BATMAN V SUPERMAN: Ben Affleck's Stunt Double Explains Why He Was Excited To Use Guns As Batman

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: Ben Affleck's Stunt Double Explains Why He Was Excited To Use Guns As Batman

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice came under fire (no pun intended) from many fans for Batman's use of firearms, and stunt double Richard Cetrone has now addressed what it was like to film those scenes!

By Nighthawk01 - Jul 22, 2020 02:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman
Source: Screen Rant

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was controversial for a lot of reasons, though it was the Dark Knight's use of firearms that proved to be problematic for most fans. Veteran stuntman Richard Cetrone doubled for Ben Affleck in the Zack Snyder's 2016 film, and he's now opened up about what that meant to him in an interview with the Batman v Superman: By the Minute podcast.

While comic book fans remain divided over Batman gunning down criminals in both the Knightmare sequence and the epic warehouse scene, for Cetrone, it just proved to be particularly enjoyable stunt work. 

In Knightmare, he was armed with both a handheld pistol and automatic rifle, mowing down men who had joined Superman's army. "I knew that we were going to incorporate the guns and not so much for the shooting aspect of the guns, but I knew that we were going to incorporate the guns in strikes," the stuntman explained.

"That seemed like that could be a lot of fun for me because I had guns in each hand, and I could incorporate them into the fights and go back to shooting and go back to fighting because the guys are coming at you in all directions."

He did, however, acknowledge how different it is to see a Batman using those weapons. "You have Batman walking around carrying guns, he's got a primary he's carrying on a sling, and he's got a secondary he's carrying on his hip, you never see that."

In Matt Reeves's The Batman, it appears as if Bruce Wayne wears the gun that killed his parents on his chest, so something tells us that he probably won't go anywhere near a single firearm in that adventure.

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dracula
dracula - 7/22/2020, 2:56 AM

that right there shows everything wrong with Snyder's version of Batman. Affleck was a good choice, but the direction they took it just is not a good adaption of Batman.

Snyder says it's naive to think people don't die in Batman's war, that is true, there is no way everyone survives, but there is a difference between people dying in a high risk situation, and Batman gunning down cars filled with people. Batman has had guns on his vehicles in the past, but they are usually non lethal or he uses them on people who can actually survive that stuff.
GothamSon
GothamSon - 7/22/2020, 3:01 AM
@dracula - ^ This, exactly.
dracula
dracula - 7/22/2020, 3:04 AM
@GothamSon - like seriously it could have worked as a new take, a batman who has lost his way, but then they have him hate superman for unintentionally causing death, while he is pretty much intentionally causing death, and then his change back just happens too quickly
GothamSon
GothamSon - 7/22/2020, 3:01 AM
Well, even Nolan's Batman trained in Gun Fu before becoming Batman. (This is my headcanon)

RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 7/22/2020, 3:14 AM
Much like the rest of Snyder's work, the only thing this Batman was good for was looking pretty.

All style, no substance.

Such a shame, because Affleck is a pretty great actor. This could've been so much more in someone else's hands.
Kyos
Kyos - 7/22/2020, 3:54 AM
"You have Batman walking around carrying guns, he's got a primary he's carrying on a sling, and he's got a secondary he's carrying on his hip, you never see that."

Now if only anybody had any idea as to why "you never see that"...
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/22/2020, 4:10 AM
I don't mind Batman using guns (maybe don't even mind killing), but atleast be consistent. If Batman has adopted almost intentionally killing bad guys, then Joker should've been long dead.

If Batman gets mad for Superman having the slightest chance absolute certainly bla bla killing potential, then he should definitely clip Harley (and not revive her like in SS) and Joker for killing Robin
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 7/22/2020, 5:48 AM
Everyone has a different version of Batman in their heads. Mine does not use guns.
RolandD
RolandD - 7/22/2020, 7:01 AM
@BillyBatson1000 - That would be every correct version.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 7/22/2020, 7:55 AM
@RolandD - My man.
OrionPax
OrionPax - 7/22/2020, 6:07 AM
Yup.And snyder said that fans should “grow up” if they’re mad about batman using guns.But I have a better idea,how about the guy spending millions of other people’s dollars to make a movie READS THE DAMNED SOURCE MATERIAL FIRST.And before anyone gets all whiney about it,no i’m not a Marvel guy,I’m a lifelong DC guy,which is why I can’t stand what Snyder did and now somehow has the ability to do again because people wanted MORE of his CBMs?............🤔
RolandD
RolandD - 7/22/2020, 7:08 AM
RolandD
RolandD - 7/22/2020, 7:08 AM
RolandD
RolandD - 7/22/2020, 7:10 AM
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 7/22/2020, 8:14 AM
Someone read Batman: Odyssey.

Poor, unfortunate fool.
RolandD
RolandD - 7/22/2020, 8:58 AM
@Reeds2Much - One of many reasons Neal Adams should stick to drawing. LOLOLOL
dracula
dracula - 7/22/2020, 2:07 PM
@Reeds2Much - how far neil adams has fallen
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 7/22/2020, 9:09 AM
The MAIN reason that Gordon can BACK Batman publicly (in cannon), is his resistance to lethal force/guns. If Gordon backed a vigilante he would be voted straight out of a job.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/22/2020, 10:03 AM
And we should all look to Batfleck's stunt double to see what Batman should be all about.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/22/2020, 10:21 AM
You know what else you never see? Spider-Man sexually assaulting people he catches in his webs. The Flash using his super speed to steal people's wallets. S̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶m̶i̶s̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶l̶d̶.̶ Actually, wait, Snyder's checked that one off the list, too, hasn't he?

To be fair, how are these movies supposed to take our virginity if the characters stick with their traditional mainstream characterizations?
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