GOTHAM P.D. Former Showrunner Terence Winter On Why He Left Scrapped THE BATMAN Spin-Off TV Show

GOTHAM P.D. Former Showrunner Terence Winter On Why He Left Scrapped THE BATMAN Spin-Off TV Show

Terence Winter was tapped by HBO Max to take charge of a Gotham P.D. TV series spinning out of the events of The Batman, and now explains what led to him leaving the project after "creative differences."

By JoshWilding - Dec 06, 2022 06:12 AM EST
Filed Under: The Batman
Source: The Wrap

The Penguin begins shooting in a few weeks, but the original plan at Warner Bros. was for The Batman to get a spin-off revolving around a corrupt cop in Gotham P.D. during the Dark Knight's first year in the city. Boardwalk Empire's Terence Winter was attached to develop the project, leaving fans with high hopes for the HBO Max TV series. 

He'd later leave due to creative decisions, with Joe Barton coming on board to replace him. Unfortunately, he was similarly unable to deliver what filmmaker Matt Reeves wanted, and the show has now been retooled as a story set in Arkham Asylum.

Talking to The Wrap, Winter confirmed his departure was "purely a case of creative differences," and went on to better explain why his version of the untitled series didn't happen. 

"We were going to do a gritty cop show that happened to be set in the world of the Gotham City Police Department. I did a couple of outlines and just never really got it there, I guess, for Matt Reeves and company," he explains. "We just decided to part ways rather than keep banging our heads against the wall, if we were seeing the show in a different way."

"But it was completely amicable and I know Joe Barton took a swing, as well. I think he ended up in the same place, and now they’re doing a show about the Penguin. I think it’s great."

"[Putting] the template of a gritty seventies cop show on top of Gotham City, this incredibly corrupt police department, that was really interesting to me," Winter continued. "I’m not particularly a fan of the comic book genre, but when they presented that, and I said, 'Oh, this is what I want to do,' I got on board.'"

It's a shame we didn't get to see the series become a reality, though it did sound very similar to Fox's Gotham. Shifting the focus to Arkham could mean a lot of Batman's rogues get to take centre stage, hopefully laying the groundwork for them to appear in Reeves' big screen sequels.

There have also been rumblings about standalone stories for those baddies, but nothing beyond The Penguin is officially greenlit.

What are your hopes for The Batman's corner of the DCU moving forward?

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regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 12/6/2022, 6:54 AM
Winter was the only reason I was interested in the GCPD show.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/6/2022, 6:55 AM
winter's cool, but i think the show would have had a difficult time getting the audience interested again after the crappy gotham show. As on paper it sounds kind of similar aside from happening pre batman.
GetsugaTensho22
GetsugaTensho22 - 12/6/2022, 6:59 AM
Gotham Central was an excellent comic and I was so annoyed when the TV adaptation pivoted to what became Gotham.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/6/2022, 7:04 AM
Just do a cop drama, we already had Gotham. More people will watch an Arkham show anyways. Mark my words, Mr Freeze is coming! A frozen wasteland due to the flooding, coming right after Halloween. This is their only shot, plus Reeves is a fan of Adam West Batman.. it's happening lol
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/6/2022, 7:54 AM
@bobevanz - I hope so. Freeze hasn’t gotten what I believe is a well deserved live action debut.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/6/2022, 7:55 AM
@bobevanz - Edit: …and I’m not talking about that abomination with Clooney and Arnie.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 12/6/2022, 7:13 AM
I’m sick of writers who don’t like the genre trying to mask their unrelated projects as comic book fare anyway.
KWilly
KWilly - 12/6/2022, 7:18 AM
An Arkham Asylum show sounds way more intriguing than Gotham 2.0
Fares
Fares - 12/6/2022, 7:22 AM
I would've loved to see the show he wanted to make.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 12/6/2022, 8:25 AM
"I’m not particularly a fan of the comic book genre".
Baf
Baf - 12/6/2022, 8:51 AM
It's funny how so many people say that they have never been fans of the comic book genre yet find those stories so interesting. Kind of a backhanded compliment. Comes off a tad elitist.
RedFury
RedFury - 12/6/2022, 9:49 AM
While anchoring things in a realistic world makes a comic book story a bit more believable, I'm still tired of the grounded approach to their stories, especially Batman. I loved what Reeves did, but I still want a more fantastical take on the dark knight and his villains.

We don't need to dive hardcore into the Lazarus pit or clay face literally being a monster man made of clay. But allowing characters like Mr.Freeze, and Bane to still have their sci-fi essence I think is important. I would really dread seeing a Mr.Freeze, that's allergic to the heat of the sun, and hangs out in air-conditioning all day. Or a Bane that is just some roid raged guy on speed.
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 12/6/2022, 10:00 AM
@RedFury - Whilst I agree with most of this, I say we've had enough serious / real world / realistic settings for Batman.

Bring on the Lazarus Pit & everything you can do with that. Lets see Batman facing Clay Face, Man Bat & more 'out there' villains than the usual mill of Joker, Two Face, Riddler, Bane, etc.

A more mythical take on Ra's Al Ghul & the use of the pit would be nice to see instead of how they introduced a realistic take on the character in Batman Begins.

Lets get Batman out of realism / 'gritty' for a change.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/6/2022, 11:01 AM
''I’m not particularly a fan of the comic book genre''

Don't say that too loudly, ''fans'' won't like that
Splash
Splash - 12/6/2022, 5:43 PM
Honestly, the last thing the world needs rn is another procedural.
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