The Best CBM Ever: The Final 2 - Winter Soldier or The Dark Knight! Plus vote for the best CBTV

The Best CBM Ever: The Final 2 - Winter Soldier or The Dark Knight! Plus vote for the best CBTV

The final 2. Is Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight the best CBM of all time, or Captain America: The Winter Soldier - the film that made Cap cool?

Plus we have 64 CBTV shows to vote for

Editorial Opinion
By ossie85 - Feb 23, 2017 01:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

See the last article over here....

The Battle

Pick one film from each battle (copy and paste into comments), or leave it blank if you can't choose. You can still vote if you haven't seen a particular film in any particular battle. I'll count the votes, and the winning film goes to the next round, the losing film is eliminated.

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier v The Dark Knight

Big decision guys! Cap or Batman?

AND, if keen, vote for the best CB TV show of all time! (Details on how selected at end of article). This is a mixture of animated and live-action.

 

1 Daredevil (2015-) v Dark Mater (2015-)
2 Spider-Man (1994-98) v Static Shock (2000-04)
3 Wolverine and the X-Men (2008-09) v Batman and the Super 7 (1978-80)
4 iZombie (2015-) v Constantine (2014-15)
 
5 X-Men (1992-97) v Night Man (1997-99)
6 The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-09) v Outcast (2016-)
7 Preacher (2016-) v Teen Titans (2003-06)
8 Smallville (2001-10) v The Superman/Aquaman Hour of Adventure (1967-68)
 
9 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010-13) v The Incredible Hulk (1982-83)
10 The Flash (2014-) v Powers (2015-16)
11 Batman (1966-68) v Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987-96)
12 Batman Beyond (1999-2002) v Justice League Action (2016-)
 
13 Lucifer (2016-) v Avengers Assemble (2013-)
14 Human Target (2010-11) v Silver Surfer (1998)
15 Superman: The Animated Series (1996-2000) v The Incredible Hulk (1977-82)
16 Green Lantern: The Animated Series (2011-13) v The Tick (2001-02)
 
17 Adventures of Superman (1952-58) v Supergirl (2015-)
18 The New Batman Adventures (1997-99) v Ultimate Spider-Man (2012-17)
19 Justice League (2001-04) v Spider-Man (1981-82)
20 Tales from the Crypt (1989-96) v Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013-)
 
21 Batman: The Animated Series (1992-95) v Wonder Woman (1975-79)
22 Young Justice (2010-) v Legends of Tomorrow (2016-)
23 Spawn (1997-99) v Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)
24 Luke Cage (2015-) v Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends (1981-83)
 
25 Justice League Unlimited (2004-06) v The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians (1985)
26 The Middleman (2008) v Human Target (1992)
27 Agent Carter (2015-16) v Gotham (2014-)
28 Spider-Man (1967-70) v Guardians of the Galaxy (2015-)
 
29 The Walking Dead (2010-) v The Batman (2004-08)
30 Jessica Jones (2015-) v The Kid Super Power Hour with Shazam! (1981-82)
31 The Marvel Super Heroes (1966) v The Flash (1990-91)
32 X-Men: Evolution (2000-03) v Arrow (2012-)
 

Results From Final 4
 

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (45) defeated Captain America: Civil War (25)
It was pretty close for a while, but the Civil War fans obviously voted early, as last few votes were just an avalanche towards Winter Soldier.
 
2. The Dark Knight (57) defeated Iron Man (13)
The Dark Knight smashed Iron Man. Iron Man performed great, as a great film should, but Batman too strong.


The Details

8 categories created for CB TV Shows, and they were seeded based on imdb scores (not perfect, but better than Rotten Tomatoes which I feel struggles with TV shows). The 8th category is 'Other' (i.e. non Marvel or DC, and I just tried to pick 8 shows a huge list, If I've missed a show you like... I'm sorry)!

 

Marvel Live Action
1. Daredevil (2015-)
2. Jessica Jones (2015-)
3. Agent Carter (2015-16)
4. Luke Cage (2015-)
5. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013-)
6. The Incredible Hulk (1977-82)
7. Powers (2015-16)
8. Night Man (1997-99)
 
Marvel Animated (20th Century)
1. X-Men (1992-97)
2. Spider-Man (1994-98)
3. The Marvel Super Heroes (1966)
4. Spider-Man (1967-70)
5. Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends (1981-83)
6. Spider-Man (1981-82)
7. Silver Surfer (1998)
8. The Incredible Hulk (1982-83)
 
Marvel Animated (21st Century)
1. The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010-13)
2. The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-09)
3. Wolverine and the X-Men (2008-09)
4. X-Men: Evolution (2000-03)
5. Guardians of the Galaxy (2015-)
6. Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)
7. Ultimate Spider-Man (2012-17)
8. Avengers Assemble (2013-)
 
DC Live Action (Current)
1. Lucifer (2016-)
2. The Flash (2014-)
3. Preacher (2016-)
4. iZombie (2015-)
5. Arrow (2012-)
6. Gotham (2014-)
7. Legends of Tomorrow (2016-)
8. Supergirl (2015-)
 
DC Live Action (Formerly Aired)
1. Adventures of Superman (1952-58)
2. Human Target (2010-11)
3. Batman (1966-68)
4. Smallville (2001-10)
5. Constantine (2014-15)
6. The Flash (1990-91)
7. Human Target (1992)
8. Wonder Woman (1975-79)
 
DC Animated (20th Century)
1. Batman: The Animated Series (1992-95)
2. The New Batman Adventures (1997-99)
3. Superman: The Animated Series (1996-2000)
4. Batman Beyond (1999-2002)
5. The Superman/Aquaman Hour of Adventure (1967-68)
6. Batman and the Super 7 (1978-80)
7. The Kid Super Power Hour with Shazam! (1981-82)
8. The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians (1985)
 
DC Animated (21st Century)
1. Justice League Unlimited (2004-06)
2. Young Justice (2010-)
3. Justice League (2001-04)
4. Green Lantern: The Animated Series (2011-13)
5. Justice League Action (2016-)
6. Teen Titans (2003-06)
7. Static Shock (2000-04)
8. The Batman (2004-08)
 
Other
1. The Walking Dead (2010-)
2. The Middleman (2008)
3. Spawn (1997-99)
4. Tales from the Crypt (1989-96)
5. The Tick (2001-02)
6. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987-96)
7. Outcast (2016-)
8. Dark Mater (2015-)
 







 

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ossie85
ossie85 - 2/23/2017, 2:19 PM

Thanks for voting everyone!
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Erzengel
Erzengel - 2/24/2017, 1:50 PM
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/23/2017, 2:22 PM
The Dark Knight easy. Phenomenal film.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/23/2017, 7:17 PM
Wow so far Winter Soldier is winning 20 to 12, very surprising.

Loved both movies but I'm going to be a sore loser here and point out that I guess there really is more MCU bias here than in the real world.

Comparing Rotten Tomatoes - TDK: 94%, TWS: 89%
Comparing Imdb - TDK: 9/10, TWS: 7.8/10
Comparing Box Office - TDK: 1 billion, TWS: 700 million
Comparing Metacritic - TDK: 82%, TWS: 70%

Thanks again to @ossie85 for making and managing this!
Philip
Philip - 2/24/2017, 1:45 AM
@Elayem - You should also include that RT critics gave TDK an average rating of 8.6, while TWS has 7.6.

The issue here, I believe, is that people are not voting for the "best" film, they're voting for the one they prefer.

TDK is the best CBM ever, but it is possible that TWS is more liked among "comic fans".
ICStoopedPeople
ICStoopedPeople - 2/24/2017, 7:07 AM
@Elayem - :)

You need a hug, buddy?
Lurchadamo
Lurchadamo - 2/24/2017, 8:23 AM
@Philip - "TDK is the best CBM ever"...not a fact bro, that's an opinion...I loved both movies but I felt TWS was the better movie and the more enjoyable...also, know I'm in the minority but I found Batman Begins to be the best out of the Nolan Trilogy
Philip
Philip - 2/24/2017, 8:28 AM
@Lurchadamo - It can never be an absolute fact, no, but it's close to it. Generally, critics and fans both favor TDK. Then you can go technical, such as performances, direction, script, cinematography etc, which is harder to make a general statement about and my personal opinion carries little weight within that area.

ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/24/2017, 9:36 AM
@ICStoopedPeople - Yes please. My life is an unending pit of misery now that TDK is losing on this site
ICStoopedPeople
ICStoopedPeople - 2/24/2017, 11:06 AM
@Elayem - This will be awkward if TDK comes from behind, though.
GarthRanzz
GarthRanzz - 2/24/2017, 12:56 PM
@Lurchadamo - I agree with you about Batman Begins being the best of the trilogy. it is my favorite CBM ever. But TDK was more enjoyable that TWS. I binge watch these CBMs, and finally grew bored of TWS after many viewings. The Dark Knight hasn't lost me yet.
JamesPunn
JamesPunn - 2/25/2017, 10:55 AM
@Elayem @Philip - Can't people just have different opinions?
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/25/2017, 11:06 AM
@JamesPunn - Absolutely. You misunderstood my point. All I was saying was on this website, more people think TWS is the better film. In the real world, more people think TDK is the better film.
JamesPunn
JamesPunn - 2/25/2017, 11:27 AM
@Elayem - Your source for the real world is just other websites that share your opinion though.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/25/2017, 11:38 AM
@JamesPunn - Not at all. Do you not know how any of those websites work? They're aggregators. Those scores aren't one opinion, they are the average of hundreds of opinions to form a consensus.
The Dark Knight rating on imdb is from an average of 1,757,728 fan ratings.
JamesPunn
JamesPunn - 2/25/2017, 11:58 AM
@Elayem - I understand how those websites work, but you shouldn't dismiss people's opinions from one source because a separate source disagrees with them.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/25/2017, 12:41 PM
@JamesPunn - I'm not dismissing anyone's opinion, all opinions are essential for fair representation.
This isn't about disagreeing sources, this is about reliability and accuracy.
Clearly those aggregate websites are more accurate for general consensus than this fan forum.
This website provides a smaller sample size which causes less accurate information.
This survey has a sample size of 44.
Rotten Tomatoes has a sample size of 200 to 300.
Imdb has a sample size of 500,000 to 2,000,000.
The box office has a sample size of 100,000,00 to 140,000,000 (Those who saw the movie).

44 voter's opinions on this website matter and I'm not dismissing them, but they are a tiny part of a larger whole, and they become irrelevant when compared to 2,000,000 voter's opinions.

I feel ridiculous getting this analytical over something as trivial as comic book movies but it just helped to get my point across.
DellRusk
DellRusk - 2/23/2017, 2:24 PM
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 2/23/2017, 2:28 PM
1. Daredevil
12. Batman Beyond
15. Superman: The Animated Series
18. The New Batman Adventures
19. Justice League
21. Batman: The Animated Series
22. Young Justice
24. Luke Cage
25. Justice League Unlimited
29. The Walking Dead
30. Jessica Jones
32. X-Men: Evolution

I know it's only had 3 episodes, but I think Legion might be the best comic book tv show of all time.
NoMeaning45
NoMeaning45 - 2/23/2017, 2:29 PM
The Dark Knight
NoMeaning45
NoMeaning45 - 2/23/2017, 2:30 PM
Wait, we're picking 8 and voting head to head at the same time?
ossie85
ossie85 - 2/23/2017, 2:33 PM
@NoMeaning45 - No, sorry, just voting on head to head
NoMeaning45
NoMeaning45 - 2/23/2017, 2:35 PM
@ossie85 - oh, ok
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/23/2017, 2:31 PM
Ugh. Winter Soldier I guess.
MUTO123
MUTO123 - 2/23/2017, 2:31 PM
This is tearing me apart... but I feel like I gotta go with Winter Soldier.
Jaspion
Jaspion - 2/23/2017, 2:33 PM
I know TDK is gonna get it, but I have a special love for Cap, so:

Captain America: The Winter Soldier


As I've said, for 2 Cap movies to get this far (and only having 4 movies against 8 of Batman), it's already a victory.
Menks123
Menks123 - 2/23/2017, 2:33 PM
Captain America: Winter Soldier.

This shit was hard, especially with Batman being my favorite hero. Still haven't gotten the definitive comic Batman on screen yet, Batfleck is promising but we shall see next year.
NoMeaning45
NoMeaning45 - 2/23/2017, 2:34 PM
1 Daredevil (2015-)
2 Spider-Man (1994-98)
3 Wolverine and the X-Men (2008-09)
4 Constantine (2014-15) (Haven't seen IZombie yet)

5 Haven't seen either
6 The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-09)
7 Teen Titans (2003-06)
8 Smallville (2001-10)

9 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010-13)
10 The Flash (2014-)
11 Haven't seen either
12 Batman Beyond (1999-2002)

13 Haven't seen either
14 Haven't seen either
15 Superman: The Animated Series (1996-2000)
16 Green Lantern: The Animated Series (2011-13)

17 v Supergirl (2015-)
18 The New Batman Adventures (1997-99)
19 Justice League (2001-04)
20 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013-)

21 Batman: The Animated Series (1992-95)
22 Young Justice (2010-)
23 Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)
24 Luke Cage (2015-)

25 Justice League Unlimited (2004-06)
26 Haven't seen either
27 Gotham (2014-)
28 Haven't seen either

29 The Walking Dead (2010-)
30 Jessica Jones (2015-)
31 Haven't seen either
32 Arrow (2012-)
Jaspion
Jaspion - 2/23/2017, 2:38 PM
1 Daredevil (2015-)
2 Spider-Man (1994-98)

5 X-Men (1992-97)
6 The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-09)
7 Preacher (2016-)
8 The Superman/Aquaman Hour of Adventure (1967-68)

9 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010-13)
10 Powers (2015-16)
11 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987-96)
12 Batman Beyond (1999-2002)

13 Avengers Assemble (2013-)
14 Silver Surfer (1998)
15 Superman: The Animated Series (1996-2000)
16 The Tick (2001-02)

18 The New Batman Adventures (1997-99)
19 Justice League (2001-04)
20 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013-)

21 Batman: The Animated Series (1992-95)
22 Young Justice (2010-)
23 Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)
24 Luke Cage (2015-)
25 Justice League Unlimited (2004-06)

27 Agent Carter (2015-16)
28 Guardians of the Galaxy (2015-)

29 The Walking Dead (2010-)
30 Jessica Jones (2015-)
31 The Marvel Super Heroes (1966)
32 X-Men: Evolution (2000-03)
Philip
Philip - 2/23/2017, 2:38 PM
The Dark Knight. It's the best CBM ever.
Ignition
Ignition - 2/23/2017, 2:38 PM
The Dark Knight
LaserKing
LaserKing - 2/23/2017, 2:39 PM
Cap all the way. Winter Soldier for the win.
JDL
JDL - 2/23/2017, 2:42 PM
1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Menks123
Menks123 - 2/23/2017, 2:42 PM
1 Daredevil (2015-)
2 Spider-Man (1994-98)
3 Wolverine and the X-Men (2008-09)
4 Constantine (2014-15)

5 X-Men (1992-97)
6 Outcast (2016-)
7 Preacher (2016-)
8 Smallville (2001-10)

9 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010-13)
10 The Flash (2014-)
11 Batman (1966-68) Used to watch the reruns when I was younger, loved it lol.
12 Batman Beyond (1999-2002)

13 Lucifer (2016-)
14 Silver Surfer (1998)
15 Superman: The Animated Series (1996-2000)
16 The Tick (2001-02)

17 Supergirl (2015-)
18 The New Batman Adventures (1997-99) v Ultimate Spider-Man (2012-17)
19 Justice League (2001-04)
20 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013-)

21 Batman: The Animated Series (1992-95)
22 Young Justice (2010-)
23 Spawn (1997-99)
24 Luke Cage (2015-)

25 Justice League Unlimited (2004-06)
26 Never saw either
27 Agent Carter (2015-16)
28 Guardians of the Galaxy (2015-)

29 The Walking Dead (2010-)
30 Jessica Jones (2015-)
31 Never saw either
32 X-Men: Evolution (2000-03)
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 2/23/2017, 2:53 PM
The Winter Soldier no question about it.

Heck I like Batman Begins more than TDK
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