DAREDEVIL Director Marc Jobst On Whether The Characters Will Translate To PG-13 BORN AGAIN

DAREDEVIL Director Marc Jobst On Whether The Characters Will Translate To PG-13 BORN AGAIN

Marc Jobst, who helmed key episodes of Netflix's Daredevil series, has given his thoughts on the upcoming Disney+ Born Again revival, and whether he feels the characters will "thrive" in a PG-13 setting.

By MarkCassidy - Sep 06, 2023 09:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: THR

Netflix's Daredevil series was cancelled after three seasons back in 2028, but at least three actors (that we know of) - Charlie Cox (Matt Murdock), Vincent D'Onofrio (Wilson Fisk) and Jon Bernthal (Frank Castle) - will reprise their respective roles for the upcoming Disney+ MCU reboot(?), Daredevil: Born Again.

While Netflix's take on the Man Without Fear wasn't particularly extreme, it was far from a family-friendly show. Even putting the occasional bouts of surprisingly brutal violence aside, it maintained a pretty dark, grim tone for the most part - a far cry from the usual Marvel Cinematic Universe fare.

Will characters like Daredevil, The Punisher and Kingpin be able to thrive in a PG-13 environment? That very question was put to One Piece director Marc Jobst, who helmed some key episodes of the Netflix show, and he simply doesn't believe Cox, D'Onofrio and Bernthal would have agreed to return if they didn't think it was going to work.

"So I’ve got no idea what they’re doing and how they’re approaching the Disney version of those worlds. I can’t imagine that Charlie, Vince and Jon would sign up for something that they felt was anodyne. They just wouldn’t do it. So in some form or another, Disney must have persuaded them to say, 'This is a journey worth coming on.'"

"The Marvel characters, if you ground them, if you dimensionalize them, if you give them a human frailty — and I don’t mean weakness — then the audience can believe them. If you just have them flying off into the sky without any kind of sense of being a human being, then it just looks a bit PG-13 or whatever," he added.

"In many ways, I came into storytelling because I think stories teach us how to be human. If you take a character and you put an obstacle in their way, then you want to see how that character overcomes that obstacle, so you can learn from that character and apply that lesson to your own life."

Cox already made his MCU debut as Daredevil in Spider-Man: No Way Home, before returning for She-Hulk as a noticeably more light-hearted interpretation of the character. D'Onofrio, meanwhile, showed up as the Kingpin in Hawkeye.

We recently learned that Daredevil: Born Again had been taken off Marvel Studios' Disney+ slate, but we should get an update as soon as the strikes come to an end.

What do you think? Will these characters translate to a PG-13 environment? Drop us a comment down below.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/6/2023, 9:25 AM

Figure out how to make it great, or don't make it.

Don't figure out how to DEI it to death.

Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/6/2023, 12:14 PM
@DocSpock - "Don't figure out how to DEI it to death."

I'm honestly just impressed with y'all's ability to keep up with the latest dog whistle acronym. First it was CRT, then SEL, then DEI . . . which irrelevant educational or business concept will you latch onto next, I wonder?
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/6/2023, 9:26 AM
Putting the quality of the writing aside, I feel like Daredevil absolutely can work in a hard PG-13 environment. Punisher not so much.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/6/2023, 9:31 AM
@HOTSHOT - 99% of superheroes work in PG-13

Fans just got a gore kink
Fogs
Fogs - 9/6/2023, 9:38 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Agreed.

Was watching Begins he other day and it's so funny how the serious tone is contradicted on how non-graphic the movie is.
Every gun firing has a camera change so it won't show the person being hurt.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/6/2023, 10:14 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I love Daredevil's comics and the majority of them are rated T for Teen. Clearly it's not essential. Plus, some of my favorite DD stories are the kinds that don't really warrant graphic content such as Waid's run.

We've gotten the gritty Miller adaptation. Now I'm up for something new.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/6/2023, 11:40 AM
@HOTSHOT - I think PG-13 Punisher can work as a guest star/minor antagonist in some other character's story.
Lem1
Lem1 - 9/6/2023, 12:46 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Well said, but Not me, star. They can keep their blood n guts. That crap was over the top in the Netflix series, which otherwise liked a lot.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/6/2023, 1:37 PM
@FinnishDude - Agreed. Like maybe in Spider-Man.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 9/6/2023, 9:31 AM
A PG13 punisher movie...can it be done? Yes. Would it be good? IDK. Can it be great? Maybe?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/6/2023, 9:31 AM
As long as its good. I imagine it working ideally in a sort of hard PG-13 vibe akin to an Andor. But its gotta be good at the very least, regardless of rating.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/6/2023, 11:09 AM
@GhostDog - Absolutely.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/6/2023, 9:32 AM
I'm going to agree with this guy. Those 3, especially Brenthal would Not have agreed to join this if they were going to water down the punisher that much... however, with that said, money talks. I do truly hope this is great as it's probably the only thing i'm really looking forward to from the MCU anytime in the next year or 2
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/6/2023, 9:34 AM
Yeah I don’t think people realize how much you get away with in PG-13

R just lets you be ass naked for a while and extra gory

You can tell an equally dark story (even though daredevil isn’t always doom and gloom ugh I’m blind )
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/6/2023, 9:47 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - but they don't tell dark stories under pg-13, unless if they're terrible scary movies. They have to market to the kiddies if it's pg-13. Duhhh lol
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 9/6/2023, 9:42 AM
But can the show actually still be great if it doesn't depict brutal, gory decapitations or blood-soaked hallway fights with knives being stabbed into people's eyes? 🥺
Itwasme
Itwasme - 9/6/2023, 11:59 AM
@EskimoJ - to be fair, you can still do a lot of that stuff with PG-13 ratings anyway.
RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 10:01 AM
The violence with some gore wasn’t what made the three seasons of Daredevil great TV Also, some of the scenes could have been suggested instead of literally shown such as the drill going into Frank’s foot. We never saw exactly what the Joker did with the knife that he put in Gambino’s mouth, but we all knew something violent happened there.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/6/2023, 11:04 AM
@RolandD - This is true.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/6/2023, 11:03 AM
Solid cast (that's a given).

NO ZANY - CAMP - OR STUPID HUMOUR.

Stay true to the characters.

Realistic, close-contact, physical contact in throw-downs. This can be achieved without close-ups of gore etc

NO ZANY - CAMP - OR STUPID HUMOUR.

Strong plotting (with NO padding).

I'm IN.






RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 11:17 AM
@BillyBatson1000 - And I in turn, totally agree with your comment. Even though Netflix, Daredevil did have dark and gritty stories, there is still plenty of humor. I saw it as more character driven humor and camp humor or dumb jokes. For instance, there was a line about Matt, always finding both dangerous and beautiful women, despite not being able to “see”. That in the comments about being the “best damn avocados in NYC were funny without ruining the tone odd the series.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/6/2023, 11:22 AM
@RolandD - That's it. Humour that evolves from immediate events never seems out of place. It's still possible to look at the gravest situation and laugh at it - 'Gallows Humour'.
RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 11:48 AM
@BillyBatson1000 - Matt running the pool table with one shot after Karen stepped away was both cool and funny but it added to the narrative about his abilities and distracted for the story not at all. I think you and I need to go out for a drink tonight, see if we can find Waddles and TheDoctor1225 while we’re at it.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 9/6/2023, 1:22 PM
@RolandD - I like the way you think. First round's on me.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 9/6/2023, 11:38 AM
Idk. The Ben Affleck Daredevil was PG-13 in theaters and we all saw how that turned out. 🤦‍♂️
RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 11:49 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek -
RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 11:52 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek -
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 9/6/2023, 12:24 PM
@RolandD - I just rewatched it the other day and while some of the DD stuff was ok the Matt Murdock stuff was bad specially the playground fight scene with the kids cheering them on, that was cheesy and reminded me of how Disney+ Marvel shows are.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/6/2023, 1:08 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - that’s just shit direction not the rating
RolandD
RolandD - 9/6/2023, 3:08 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - I’ve never seen it although I have been told more than on time to hold out for the director’s cut if and when I do. I love the Netflix show though. I see it as damn good television and not just a good superhero show.
batman001
batman001 - 9/6/2023, 1:54 PM
Wait what this show was cancelled in 2028 lol in all seriousness I do think that it will be hard for these characters to be translated into a PG-13 world I mean we all saw the 2003 Daredevil movie and that had a very similar rating but it's not impossible to do provided that they have the right creative team behind them to help to pull it all off in my freaking opinions anyways / at least.
Spike101
Spike101 - 9/6/2023, 4:40 PM
I think these stories can be PG-13 even the Punisher but I can’t help thinking that Disney will mess this up and make them all lovely people which they are not and stuff the show with funny gags like they have with their more recent movies.
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