MONEY, MONEY, MONEY - how much did the 2013 and 2014 CBMs make?

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY - how much did the 2013 and 2014 CBMs make?

The numbers are still being crunched for AGE OF ULTRON, ANT-MAN and FANT4STIC, but which recent movies are they looking to match for money? Was Amazing Spider-Man 2 really a financial flop, and Iron Man 3 a powerhouse? Which fan-favourite film didn't actually do all that well? Click the link to find out!

Editorial Opinion
By ossie85 - Sep 27, 2015 09:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Comics


This maybe old news, and apologies if somebody has already posted, but I've stolen borrowed data from our good friends at deadline to really look at what where the most profitable CBMs of 2013 and 2014 (they don't, I think, have information for the 2015 films yet).

The films I'm looking at are:
 - The Amazing Spider-Man 2
 - Big Hero 6
 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
 - Guardians of the Galaxy
 - Iron Man 3
 - Man of Steel
 - Thor: The Dark World
 - X-Men Days of Future Past

Box Office numbers don't tell the full story, and if you are interested to know how Deadline calculated these numbers, I'll put a list of inclusions and exclusions at the bottom. It's worth noting that these are still BEST GUESSES, as Studios don't release this information if they don't have to.


#1: Iron Man 3
Box Office: $1215m
Total Revenue: $1026m
Total Cost: $635m
Total Profit: $392m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.62

Fresh off The Avengers high, Iron Man 3 was a massive box office hit (and very divisive amongst fans). By far and away the most profitable film of 2013/14 by almost $200m, earning 62 cents for every dollar spent.


#2: Guardians of the Galaxy
Box Office: $774m
Total Revenue: $724m
Total Cost: $520m
Total Profit: $204m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.39

I don't think even Marvel expected a hit this big, a cool $200m profit, 39 cents on the dollar, and setting up what promises to be a huge franchise to come.


#3: Big Hero 6
Box Office: $658m
Total Revenue: $627m
Total Cost: $439m
Total Profit: $187m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.43

Often forgotten about as a CBM, Big Hero 6 quietly earning the 2nd highest Revenue/Cost ratio, and is the only one of these films to win a major Oscar.

#4: Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Box Office: $715m
Total Revenue: $636m
Total Cost: $470m
Total Profit: $166m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.35

A huge jump for Cap's sequal, and this sharp upwards trajectory bumped Thor 3 down the schedule. Critically aclaimed, its hard not to see Civil War doing larger numbers (though RDJ's salary alone will blow out the costs).

#5: Thor: The Dark World
Box Office: $645m
Total Revenue: $575m
Total Cost: $436m
Total Profit: $139m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.32

Although a critically average film, Thor: The Dark World overcome its production issues to post a sizeable profit. I think Disney think they can do better though.

#6: X-Men: Days of Future Past
Box Office: $748m
Total Revenue: $653m
Total Cost: $576m
Total Profit: $77m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.13

This one surprised me, making only 13 cents to the dollar, it really shows that Fox put all its X-Men eggs in one basket. If the film had not been well received, they would have made a substantial loss, but its strong box-office performance made this a profitable film. I really think, if these numbers are true, that Fox will be hoping for a better margin for Apocalypse (perhaps a lack of merchandise dollars hurt!)
 

#7: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Box Office: $709m
Total Revenue: $640m
Total Cost: $570m
Total Profit: $70m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: 1.12

This shows why that, despite making more boxoffice than Big Hero 6 and Thor: The Dark World and on par with Captain America: The Winter Soldier, why Amazing Spider-Man in some circles is considered a financial failure, and ushered in the end of this particular version of Spidey. Making only 12 cents to the dollar, I think they were aiming for Iron Man 3 money, but fell way below that mark.


#8: Man of Steel
Box Office: $668m
Total Revenue: ?
Total Cost: ?
Total Profit: $43m
Revenue/Cost Ratio: ?

Deadline gave the profit using the same methodology as above, but not the accompanying numbers. Though the VERY small profit would have its Revenue/Cost ratio most likely below 10 cents to the dollar. Critically mixed response, if Batman v Superman makes similar numbers, the DCEU will be in trouble. I think that BvS will make mountains though.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing if Age of Ultron and Ant-Man make this list, but I feel that Fant4stic is such a bomb, it might not make Deadline's analysis.
 

Included in Revenue
 - Domestic Theatrical/Non-Theatrical Release
 - Foreign Theatrical Release
 - China Theatrical Release
 - Domestic Home Entertainment
 - Foreign Home Entertainment
 - Domestic PPV/VOD
 - Domestic Pay TV
 - Domestic Syndication
 - Foreign Pre-Sales and Overages
 - Foreign TV
 - Merchandise
 
Included in Costs
 - Net Production Costs
 - Domestic Releasing Costs
 - Foreign Releasing Costs
 - Domestic Home Entertainment Costs
 - Foreign Home Entertainment Costs
 - Interest
 - Residuals and off-The-Tops
 - Participations
 - Overhead


 

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tonytony
tonytony - 9/27/2015, 11:04 PM
wow quickhook the troll around in all dc threads. its worth pointing out that man of steel made over 200 mil before it was even released in theatres. so if you add that to the figures which you dont have all of it would be pretty high on that list.

this site seems to be a disney site and thats why trolls like you get a pass
ossie85
ossie85 - 9/27/2015, 11:11 PM

@tonytony

Yes, the analysis doesn't include any product placement deals or anything, and although MoS deals were huge, I'm sure all the other films had product placement deals also.


Wasn't my intent to be 'anti-WB' or 'pro-disney', of the 8 major films across 2013/2014 5 were Disney, 1 Sony, 1 Fox and 1 WB. So it makes a bit of sense if Disney is more prominent than the others.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/27/2015, 11:32 PM
@Ossie85. your intentionWAS to be pro disney and anti wb. if not you might go back a few more years and include the dark knight and dark knight rises along with the hulk and cap 1. im tired of bullshit articles like this with agenda. but because its pro marvel no one on this site says anything.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/27/2015, 11:36 PM
also if your intention was to show profitability you would include those deals. you havent because mos 200 mil is the largest from any of those movies. also how can someone overlook 200 mil of revenue not split with distributors when calculating profitability? Thats because this thread is not about profitability. its another of those disney fan boy masturbation threads laced with agenda masquerading as objective analysis.
ossie85
ossie85 - 9/27/2015, 11:39 PM

@tonytony

Deadline only went back to 2013, I wanted to go all the way back to 2000 X-Men, but couldn't find consistent numbers. If you have a source, please let me know and I'll incorporate them. I found another site called the-numbers, which using a different methodology, has The Avengers ($686m), The Dark Knight ($554m) and Iron Man 3 ($437m) in the top 20 most profitable movies of all time, but that's about it.

I did this article because I like statistics. I don't subscribe to Marvel v DC (which is why I rarely comment)
ossie85
ossie85 - 9/27/2015, 11:41 PM

@tonytony

I know MOS had a lot of revenue from product placement deals, but if I included (or Deadline did) the $200m of product placement deals for Man of Steel, they'd have to include all the product placement deals for all the other films. None of these figures have product placement deals in them for any movie.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/27/2015, 11:57 PM
@Quickhook your endorsement is all anyone needs to see this is disney fanboy masturbation. also you are by far and away the biggest marvel dick sucking fan boy and dc hater on this site.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 12:08 AM
@Ossie85 if your intention was to copy deadline then you shouldnt have bothered. if you dont have enough data to do good analysis. then you dont do it. But doing objective analysis is not important. you just picked out a piece you could attack dc with and irrespective of the lack of data as long as it attacked dc you were happy
ossie85
ossie85 - 9/28/2015, 12:12 AM

My intention was to find a data source for movie profitability, and extract the data for just CBMs, Deadline was the best I found. More than happy to use a different source if someone could find one
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/28/2015, 12:30 AM
tonytony- dude leave the guy alone he didnt intentionally go out to attack MOS he simply made an editorial about how much the films made and without the product placement data for all of them/most of them what would be the point in solely doing it for MOS. most film companies dont broadcast how much they make from product placement and as a result any reliable data is difficult to come across.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 12:43 AM
and all the disney trolls rally.
TomSolo
TomSolo - 9/28/2015, 1:29 AM
@tonytony... Please lighten up a bit. As someone who enjoyed MoS, I can honestly say that I didn't read this article and feel thr author was in attack mode and out to prove something. Unless you have some sort of mind-reading powers, I feel it's rather rude of you to tell the author his opinions, especially when he was polite enough in his responses to you. It's fine if you think the article is bogus... You could just be a bit more cordial.
Kyos
Kyos - 9/28/2015, 4:13 AM
@tonytony

your intentionWAS to be pro disney and anti wb. if not you might go back a few more years and include the dark knight and dark knight rises along with the hulk and cap 1.

If the numbers went back far enough to deal with TDK the list would also have to include the numbers for Iron Man 1+2 and Avengers on the MCU side, and the not-that-great to abysmal numbers for Watchmen, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern. Not sure that'd help the case you seemingly want to construct here.

@ossie85

Interesting article! Would you mind including a source link to where you got that numbers from? :)
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/28/2015, 6:04 AM
@tonytony

Go back & read your editorial now that is bias,this is presenting the facts.Man Of Steel was a good movie nothing more nothing less.
Matador
Matador - 9/28/2015, 7:55 AM
Matador
Matador - 9/28/2015, 8:31 AM
LOL yeah me too.
Erik10101
Erik10101 - 9/28/2015, 9:33 AM
@tonytony

You're being really obnoxious. Sure there are plenty of articles here with Marvel/DC biased agendas (you've written one yourself, I see), but this is not one of them.

The facts are laid out in the article. The author explicitly mentions that BvS will redeem MoS's mediocrity. MoS simply wasn't a "rousing" investment like the other movies on this list, or even Iron Man 1 back in 2008.
PesciGotPepsi
PesciGotPepsi - 9/28/2015, 10:10 AM
wow Guardians and Big Hero 6 BEAT Man Of Steel

Pretty embarrassing.....
PesciGotPepsi
PesciGotPepsi - 9/28/2015, 10:14 AM
@tonytony

Wow you are so petty. How old are you?
All this guy does is write a pretty good article and you start calling him anti-DC? Come on bro.

You say you are being annoyed by Marvel trolls, but honestly you are the one continuing to do pathetic rants about this MARVEL VS. DC shit. Don't like it? then don't add heat to the flame
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/28/2015, 10:58 AM
pitt- i dont think you can blame the film not making much on critics when you see films like transformers which ahve not had good reviews earn billions and films like mad max praised by critics not earning much at all.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 11:31 AM
@Quickhook you mean like how cap got demoted to universe support? Or is it different because its marvel? Your a disney troll
Gab
Gab - 9/28/2015, 11:34 AM
Get them Tony Tony Tony! Lol this Shit Is Funny!
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 11:52 AM
You heard me you disney troll.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 12:04 PM
I was waiting for cap 3 instead im getting an avengers movie. its lmost like disney dont trust cap and have decided to change it to an avengers movie.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/28/2015, 12:06 PM
tonytony- cap is doing just fine and will undoubtably play a big role just like superman will
tonytony
tonytony - 9/28/2015, 12:12 PM
Thanks kinghulk your response is the adult response. however I asked quickhook.
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