Legendary Comic Book Artist Alex Ross On What He Believes Separates MARVEL Characters From DC Characters

Legendary Comic Book Artist Alex Ross On What He Believes Separates MARVEL Characters From DC Characters

Alex Ross is one of the few artists to have worked for the "big two", and while promoting his upcoming book Marvelocity, the legendary artist discussed what he feels separate Marvel and DC characters...

By VHernandez - Apr 03, 2018 08:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Comics
Source: EW
“Marvel or DC?” That’s a question many comic book fans have heard for decades. Yet, while some choose one company and their characters over the other, many artists and writers have worked for both.

Among those who have shared their talents with Marvel and DC, is the Marvels and Kingdom Come artist Alex Ross. So, it stands to reason that the legendary figure is familiar with characters created and owned by the big two.

While promoting his upcoming book Marvelocity, which he describes as the “Marvel version” of his Mythology, was asked a question that called upon his familiarity with both companies: What is the difference between Marvel and DC characters?

“What’s always separated the two for me is Marvel’s material has always had a kinetic quality to it, particularly based on the design aesthetics of Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby,” Ross said, first discussing the aesthetic qualities of the heroes. “DC characters are not defined by a singular artistic voice influencing all the rest, but that’s what happened with Jack Kirby’s leadership of the entire Marvel brand. Everything is affected by what he led the charge of. That 10 years where he created the majority of those characters in the ’60s, that’s what every artist and writer has built their process upon, including the movies today.” Ross' comments about Kirby influencing even the films about Marvel characters are undoubtedly true, as some of their more recent MCU entries like Thor: Ragnarok have drawn heavily on Kirby's designs.

Eventually the artist departed from the outward aesthetic differences and discussed how else the two sets of characters differ. “DC is the foremost component of where the DNA of what makes a superhero came from. They did the very first superhero in Superman, and the first great embodiment of the dark superhero in Batman, and of course the first female superhero in Wonder Woman,” the artist explained to Entertainment Weekly, establishing the importance and influence of DC’s superheroes. “The Marvel characters are all over the place in terms of what makes them unique, and there’s a hip energy that’s been instilled in them since their creation. Every other superhero company follows the mold of having their heroes follow those archetypes that DC embodies, but Marvel broke away.

Alex Ross and Chip Kidd's Marvelocity is currently set go on sale October 2 and will feature an introduction by 
Star Wars: The Force Awakens director J.J. Abrams.
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Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 4/3/2018, 8:56 PM
That was genuinely interesting. Clearly an honesty opinion.
VicSage
VicSage - 4/3/2018, 9:03 PM
DC's characters have always come off as god-like and ideal manifestations of archetypes. Their gods, aliens, and perfect humans. They are symbols. Larger than life.

Marvel's characters have always come from the approach of the most human struggles. Where Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman may come off as the ideal superheroes, the same cannot be said for say, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Thor, etc. (with maybe the exception of Captain America). Marvel has always approached these "heroes" as people who have circumstances thrust onto them and who consistently fumble, fail, struggle with their identity, place in the world, everyday life, etc.

One is not better than the other. It's just entirely up to the readers. Are you interested in following heroes who wear capes and fly and are gods among humans? Or are you curious to read a story about how you would likely deal with having superpowers?

I know some may disagree with this, but that's my take on the two.
Otis
Otis - 4/3/2018, 9:11 PM
@VicSage - Love it man, I agree. Whether I'm a Marvel or a DC depends on what side of the bed I wake up on. Love both to death, and I hope the two can keep propping one another up for years to come.
elcaballerooscuro92
elcaballerooscuro92 - 4/3/2018, 9:27 PM
@VicSage - everything that you said about DC is the reason i like them. The hope, the ideals and the campiness of those characters are what inspire readers and creators.
ParanoidAndroid
ParanoidAndroid - 4/4/2018, 2:26 AM
@VicSage - I agree all around sir .... cheers
SWelch
SWelch - 4/4/2018, 5:54 AM
@VicSage - Could not have said it better my self.
MasterMix
MasterMix - 4/3/2018, 9:10 PM
DC - Grander superheroes that feel more like gods that could never exist in the real world
Marvel - Down to Earth superheroes with real world problems that make them feel more real
MarDCel
MarDCel - 4/3/2018, 9:27 PM
@MasterMix - Agreed. I just love them both so much! Can't imagine my life without superheroes to be honest.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 4/3/2018, 10:06 PM
@MasterMix - That's a bit of an oversimplification though. Thor, Silver Surfer, Batman, and Green Arrow are just a few prominent examples that go against that mold
MasterMix
MasterMix - 4/3/2018, 10:10 PM
@MarDCel - Definitely. Ever since I was 5 years old.
MasterMix
MasterMix - 4/3/2018, 10:15 PM
@BIGBMH - I thought about that when I was typing it. Still, I can easily identify one from the other. A "Guess the superheroes comic company?" contest would be a piece of cake.
Bokis
Bokis - 4/3/2018, 11:02 PM
@BIGBMH - The interesting thing about Batman though is that he feels larger than life. When you play Injustice for example you believe that Batman could actually go toe to toe with Superman and punch people through walls. The same cannot be said for Iron Man or Hawkeye or other Marvel characters
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 4/3/2018, 11:08 PM
@MasterMix - You're a fan though. It's pretty hard to divorce ourselves from our knowledge of these worlds and their characters. I think for the average person with a basic impression of these characters, a lot of the more obscure ones would be harder to pick.
Matador
Matador - 4/4/2018, 5:23 AM
@BIGBMH - Batman & Green Arrow are both men with special skills sets BUT there both super rich.

To be honest I think Ironman & Ironfist are the richest guys in Marvel and both there names start with Iron.

I lost track of where I was going with it so hopefully someone might pick up my slack of thought.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 4/4/2018, 6:56 AM
@Bokis - That depends on the approach to Batman though. This expectation that "Batman can beat anyone with enough prep time" has led to the character being written as over-capable IMO. In stories like Year One, his limitations feel more human.

I'd argue that Cap often feels larger than life. Many Marvel heroes look up to him the way many DC heroes look up to Superman, even though many of them are technically more powerful than him.

SupermansTrunks
SupermansTrunks - 4/3/2018, 9:10 PM
I like the analogy of DC heroes being gods pretending to be human and Marvel heroes as humans pretending to be gods
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 4/3/2018, 9:23 PM
@SupermansTrunks - I don’t

Because Superman isn’t a God

Clark has god like powers but he doesn’t think himself a god. Clark doesn’t think himself no different from anyone else.

Clark is human. He’s friends with humans, goes to work with humans, eats like a human, pays taxes like a human

He doesn’t do these things to pretend he’s human. He does them because he believes he’s human.

Clark is a human with godlike powers. Only issue is he’s an alien. It’s like those videos of cats who think they are dogs because they spend so much time around dogs that they believe they are a dog. Clark is a cat & the dogs are humans
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 4/3/2018, 9:27 PM
This is why Lex Luthor sees Superman as a god

Because what god would willingly work a 9-5 job & pay taxes?

A god who doesn’t believe he’s a god
DerekLake
DerekLake - 4/3/2018, 9:30 PM
@LEVITIKUZ - One thing is true, though. For many of DC’s heroes (at least the core heroes like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman), the alter ego is the civilian role. It seems for Marvel Comics, the alter ego is the superhero (again, for the core heroes like Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, X-Men).

That said, I think the difference is simply that many of DC’s heroes are older or follow an older model, and they embody certain specific ideals. But, heroes like Flash and Cyborg aren’t all too different from Marvel heroes.
SupermansTrunks
SupermansTrunks - 4/3/2018, 9:47 PM
@LEVITIKUZ - Neat
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 4/3/2018, 10:14 PM
@DerekLake - "For many of DC’s heroes (at least the core heroes like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman), the alter ego is the civilian role."

I think that reflects the classic, original concept of the secret identity. Before superhero stories started being written in a way that gave importance to the personal lives of the characters, secret identities were treated more like the hero going undercover, "pretending" to be a part of society. The superheroics were pretty much their whole life, so there was nothing to the secret identities but the facade. Superman originated this concept while Batman and Wonder Woman were conceived of during this era.

When you start to flesh out the personal lives of the characters, their superhero identity feels more like just a part of who they are and the weight shifts more to the person behind the mask. The bulk of the Marvel characters were conceived of when this shift was happening.
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 4/3/2018, 10:15 PM
@LEVITIKUZ - This is why I love Modern Age Superman, and the Superman in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, because both of these clearly show that Clark is the hero if it weren't for the risk of his family and friends he would never be Superman. Superman is the disguise that gives him the freedom to use his abilities to help others, but if he lived in a world that didn't need a Superman, he would still be using his abilities to help whoever needed it, with or without the uniform, because that's just who he is. Clark's the hero. He always has been. Superman is his disguise.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 4/3/2018, 10:18 PM
@SisterSunday52 - can you go one day without talking about bvs and what it means to life
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 4/4/2018, 12:17 AM
@blitzburgh - I'm just saying that these interpretations really get Superman as an American immigrant from another planet who uses his abilities to help others because he wants to, not because he is told by his Kryptonian father that he is an alien Jesus.
Radders
Radders - 4/4/2018, 4:15 AM
@SisterSunday52 - except in MoS his dad told him he should probably have let the kids in the school bus die then he actually did let his dad die. Both of those things ruin that film for me as neither really make sense in Clark becoming Superman :-)

I go with the gods and humans point here - its always seemed clear to me as excellently summed up by @SupermansTrunks
hartley07
hartley07 - 4/4/2018, 8:52 AM
@Radders - i didnt mind that so much, it was the fact that his dad died to go save the dog. he saved some people sure, but he died saving the dog. Clark could've run out there at normal speed, protected his dad from the debris without anyone being able to see, and when the tornado goes by, they crawl out of a ditch and go hey we're alright! Problem solved.
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