EDITORIAL: Marvel vs DC - Why They BOTH Suck And Who's To Blame!

EDITORIAL: Marvel vs DC - Why They BOTH Suck And Who's To Blame!

The war has raged for years between the two comic giants and the comic book movie explosion has only added fuel to the fire. Hit the jump to find out why BOTH Marvel and DC suck and what YOU can do about it!

Editorial Opinion
By NateBest - May 01, 2015 11:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Let’s be honest, you probably clicked on the headline thinking that this was another post by CBM’s very own “Human Torch” – Josh Wilding. I apologize in advance for disappointing you, or not, whichever the case may be.
 
I remember back when I would snag a comic from the spinning metal magazine stand of my grandparent’s meat market as I ran off to grade school in the morning.  Later I would work at grocery stores and pull comics off the shelves to read on my break in the coffee room while gulping down chocolate milk… Let’s just say they were the “good old days.” The days when I could sit down and draw or paint the characters I read so much about.  That was before I got into computers… programming… databases… web sites. Then along came this crazy idea back in 2002 – “Let’s build a web site about all of these movies based on comics that are being created by Hollywood” – and all of the days, nights and years slaving away at a full-time job while building said web site in the evenings, early mornings and weekends for years on end.
 
Here I sit 13 years later... Though circumstances have changed – CBM has been my full-time job, plus overtime, over the last several years – there are two things that have remained constant – 1) My love for comics and CBMs and 2) The great “Marvel vs DC” war rages on. The second has never been more apparent than today and I’m here to tell you why they BOTH suck.
 
Are you ready? Are you prepared to be blown away by this revelation I’m about to share with you? I hope so, but before I share, I have to tell you WHY I’m taking the time out of the hectic schedule of battling spammers, trolls, abusive users, illegal video download hijackers, feature creation, redesign implementation and a myriad of other things that there just aren’t enough hours in the day for… I recently read comments from some users expressing their dissatisfaction regarding ComicBookMovie.com, its content and its rather vocal user base. Comments like these really aren’t anything new, but I don’t know that I’ve ever really addressed them before… Sure I jump into chat every once in a while and talk to users... Sometimes users will email with feedback… But I’ve never actually took to the public forum that is CBM to reach out to the users and tell you what I think about it.
 
My first thought:  Go ahead and leave. You won’t find a BETTER place for comic book movie news, or a better place to share your thoughts regarding the CBMs we love and/or hate. We were the first site ever to dedicate itself entirely to CBMs and we’re one of the biggest, reaching millions and millions of people every month. We have the most active community of *any* of the related sites, which is why people love the site. You’ll leave, but you’ll probably be back. I’ve banned enough users to know that CBM is like crack for the comic lover.
 
My second thought: What kind of a pompous, arrogant, self-righteous, jerk would think something like that?! You can’t think about your users that way, they’re the ones that pay your bills! Without them CBM would be nothing! What can I do to make them happy and get them to stay? How about sorting comments by newest or oldest? Maybe a “Block” button so that they don’t have to read anything from those trolls that like to write an entire novel in the comments are of every article? Maybe a “Friends” feature so that they can keep tabs on what other users are reading, commenting or posting about? How about a new look that loads faster and includes a mobile version?
 
In the end I settle on a combination of the two… There’s one thing I’ve learned, and that’s that you can’t make everybody happy all of the time. You’re lucky if you can make some people happy every once in a great while.
 
I know, you’re thinking - “Enough already! Tell me why Marvel and DC suck!” – That IS why you clicked on the “flametastic” headline, right? Enough beating around the bush - YOU are the reason that both Marvel and DC suck.
 
Let that sink in for a minute… YOU are the reason that Marvel and DC suck. Neither of them will ever be better than the other. Superman will never beat Hulk. Iron Man will never beat Batman. Why? I hate to tell you this, but it’s because YOU suck.
 
Now, when I say “YOU”, I don’t mean ALL of you. I’m referring to those of you that relish nitpicking every little thing about every character, big and small. Some of you like to focus on Marvel characters and movies, some tear down DC characters and properties. Some of you have absolutely no loyalty and nitpick both, as well as every other property, character and casting under the sun. “Spider-Man can’t have organic web-shooters!” “Superman can’t kill General Zod!” “Mark Ruffalo can’t play Bruce Banner!” “Wonder Woman HAS to have bigger boobs!”
 
You could also be one of those people that blast anyone that shares a different view than you do regarding some aspect of a character, film or property. YOU suck too. I hate to break it to you that way, but the truth can hurt.
 
How do YOU make Marvel, DC and every other comic property out there that has, or will have, the Hollywood treatment suck? It’s simple really – You ruin it for everyone else. Maybe it brings you pleasure to do so, or it could be a mental disorder that you should really take some time to speak with someone about… Preferably someone that’s licensed to do so… Maybe it’s just the day and age we live in… I don’t know.

Unfortunately a lot of you suck…
 
The good news is that I think there are even more of you that DON’T suck! I think that you would agree that it’s a GREAT time to be a fan. We’ve never had so many movies to see, or different ways to see them. The days of standing in long lines for hours to get into a movie to see Wolverine and his berserker rage are over. We can reserve our seats weeks, or even months in advance and drop into our seat just in time to see Krypton come to life on a mammoth sized IMAX screen. We have wonderful sites like ComicBookMovie.com that keep us up to date on current, past and future films. If you’re lucky you may even find a leaked photo, video, or friend! Hell, we have a second Avengers film in the theaters, Batman and Superman squaring off next year, plus Deadpool AND Suicide Squad films in the middle of shooting as I write this!
 
Back when I was into some pretty crazy extracurricular activities (*cough* cage fighting *cough*) I had a good friend who would always introduce me to people as “the toughest nerd you’ll ever meet.” Join me in celebrating the fact that it’s now cool to be a nerd. Be proud of the fact that you’re one of the relatively few who knows why X-Men: Days of Future Past and Avengers: Age of Ultron have two different Quicksilvers!
 
Share the love and don’t be one of THOSE users. Don’t suck.
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Darktower
Darktower - 5/1/2015, 11:39 PM
lol!! good one nate!


MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 5/1/2015, 11:39 PM


this is why I stay
pepe
pepe - 5/1/2015, 11:40 PM
To many letters... It gets me tierd and dizzy.... Dig?
NateBest
NateBest - 5/1/2015, 11:40 PM
@MarkyMarkRises - Thanks! I have to say that one of your comments I read earlier this evening (*technically* last night) prompted this... :o)
NateBest
NateBest - 5/1/2015, 11:42 PM
@Darktower - Thanks and I love that Mickey Mouse graphic!
NateBest
NateBest - 5/1/2015, 11:42 PM
@pepe - I apologize. Once I started typing I had a REALLY hard time stopping...
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 5/1/2015, 11:43 PM
@NateBest

I hope it didn't seem dicky.

I really do appreciate all the good things this site had to offer; guess I'm spoiled haha
beto
beto - 5/1/2015, 11:45 PM
Fox for the win!!!!

KingJames
KingJames - 5/1/2015, 11:47 PM
THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL NATE! :-) Thanks for your kind words and all you do for fans!



Josh Wilding take notes...
superotherside
superotherside - 5/1/2015, 11:48 PM


Good job @NateBest.
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 5/1/2015, 11:51 PM
I have made it no secret that the childish antics of the studio war fanboys have made this place next to unbearable. Fortunately, the block feature has helped some. I miss the old days where we could be critical, yet be respectful of each other.
Darktower
Darktower - 5/1/2015, 11:51 PM
I love this Site!! best place for comic fans..

trolls?.. they r not a problem for me!

TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 5/1/2015, 11:52 PM
Great article. I honestly love both Marvel and DC, and don't try to choose any over the other. They both put out great and interesting products. Heck, I'm loving what Fox is doing right now! I'm glad Marvel and DC are different. I enjoy the fun, family tone of the MCU. I love the more mature, Netflix side. I love the epic and adult-oriented films that DC puts out. Fox's more grounded films are an interesting alternative to the MCU.

Now, if a film is bad, it's bad. We can all have fun bashing the Amazing Spider-Man 2. But I'm not gonna make fun of anyone for their opinion of Man of Steel, or X-Men: Days of Future Past. We all have opinions, it's what makes the comments section fun, seeing other points of view on movies I love or hate. The variety of the comic book films that are being released right now is awesome!
NateBest
NateBest - 5/1/2015, 11:53 PM
@Ranger14 - Well said. I guess it really comes down to growing pains :o(
darkraven
darkraven - 5/1/2015, 11:53 PM
I couldn't agree more, and I am unfortunately guilty to some degree
BaneSmash
BaneSmash - 5/1/2015, 11:55 PM
Awesome job Nate.
FearTheLiving
FearTheLiving - 5/1/2015, 11:55 PM
I enjoyed your main message. Felt the Megan Fox thing came off a bit like self pity though and kind of didn't mesh well with the rest.

technodrome518
technodrome518 - 5/1/2015, 11:56 PM
What it really comes down to is this, only your OWN opinion matters on what YOU think about the DC and the Marvel movies. [frick] what any other person says or thinks about a certain character or movie. Because everyone will have their own stupid opinion about it and try to hype it up or bury the shit out of it. I get really sick and tired of reading post after post just crapping all over the hard work that directors, producers, writers and actors put into these CBM's.

We as FANS should be thankful and respectful that we even get to see these movies in our life time. We're NOT entitled to any of this, so don't even [frick]ing go there with the whole "Well I've been a fan since blah, blah, blah, and those companies owe me this beacuse I've spent X amount of dollars on their comics". That was your decision and those companies don't owe you or anybody else a goddamn thing, so get over yourself and stop being a [frick]ing loser!

It douche bags all over the internet and on sites like this that give CBM's and fans a bad name. I love this website and have for over 10 years, but some of the people on here are [frick]ing insane and entitled little bitches who think they know exactly what a CBM should be. Well guess what? YOU DON'T! And if you did, you'd be working on one yourself.

Nuff Said!
beto
beto - 5/1/2015, 11:57 PM
Flame wars are entertaining at times, but sometimes they're just annoying.

You know what? [Frick] it!

Batman doesn't have anything on Bond either
Raichu > Thor > Pikachu
Dash is faster than the Flash
Potter could kick Dr Strange's arse
MFLuder
MFLuder - 5/2/2015, 12:01 AM
Oh what the [frick] is this shit???
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/2/2015, 12:03 AM
"Unfortunately a lot of you suck…"

Lmao, whats also unfortunate is that most people who do suck don't even know it! Heck, I could suck and I wouldn't know it because THAT'S WHAT SUCKY PEOPLE DO!
v56
v56 - 5/2/2015, 12:04 AM
Flame off!
JamesMann
JamesMann - 5/2/2015, 12:06 AM
Maybe a “Block” button so that they don’t have to read anything from those trolls that like to write an entire novel in the comments are of every article?

NateBest
NateBest - 5/2/2015, 12:07 AM
@TheMarvelite - Yeah, you could say that... :o)

@FearTheLiving - I probably didn't word the incident very well... It definitely wasn't self pity. How many people can say they've been singled out by Megan Fox? :o)

No, it was really a big eye-opener. I never realized how much the negative and nasty comments can effect people that *real* people actually visit the site. After a while you kind of just get used to looking at the numbers and text on the screen.

You would be surprised at how many people I sit down to interview and when they see my CBM shirt say "I visit your site every day." In the end, you want *everyone* to love the site and say that same thing :o)
Darktower
Darktower - 5/2/2015, 12:08 AM
@NateBest

How about a mobile app for this Site?!
i think it would be great!

lol just throwing in some crazy ideas.

would really love an app..
beto
beto - 5/2/2015, 12:08 AM
It's ok if I suck, as long as @McGeee sucks too.
NateBest
NateBest - 5/2/2015, 12:10 AM
@Darktower - Now that I have the spammers and hijackers under control (knock on wood), I'm back to implementing the redesign, which includes a mobile site ;o)
MrAisA
MrAisA - 5/2/2015, 12:19 AM
Blistertrailer
Blistertrailer - 5/2/2015, 12:20 AM
I visit the site every morning, sometimes 3 or 4 times a day. It is the best. It has the information, I speak to loads of friends who never receive the scoops even days before I do on CBM. I appreciate what you do thanks for that.
Darktower
Darktower - 5/2/2015, 12:22 AM
@NateBest

Cool!! keep up the awesome work!

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