DC Studios Boss James Gunn Reveals Whether The DCU Has One Big Bad: "We're World-Building Not Story-Building"

DC Studios Boss James Gunn Reveals Whether The DCU Has One Big Bad: "We're World-Building Not Story-Building"

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has responded to theories about the DCU's "big bad," confirming that these movies and TV shows aren't necessarily building to a huge crossover event featuring a sole villain...

By JoshWilding - Dec 06, 2024 11:12 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios

What Marvel Studios has achieved with the MCU is nothing short of incredible. Rival studios have tried and failed to replicate that success (look at Universal's ill-fated Dark Universe) and moviegoers now expect every franchise to link up and build to...something

From day one, there's been speculation about who DC Studios will choose as the DCU's big bad. Darkseid is likely off the table after Zack Snyder's Justice League, but James Gunn must surely have plans for the team assembling for a battle with a seemingly unstoppable threat, right? 

Much has been said about that possibly being The Centre, a monstrous being first introduced in Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier.

However, the DC Studios boss has now confirmed that the DCU isn't setting out to tell one big story that leads to a final boss-type villain in a future crossover or event movie. 

"These are interconnected stories but people are always going to be [saying], 'Who's the big bad?' Are there big bads for connected films? Yes. But is this all about, 'Hey, I'm telling this one story about this big bad'? No," Gunn told Josh Horowitz. "This is about a connected universe. We're world-building. We're not story-building."

"We're not writing one story that has a beginning, middle, and end," the filmmaker continued. "We're creating a universe where people in which can go and join in and experience it. It is much more like Star Wars."

Some fans might be disappointed by these comments but is it really such a bad thing for the DCU to differentiate itself from the MCU in this way?

The Justice League is bound to assemble somewhere down the line and the villain they face doesn't necessarily need to have made their presence felt in countless other movies and TV shows beforehand. As for The Circle, we still expect that baddie to factor into Lanterns somehow. 

That worked with Thanos but not Kang the Conqueror; Avengers: Age of Ultron also did just fine introducing Ultron without him having been teased for two or three years beforehand (it's also no secret that Gunn wasn't the biggest fan of having to write Thanos into 2014's Guardians of the Galaxy). 

"The goal from the beginning was to give the honor that the great characters deserved; the Wonder Womans, Batmans, and Supermans," Gunn says of his DCU plans elsewhere in the interview. "But then also to prop up these lesser-known characters like Peacemaker, Booster Gold, and The Huntress."

You can watch the full interview with the filmmaker below. 

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PC04
PC04 - 12/6/2024, 11:36 AM
Anyone else really want to see a live action Metallo? I really liked him from the Animated Superman series. Why have we never gotten live action Metallo?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 12/6/2024, 11:39 AM
@PC04 - They're too busy rebooting Batman.
Forthas
Forthas - 12/6/2024, 11:45 AM
So...if there is no "big bad" why would there be a need for anything like the Justice League to be formed? Even if one considers a group of villians like the Legion of Doom...they are collectively...a big bad!
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 12/6/2024, 11:51 AM
@Forthas - "But is this all about, 'Hey, I'm telling this 𝙊̲𝙉̲𝙀̲ story about this big bad'? No"
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 12/6/2024, 11:51 AM
@Forthas - I took what he is saying to mean that there can be “big bads” that require team ups, but it doesn’t mean that every movie is building towards the one story involving the big bad.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 12/6/2024, 11:52 AM
@Forthas - he says in the interview there will be “big bads” for certain characters teaming up and stuff like the Justice League but what he’s saying is it isn’t all building up to the whole universe teaming up to fight one guy, ala Thanos, like it’s multiple storylines going on at once instead of one thing it’s heading toward
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 12/6/2024, 11:50 AM
I love this approach. The fall off after Endgame is a perfect example of how the story building approach Marvel took is not sustainable. Have a connected world and the ability for crossovers and team ups, but don’t force every movie or show to build toward something.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 12/6/2024, 4:24 PM
@Shivermetimbers - I guess they can treat it like BTAS and Superman TAS. Both were in the same universe with a few crossovers but didn't necessarily jump straight to the justice league after one or two seasons.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/6/2024, 8:47 PM
@Arthorious - the DCU sounds like just that. Or a live action DCAU. Which is dope.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 12/6/2024, 11:50 AM

Unless they get rid of MooseSh!tty, the next agenda item will be fixing Batman after Brave & Bold is ruined.

Pampero
Pampero - 12/6/2024, 11:52 AM
The great villain of the DCU is none other than James Gunn himself.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 12/6/2024, 12:59 PM
@Pampero - I thought biggest villain of the DCU was the DCEU fans.
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