever Made"

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX - Warner Bros. Discovery CEO Acknowledges Sequel's Disappointing Box Office Performance
Recommended For You:

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX - Warner Bros. Discovery CEO Acknowledges Sequel's "Disappointing" Box Office Performance

DISCLAIMER: As a user generated site and platform, ComicBookMovie.com is protected under the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) and "Safe Harbor" provisions.

This post was submitted by a user who has agreed to our Terms of Service and Community Guidelines. ComicBookMovie.com will disable users who knowingly commit plagiarism, piracy, trademark or copyright infringement. Please CONTACT US for expeditious removal of copyrighted/trademarked content. CLICK HERE to learn more about our copyright and trademark policies.

Note that ComicBookMovie.com, and/or the user who contributed this post, may earn commissions or revenue through clicks or purchases made through any third-party links contained within the content above.

kylo0607
kylo0607 - 10/2/2024, 4:54 AM
After that ending leak, I won't be seeing this.

Not only does it ruin the character, it retrospectively makes the 1st film worse as well.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 10/2/2024, 4:55 AM
The first film was a unique case of a mediocre movie that copied ideas and themes of better old movies and that, as one critic said, "Joker is a movie that has nothing to say and says it loudly", which for some reason got awards attention and was a great success at the BO. But the first Joker has aged like milk and now nobody cares about these movies.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 10/2/2024, 5:12 AM
I didn't like the first Joker movie very much but still I let myself be dragged into an early showing of the sequel.

As much as I didn't like the first one, the new movie is infinitely worse. It basically has no plot, is filled with bad musical numbers that come out of nowhere and worst of all, it's soooo boooring.

This is obviously just my opinion, but man I wished I'd saved my money ans spend my time on something else
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 5:14 AM
Now do a third movie about the second Joker that ends with him being killed by a kid with a " Damaged " facial tattoo who says, " why so serious? " As Jack Nicolson laughs and then he drives away with the ghost of Caesar Romero. Then sting it with, " Every Joker Will Return Soon In The Brave And The Bold" , over a still shot of Barry Keoghan
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 10/2/2024, 5:19 AM
This was one of those successful films that didn’t need a sequel. A 60 million dollar opening weekend is still pretty good and shouldn’t be viewed as a failure because it didn’t do as good as the first one.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 10/2/2024, 5:29 AM
@WruceBayne - An opening weekend of 60 million is very little for a movie that cost 200 million and is the sequel to a billion dollar movie.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 10/2/2024, 5:43 AM
@Moriakum - the first one cost substantially less than that. Oh well, it is what it is.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/2/2024, 7:47 AM
@WruceBayne - yeah

I can see the lower B.O being affected to an extent by some thinking it’s an unnecessary sequel but I don’t think it would have too much of an impact , same with the more mixed reception then the first one

However we do have to atleast consider the fact that while the first one made a billion , how many of that came from people who saw it and didn’t like it thus have no interest in this aswell?.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 10/2/2024, 8:39 AM
@WruceBayne - i’m trying to think of another sequel to a hit movie that arrived with such low expectations as this movie has.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/2/2024, 9:35 AM
@WruceBayne - "This was one of those successful films that didn’t need a sequel. A 60 million dollar opening weekend is still pretty good and shouldn’t be viewed as a failure because it didn’t do as good as the first one."

Except, historically, sequels tend to do better than originals on opening weekend. Especially if 140 million more dollars was put into the project and you're making less money.

It is in fact a failure. Maybe the general audience will love it and the movie will have legs, but right now it doesn't look like it.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/2/2024, 6:14 AM
"JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Has Nothing To Laugh About Based On Opening Weekend Box Office Projections"
User Comment Image
HermanM
HermanM - 10/2/2024, 6:22 AM
Good. Maybe the Joker mania that's been going since the Ledger era is finally wearing off..
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 10/2/2024, 1:02 PM
@HermanM - Or, they haven't had a good Joker since. Leto, Arkham, The Batman. None of them have been good.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/2/2024, 6:33 AM
You know they’re entirely regretting doing a sequel for this one right now…
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/2/2024, 7:12 AM
Regardless of how one feels about this movie or this duology overall , this is still unfortunate if true..

We’ll see how it does but I do think the curiosity factor that the first one had , atleast in part due to the discourse around that film at the time is no longer there for this one hence it likely won’t hit the billion that one did (though that doesn’t mean it can’t still be successful).

Plus , the musical element hurts too since it’s not a genre that appeals to everyone especially men.

User Comment Image

Plus we just need to come to terms with the fact that the B.O is just different now post pandemic then it was back in 2019…

Maybe we get a movie or 2 every year that is a grand success but that’s it.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 10/2/2024, 7:28 AM
Joker: Folie À Deux now has a Rotten Tomatoes Score 58% with 60 Reviews and Audience Score is Sinking Fast.

"Joker: Folie à Deux" finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

User Comment Image
Batmangina
Batmangina - 10/2/2024, 7:46 AM
Goddamn. Nobody saw DP&W blowing past the first Joker and this thing shitting the bed. Nobody.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 10/2/2024, 7:59 AM
This is why you don't make a sequel that costs 3x the budget of the original...
EZBeast
EZBeast - 10/2/2024, 8:00 AM
Correction, OVER 3x the budget of the original...
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 10/2/2024, 8:15 AM
@EZBeast - WB thought they were playing with house money due to the return on investment from the first one.

Then, they decided to make this one a musical for whatever reason and included an ending that will likely piss off most fans.
Now, because of the increased budget, this one will likely struggle to turn a profit.
Just some bonehead moves here by WB as usual.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 10/2/2024, 8:06 AM
If they ever make another Joker film hopefully they’re base it on the real Joker. That would be a far more exciting, and entertaining film.
Toecutter
Toecutter - 10/2/2024, 8:12 AM
What did they expect? I was against the 1st one being made. It came out, and I thought it was good, but you could tell they were scraping the bottom of the barrel to make a story worth telling. It was a success, but it is a movie that did not need a sequel, and from what I'm hearing, this one has even less of a story worth telling.
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 10/2/2024, 8:35 AM
I'm wondering if they made this before David Zaslav took over because I yave a hard time believing that his cheap ass greenlight a 190 million budget.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 10/2/2024, 9:14 AM
@Godzilla2000Zer - yeah they greenlit this like a few months after the first one
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 10/2/2024, 9:18 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - That makes sense
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/2/2024, 9:11 AM
Spoilers since you won't make a specific article for them:




If he wasn't even the Joker, what was the [frick]ing point? I hated that ending. First Harley doesn't kill herself, so you assume the explosion was her idea. It wasn't, she's randomly waiting on the steps for Arthur, just to tell him to basically [frick] off. Then he "has a visitor" at the end, which idk if it was Harley, or it was the setup for Heath's joker. He was going to get the death penalty either way, having him die like this was a waste and it was clearly a studio note to keep this dead franchise going. A couple of the musical numbers worked, but the majority of them felt random and out of place. it seems like they picked songs randomly just to sing or try to justify their actions through them, but it was not a musical by any means, it was a joker movie with people singing. And Harvey Dent got a scratch on his face lol, well it was lame as [frick].





Sheesh
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 10/2/2024, 9:15 AM
I get what he means by people should be happy the crew people got paid, and I am, but I think some of us just feel like that budget could’ve gone to other movies and gotten the same amount of crew people paid.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:46 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - yeah, I’d also like to see how much he and the “stars” made compared to the cast and crew. Guessing it’s probably pretty dramatic
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 10/2/2024, 9:37 AM
Financially speaking it's a wash. The first one made souch money in profit it could afford to blow the sequel. This movie with probably end up only having paid for itself but no real money will be "lost", just wasted.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/2/2024, 10:14 AM
Maybe this one will do like the first and exceed expectations. Don't underestimate the power of Ga-Ga fans.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/2/2024, 10:17 AM
Yeah saw this coming. The first movie was an anomaly, and there was also a bit of social media meme drive to its popularity. I haven’t seen any hype around this at all. People just don’t really seem interested.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 10/3/2024, 6:36 AM
Phillips was alleged to have stolen the ideas for The Joker. This Joker 2 disaster is like proof that he was too stupid to be responsible for The Joker.

Please log in to post comments.

Don't have an account?
Please Register.

View Recorder