Comic Book Store Owner Is Going Viral For His Comments That Modern Writers Don't Actually Love Superheroes

Comic Book Store Owner Is Going Viral For His Comments That Modern Writers Don't Actually Love Superheroes Comic Book Store Owner Is Going Viral For His Comments That Modern Writers Don't Actually Love Superheroes

Comic book readers around the U.S. are rallying behind comic book store owner Glenn O’Leary, who's blasting modern writers for inserting themselves into the story.

By MarkJulian - Dec 09, 2023 09:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

Comic book store owner Glenn O’Leary, who owns The Comic Book Palace in Massachusetts is drawing a line in the sand when it comes to modern comic book stories and writers.

A clip from the latest episode of The Comic Book Palace Reborn podcast is going viral, where Glenn discusses his belief that modern comic book writers don't love the characters as much as old-school writers. He asserts that modern writers don't care about the established personalities and character traits of classic superheroes and instead, want to place themselves under the mask.

Most of these new writers don't have the love of comics that these older writers had. And all they care about is, 'How can I put myself into the book?' But we don't care about what you would do if you were Iron Man. We don't care who you are, you're writing Tony Stark, you're not writing yourself in a book.

If that's the case, write your own comic, with you in it. No one would read it, because nobody cares. People grew up, loving Peter Parker, loving Miles Morales, loving Captain America- we don't need you to put your input in it, just write Steve Rogers. Don't write, 'What would Steve Rogers be, if I were Steve Rogers.' That's not how it works, but that's how most of these new people write nowadays. That's why most of the stuff is sh*#. 

We don't care about what you would do, because we don't care about your life whatsoever. Just write a book, get paid for what you're suppoused to be doing, and make it a good story. "

You can check out the full episode of The Comic Book Palace Reborn below.

However, as you can imagine, with Glenn's comments going viral, many comic book creators are weighing in to share their opinions. Fan response has been polarizing, to say the least.

You can check out some of the responses from a few well-known comic creators below.

In a now deleted Tweet, Jimmy Palmiotti wrote, "It is something I tell newer writers all the time, read all the history of the character and understand their motivations and why the audience fell in love with them. It will help you understand who they are so if you change everything about them, it’s in line with who they are."

He then followed up with:

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Where do you come in on the divide? Should comic book writers adhere to the stories and established personalities that have come before? Or does the artistic nature of the medium dictate that writers should be allowed creative freedom? Let us know in the comment section below.

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MosquitoFarmer - 12/9/2023, 9:47 AM


garu - 12/9/2023, 9:48 AM
when a guy looks like that, you know he's got nothing to lose
Doom17 - 12/9/2023, 11:14 AM
@garu - This actually made me laugh out loud. Well done.
Equivocal - 12/9/2023, 1:28 PM
@garu -

body shaming much ??

put yourself here and we will be judge of your looks.

garu - 12/9/2023, 4:04 PM
@Doom17 - You have a fantastic username and pfp, cheers.
Fogs - 12/10/2023, 4:50 AM
@Equivocal - It's a joke, lighten up.
McMurdo - 12/10/2023, 6:33 AM
@garu - I lold hard here
WarMonkey - 12/10/2023, 7:47 AM
@Fogs - Sure it's one joke. Problem is there are a ton of political activists on social media right now that have been absolutely vial and disgusting in their bigotry for this man. The things they have been saying about him with their superficial bigoted judgements are horrible and incredibly dehumanizing.
Fogs - 12/10/2023, 7:49 AM
@WarMonkey - Agreed and I'msick of it too. Clearly not the case here tho.
ClintThaHamster - 12/10/2023, 8:12 AM
@Fogs - Fat people have been hearing "it's just a joke, lighten up" our whole lives. It [frick]ing sucks.
Fogs - 12/10/2023, 9:21 AM
@ClintThaHamster - joke back dammit. Mature.
ClintThaHamster - 12/10/2023, 10:30 AM
@Fogs - Or, maybe we could just stop bullying people. That could be cool, too.
garu - 12/10/2023, 11:06 AM
@ClintThaHamster - soft.
Fogs - 12/10/2023, 12:42 PM
@ClintThaHamster - Lack of gradation perception imo. Black and white way of thinking won't take us anywhere.

Actually it does, to the shitty extremist world we're living.
EgoEgor - 12/11/2023, 2:35 PM
@garu -

He didn't have to do him like that.
DocSpock - 12/9/2023, 9:49 AM


And this was the guy voted best looking most buff comic book store owner who got the January page in their annual skin calendar.
Origame - 12/9/2023, 10:33 AM
@DocSpock - ah yes. Gotta comment on his appearance instead of his points because you know he's right and can't stand it.
NinnesMBC - 12/9/2023, 4:55 PM
@DocSpock - For being a guy that claims to love comic book characters all the way back to the 60s, implying you're an elder, you're really got a way with words. How classy.
DocSpock - 12/9/2023, 6:19 PM
@NinnesMBC -

Thank you.

NinnesMBC - 12/9/2023, 11:22 PM
@DocSpock - And you're damn shameless about it, screw you.
DocSpock - 12/10/2023, 1:52 AM
@NinnesMBC -

Not even if you bought me dinner & took yer annual bath.

ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/9/2023, 9:50 AM
Oh boy Glenn wait till you find out what old writers were doing lol
Origame - 12/9/2023, 10:36 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - if you're talking about how, for example, superman was written as a self insert for siegel and Schuster, well guess what? They get to do that because they made the character. If these modern writers want to write their stories, they should create their own characters.

But as this guy points out, they aren't gonna do that because they know no one will give a crap about them.
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/9/2023, 1:36 PM
@Origame - should blame the publishers for not letting them make original characters lol

Also every writer post Siegel and schuster have put their own touches on supes

Every writer post any new character creation has out their own personal touch on an existing character, we don’t have to play dumb as to why now it’s an issue but have a wonderful day in the basement
newhire13 - 12/9/2023, 1:53 PM
@Origame - 🙄 There are so many freaking comics and stories sharing these characters that it’s stupid to just keep doing the same thing over and over in every single book. Nothing wrong with experimenting with a character! If you don’t like that then pick up one of the other books with the character. Easy.
Origame - 12/9/2023, 2:49 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - own touch, yes. But there's a difference between putting an established character in a new scenario and just making them a self insert for you.

And stop acting like YOU don't know why this is really happening. The woke agenda.
Origame - 12/9/2023, 2:53 PM
@newhire13 - why do you think the only solution to having stories repeated over and over again is to just make the characters act out of character?

As an example, most fans want Peter and mj to be married as removing that marriage only led to either just repeating sh!t over and over again. And it's not like marrying mj is out of character.
krayzeman - 12/9/2023, 6:51 PM
@Origame - What is the woke agenda? Go back to sleep...zzzz
Origame - 12/9/2023, 7:06 PM
@krayzeman - the fact you are even asking that means you're just staying in bed
Fogs - 12/10/2023, 4:58 AM
@Origame - that's what took me out of tlregular comics, the lack of story progression. It's clear they just want to rehash the same stuff forever, hoping for the cash cow to ve reinvigorated at every new readers generation.

So I jist got to pickup some good manga like Berserk and can enjoy some really well-made and thought out work.
Superheromoviefan - 12/9/2023, 9:51 AM
i think he is wrong
puting themselfs into the book has nothing to do with it
ultimate spiderman was made like that and it was a good comic
Nightwing1015 - 12/9/2023, 12:48 PM
@Superheromoviefan - The original ultimate Spider-Man? Or the Miles Morales one? The original was hardly a Bendis self-insert character.
Superheromoviefan - 12/9/2023, 2:02 PM
@Nightwing1015 - well, he said he writes peter parker like he is himself
Nightwing1015 - 12/9/2023, 2:33 PM
@Superheromoviefan - Interesting, but I still think the situation with Ultimate is slightly different because its not 616 Peter. He was a slightly different character and he was allowed to be because that was the point of the universe.

Fans are more open to different takes if its not mainstream continuity whether that makes sense or not
Superheromoviefan - 12/9/2023, 3:13 PM
@Nightwing1015 -
disagree, people like it bc it was good
its ok to put yourself in the comic if you can make it good
Chaos200 - 12/10/2023, 3:20 AM
@Superheromoviefan - Well anything is ok if you can make it good, but we're looking for consistency here not outliers.
Superheromoviefan - 12/10/2023, 3:51 AM
@Chaos200 -
ok, how do you qualified that? every artist makes art based on their experiences
Chaos200 - 12/10/2023, 6:15 AM
@Superheromoviefan -
"every artist makes art based on their experiences"
Simpsons Comic Book Guy here is not talking about leaving a little of themselves in their character he's talking about NPC writers who are just writing themselves in to the book.
You need to stop pretending those two things are the same thing, because "here is what Batman would do, informed by my understanding of the universe" is not the same thing as "here's what i would do if Batman were me."
Good writers are forged in a crucible of real life, which is why this generation of writers keep on writing about people eating food & then talking about eating the food.
It's literally the only experience these people have.
Starbucks.
Superheromoviefan - 12/10/2023, 1:09 PM
@Chaos200 -
"here is what Batman would do, informed by my understanding of the universe" and "here's what i would do if Batman were me." is the same thing. can you give me an example of it that proves otherwise?
you mean people do whats popular to make easy money? welcome to the real world, things have always been like that
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