The DCU Needs Its Own BATMAN Reaffirms DC Studios' Other Co-Chair

The DCU Needs Its Own BATMAN Reaffirms DC Studios' Other Co-Chair

It's not always about what James Gunn says as DC Studios co-chair Peter Safran also drives home the point that the DCU needs its own Batman.

By MarkJulian - Jun 26, 2025 06:06 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios
Source: Omelete

Despite all the comments and fan art of Robert Pattinson's Batman standing side-by-side with David Corenswet's Superman, DC Studios is standing firm in its decision to keep the world that Matt Reeves is building separate from the DCU.

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In a new interview with Omelete, DC Studios co-chair Peter Safran explained that Matt Reeves' Batman falls under the studios' purview as an Elseworlds tale, however they'll be a different actor under the Dark Knight's cowl in The Brave and The Bold.

I think we've been very clear about Batman. We love Matt Reeves, and we're dying to do Batman: Part II. Like I said, we're always going to do some projects that are primarily auteur-driven. Those are projects that we call Elseworlds,” he explained to the Brazilian entertainment site, as he also referenced the Joker films directed by Todd Phillips, which are not part of the new Superman universe.

Obviously, we need a Batman in the DCU, and so we’re developing ours as well, even though Matt’s movie is under our tent and part of DC. We’ll do Batman: Part II, hopefully, when Matt is really ready for it, when he turns in the script. And then we’ll also do our Batman and Robin story, The Brave and the Bold.

This echoes what James Gunn has been saying all along, that we'll have two cinematic live-action Batman actors playing the character at the same time- if and when Matt Reeves ever turns in his script.

More recently, Gunn stated that not only could there be two Batman actors at the same time, but there’s no strict rule preventing him and Matt Reeves from using the same Batman villains. While both the DCU and Reeves' Crime Saga fall under DC Studios and are developed with awareness of each other, character overlap isn’t off-limits. 

When announcing The Brave and the Bold as part of the Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters DCU slate, Gunn stated the film would center on Batman and his biological son, Damian Wayne, who would serve as the new Robin. Gunn described Damian as "a little son of a bitch" and an "assassin, murderer who Batman takes on." He emphasized it would be a "strange father and son story."

The movie will be heavily based on Grant Morrison's acclaimed Batman comic book run.

Andy Muschietti, who directed the DCEU's Flash movie, is currently attached as the director for The Brave and the Bold.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/26/2025, 6:56 AM

Fire Muschetti before it’s too late.

He will ruin everything.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 6/26/2025, 7:14 AM
@DocSpock - but James gunn said the flash was super amazing man?
Repian
Repian - 6/26/2025, 7:18 AM
@DocSpock - David Lowery to direct Batman.
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DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/26/2025, 8:10 AM
@SteviesRightFoo -

He was super drunk when he saw it.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/26/2025, 8:15 AM
@Repian -

Interesting. I could get behind it.
PC04
PC04 - 6/26/2025, 10:17 AM
@Repian - That is a inspired choice. I would love to see his vision for a Batman movie.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/26/2025, 6:56 AM
I agree wholefartedly
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/26/2025, 7:04 AM
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Keep them seperate imo…

Pattinson’s early years Batman already having a son that becomes his Robin doesn’t make sense to me so let’s stop the integration talks please.

I feel audiences are smart enough to understand that these are 2 different Batmen and won’t be confused when they come to watch the film…

As long as they make it as different and as fresh as possible from Reeves version by leaning into the comic-bookyness of it all & such alongside showing Bruce have this dysfunctional father & son relationship with Damian which is new to the big screen then we should be fine imo.
BisonScarBlood
BisonScarBlood - 6/26/2025, 8:01 AM
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UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 6/26/2025, 8:11 AM
Henry Cavill please.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 6/26/2025, 8:13 AM
They have to be waiting for Superman to premiere and to gauge how that does at the box office before stealing any of the limelight w/ a Batman casting.

I’m still hoping Alan Ritchson lands the role, and that aside from Damien, we also get Dick, Jason and Tim.

If it plays out like that, this will usher in the golden era of the DCU
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2025, 9:10 AM
@MuadDib - Dick and Jason are in Dynamic Duo which is tentatively DCU (but subject to change if they decide that it's not good enough or too good or whatever).
MuadDib
MuadDib - 6/26/2025, 9:54 AM
ObserverIO - Yeah, but I’m personally hoping that’s an else worlds story. Having Dick and Jason grow up together isn’t as preferable as Dick having been the first Robin for years, before Jason takes his place. That dynamic is much more interesting to me personally. Tim would be great, but I can understand if they just stuck to Dick, Jason, Damien and Barbara.
gulducati
gulducati - 6/26/2025, 8:49 AM
Since we're going more colorful and comic accurate with this universe, please give us the grey and blue costume. The closest we got was Affleck in the first scene of the Flash movie.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2025, 9:07 AM
"We're always going to do some projects that are primarily auteur-driven. Those are projects that we call Elseworlds,”

James Gunn has being talking it up saying that EVERY project would be auteur driven and would have it's own tone.
Is Superman not auteur drive? Answer: Of course it is. So this is a bullshit response.

You need your own Batman LMFAO, Battinson IS your own Batman! If you put him in the DCU then he's DCU Batman. The only way you would need a second Batman is if you chose not to put him in the DCU. You are creating your own problem. It's a non-existent problem. This is the opposite of what Zaslav hired you to do!

(I sincerely hope that this Superman movie is somehow not the shitshow that it looks like or both these CEO's heads are gonna roll. After watching the last two clips it'd be a miracle if it's as good as these tweets are saying).
PC04
PC04 - 6/26/2025, 10:20 AM
Having a Batman with a Robin is a good way to differentiate "THE BATMAN" from the Gunn inspired DCU. Also like other folks said, have Bats in the Blue/Grey suit. If we get Dick already as Nightwing maybe we can have Tim be this worlds Robin and eventually get a Red Robin.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2025, 10:25 AM
@PC04 - Y'know in most universes Batman has periods of working alone and periods of having a Robin.
PC04
PC04 - 6/26/2025, 10:27 AM
@ObserverIO - Yes. Being that we're getting two versions of Bats (allegedly), it'd be nice to see Robin work along side him once again. We haven't had a live action Batman and Robin since Batman and Robin in 97'.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/26/2025, 10:42 AM
@PC04 - What I mean is, it doesn't have to be a different version. The Batman trilogy can be before he had a Robin and Brave and the Bold can be many years later after he's already had a couple of Robins.
PC04
PC04 - 6/26/2025, 11:52 AM
@ObserverIO - Thank you for clarifying.
1stDalek
1stDalek - 6/26/2025, 4:02 PM
DCU will likely have 4 kids already (Dick, Jason, Tim and Cass) before making it 5 with Damian, while I think Reeve's will eventually show Bruce taking in Dick and dealing with his first kid. So people that don't understand that they are meant to be 2 different takes on Batman can at least see it as mid-career vs early-years Batman, and that will be enough to keep them engaged.

I think WB will be very excited at the prospect of making double the cash-cow Batman films, so they're not likely to think much about audience confusion or Batfatigue.
1stDalek
1stDalek - 6/26/2025, 4:10 PM
I would legit be surprised if The Batman films don't eventually have Robin attached. Part 1 made a big deal of orphans, the system failing kids, and the trauma of losing one's parents, that it feels like it's leading to a Flying Grayson's tragedy and Bruce deciding he can't leave the kid alone to become another Batman or Riddler.

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