A Marvel fighting game.

A Marvel fighting game.

My ideas for a Marvel fighting game.

Editorial Opinion
By EdgyOutsider - Jan 31, 2013 07:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

The fighting genre is my favorite genre of video games. That being said, Lego Marvel Superheroes proves that just because it's a Warner Bros. company doesn't mean that they can't do a Marvel video game. Yes, Marvel has had fighting games in the past. I can only think of two though. Rise of the Imperfects (one of my favorite Marvel video games ever) and all those crappy Marvel vs Capcom games. Yep, I said it. Marvel vs Capcom are crap fighting games. I want something fun and engaging. Not something cartoony and weak. Here are my ideas for a Marvel fighting game.

1: NetherRealm Studios



Let's face it. Only one company makes an engaging, fun, over the top (not cartoony) fighting game with a coherent story. That company, is NetherRealm studios. Yes, the Mortal Kombat guys whose upcoming project is a DC fighting game known as, Injustice Gods Among Us. I know their style is little bit old for some people but, you guys wanted to go back to the arcade style. You got it. If you ask me, getting a Marvel fighting game with NetherRealm Studios developing it would be amazing. Not only are their fighting games not to deminsional in offerings but also they make the deepest and the best storylines for the fighting genre. Marvel has (in my opinion) the best comicbook characters. There is huge potential.

Popular and lesser known characters



Marvels games, with the expection of the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games (the first one is my favorite superhero game), they really haven't put out video games that really exposes their rich universe and characters. Sure, the comic fans know all these characters but, people love NetherRealm Studios. People love Mortal Kombat. You give NetherRealm Studios an opportunity to create a superhero fighting game for Marvel or DC, that's a for sure buy for a lot of people. Injustice seems to be introducing some of the lesser known characters (kind of) as well as bringing in the obvious heavy hitters. They could do the same for, Marvel. Heavy hitters being characters like: Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, The Avengers while they could introduce lesser known characters (to the casual player) like: Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Deadpool.

No typical big bad villain



Dr Doom has become "The Joker" of the Marvel video games. He's the guy they use the most for the villain because of the threat level he poses. Why not someone knew? Thanos or Ultron. Something new. Ultron if you ask me, sounds like the more ideal villain for a Marvel fighting game. Take out someone like the Hulk so they can demonstrate how powerful the bad guy really is. Have Ultron break Hulks neck or something just flat out brutal but, also have other villains but not have as large of roles. The one that comes straight to mind is, Magneto. You don't really see him much as a villain or flat out not at all in a Marvel game. This would be a cool opportunity to make Magneto look like a total badass (he already is anyways but that's besides the point) and have Mystique at his side and play a part in the story. I don't have a specific story in mind but, I think these things into a story for a Marvel fighting game would be amazing.

Something ballsy (kind of)



I'm using the term ballsy in the sense of, not just kill an important character. But, do something overall that really wouldn't be expected that makes the characters feel like they are in deep trouble. Killing Iron Man, Captain America or Spider-Man would feel a little bit easy to figure out. I'm talking someone that's an important character to the story that you wouldn't really expect them to kill off. My thinking would be having The Punisher (as a playable character) be sort of like the Batman of the Marvel Universe in the sense of he can be the detective type character but in the end, gets the chopping block. As far as something ballsy goes, I was thinking having a cut scene at the beginning where you have this all out war going on in New York City between Hulk and Ultron. Just those two beating the holy hell out of each other, almost completely destroying New York but have Ultron win in the end. I know, it really doesn't sound all that ballsy. But, I think of it as ballsy in the sense of scale.

DareDevil play a part as a useful character



One of the coolest, darkest and probably depressing heroes in the Marvel Universe. DareDevil could be not only a cool character to play as but also be a cool character in the benefit of the story. Seriously, put his Radar Sense to use or something. He would be like the alarm of the heroes or something if a threat is close to them, I know you're probably saying "But, Spider-Man has his Spider Sense so that would be pointless" not really. It's giving DareDevil something to do and not be the typical Marvel video game but don't give him that one specific role. Have him be the most human of the heroes in the sense that he is a very serious character who looks at their situation in the most realistic way. He could be one of the more "realistic" characters of the game.

That's all I have. What do you think? Comment below.
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EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 8:33 AM
@Levi: Marvel vs Capcom sucks ass. I want a good Marvel fighting game. I feel the only one we have had was, Rise of the Imperfects.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 8:53 AM
Levi

I think Marvel makes good games every now and then. Not as often as they use to. If you ask me, the last brilliant game they came out with is the first, Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Which remains as my favorite superhero game.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 1/31/2013, 9:12 AM
I still want MUA 3.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 9:21 AM
@thefirstavenger97: I'm still waiting on MUA 2. What we got was just a video game adaptation of the civil war and the secret war. I want the sequel that the cliff hanger at the end of the first one promised us.
GhostZillaRider
GhostZillaRider - 1/31/2013, 9:43 AM
@thefirstavenger97- I came up with an idea for that. I called it Marvel Ultimate Alliance: Unsung Heroes. It utilizes mostly second and third tier characters, ones who have hardly been seen in video games, if at all. The point was to take all of the big name heroes out of the picture, and fill that void with heroes that don't get much attention, or that are dead. Hank Pym is the "team leader", being the one who manages to pull all of these heroes together (and back from the dead) with the help of the time gem. The heroes go on a quest to gather the rest of the gems, and Pym is your end boss, because the power of the gems is too much for him, and he goes insane.
Here's the roster I put together:

Banshee
Blink
Feral
Jack of Hearts
Nomad
Night Thrasher
Scarlet Spider
Thunderstrike
Vengeance
Quasar
Adam Warlock- (Unlockable)
Captain Marvel- (Mar-Vell)
Thunderbird
Firestar
Justice
Living Lightning
Photon
Darkhawk
Cloak
Dagger
Wonder Man
Nova
Polaris
Havok
Sunspot
Shatterstar
Captain Britain
Morbius
U.S. Agent
Vision
Deathlok
Husk
She-Hulk
Sasquatch
GhostZillaRider
GhostZillaRider - 1/31/2013, 9:53 AM
I also had another idea for a MUA game, but that one focused on villains. Entitled "The Vault", the story establishes that Norman Osborn, Mesmero and Mr. Sinister concoct a grand scheme, and are using other super villains to accomplish their goals. They break a whole bunch of villains out of the Vault, and send them on missions. Playable characters would potentially include:

Electro, Sandman, Hydro Man, Rhino, Beetle, Venom, Carnage (unlockable), Boomerang, Scorpion, Shriek, Demogoblin, Pyro, Mandarin (Unlockable), Blizzard, Blacklash/Whiplash, Taskmaster, Radioactive Man, Baron Strucker, Tigershark, Puma, Absorbing Man, Abomination, Moonstone, Klaw, Copycat, Crossbones, Dreadknight, Jack O'Lantern, Black Queen, Black Tom, Juggernaut, Sabretooth, Vulcan, Deadpool, Speed Demon, Shocker, Avalanche, Whirlwind, Baron Mordo, the Living Laser, and vigilante appearances by Punisher and Cardiac.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 10:15 AM
@Levi: I suggested NetherRealm Studios cause they are the only company that seems to have enough brain cells to make not just a fighting game but a full, quality game that gives players more to do than just multiplayer, a ladder mode, story and online. They actually make quality games.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 10:33 AM
@SotoJuiceMan: Yea, I hate Marvel vs. Capcom and I feel the only good Marvel fighting game we have had is Rise of the Imperfects.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 1/31/2013, 11:48 AM
@Ghostzilla I'd buy it! ;-)
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 12:06 PM
@TheHawkWithin: When I wrote it, I really couldn't think of something truly ballsy :/ I just put the only thing I could think of.
GoILL
GoILL - 1/31/2013, 12:21 PM
Marvel Vs Capcom 3 was shitty, loved every Capcom Marvel fighting game until that one though.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 1/31/2013, 12:37 PM
For got, great article Liz1!
jessepostal
jessepostal - 1/31/2013, 12:59 PM
Marvels had a some gems in gaming

marvel heroes
marvel vs capcom 1 and 2
xmen cotha
xmen arcade
spidey arcade
captain america and the avengers arcade
wolverine
the punisher ps2
the punisher arcade
captain america super soldier
xmen 2 clone wars
ultimate alliance 1 and 2
about 5 or 6 good spidey games from sega till ps3
2 great hulk games
avengers in galactic storm arcade
xmen vs street fighter
war of the gems
mutant academy 1 and 2
blade
xmen legends
rise of the imperfects
marvel pinball

and im sure there is a few more that were a good time in some way.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 1:01 PM
@SotoJuiceMan: Rise of the Imperfects has a really good story mode and I just thought it was a pretty good fighter. My problem with games like Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom is that they are way too cartoony. Street Fighter is too cartoony and over the top. Both games have problems that the games NetherRealm Studios doesn't have. They are over the top but not in a ridiculous way, they have better controls and they aren't thin games. Tekken, Street Fighter, ect. They have very little to nothing to offer consumers. That's why I'm looking forward to Injustice and why I think they'd be the best Studio to make a straight up Marvel fighting game that is really good, not cartoony and will 9x out of 10 have plenty to offer.
jessepostal
jessepostal - 1/31/2013, 1:21 PM
@lizard, so you like the darker toned games, The punisher on ps2, xbox, pc is right up your ally, wolverines fun but pretty repetitive. Captain america super soldier was a lot of fun,and might be to your liking as well
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 1:30 PM
@jessepostal: I try to like all kinds of games but yea, I tend to be attracted to the more serious games. I have played Wolverine and Captain Anerica: Super Soldier. I really loved them both.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 3:09 PM
It wasn't only the story I liked. I never experienced any bugs or anything you experienced while playing the game. If you ask me, obviously I'm going to say that EA makes better fighting games than Capcom. Capcom doesn't make bad games, they make bad fighting games. I have faith in NetherRealm and I won't lie, it's partly cause Mortal Kombat is my favorite game franchise and game in general. I loved the last one. I was disappointed when I heard their next project was a DC game (I don't really care much for DC at all) but, after seeing everything so far. I'm super pumped for it.
tonytony
tonytony - 1/31/2013, 3:44 PM
Nothing marvel has ever made goes anywhere near the batman arkham asylum games.
SageMode
SageMode - 1/31/2013, 4:00 PM
For a Marvel fighting game, I'd use CAPCOM's Street Fighter IV graphics engine but with the Marvel Vs Capcom gameplay style or some more on the lines of RISE OF THE IMPERFECTS or POWER STONE.

LIZARD

So you think MARVEL VS CAPCOM sucks but you really loved CAPTAIN AMERICA: SUPER SOLDIER? Wow......
and how is STREET FIGHTER over the top?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/31/2013, 4:02 PM
Marvel vs Capcom 3 sucks.

Marvel vs Capcom 2 is one of the greatest fighting fames ever created, and it has the highest, longlasting fanbase of any other fighter. Dont believe me? Download it on Xbox Live or PSN and play a match online. To this day you will have no problem finding someone to play with.

Marvel vs Capcom 3 screwed up big time by making it a spam-fest, and also by giving every character infinite combos where all you have to do is hit an opponent with a normal light attack to set it up. Then once they enter the combo, the other player literally cant do anything until they die. Its a completely flawed and broken fight system.

Having given all that praise ti MvC2 however, i have to agree with Lizard. I would love to see a different take on a Marvel fighting game.

And I cant friggin' wait for Injustice. That game is going to be tits!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/31/2013, 4:07 PM
@ tonytony

In all fairness, very few video games AT ALL come close to Arkham Asylum.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/31/2013, 4:20 PM
i wouldn't mind playing a marvel game that used the tekken 6 game engine.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/31/2013, 6:01 PM
Rise of the Imperfects was a good concept, and i liked it at first. But once you tried all the characters it was very easy to see that no matter what character you picked, they all played exactly the same. There was no variety at all.

I will say this, it had one of the best opening cut scenes of any game. I loved that news report that showed cap flip off the wall and the. Get caught in an explosion. And then Hulk get nailed by a missile. And Punisher's gun sitting there with his torn shirt hanging on it. Very cool cut scene.
relentless1
relentless1 - 1/31/2013, 7:28 PM
does anybody here remember x men next dimension for the ps2?? i thought that was a great fighter game, every character had a unique ability and the game had good handiling although i think the story wasnt very good and it didnt really come out to good reviews
SageMode
SageMode - 1/31/2013, 7:42 PM
SOTOJUICEMAN
Capcom sucks at anything else but fighting games.


So you think that some of their action/adventure series like Mega Man, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, and Final Fight suck?
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 9:02 PM
@SageMode: Street Fighter is cartoony over the top. The kind of ridiculousness you would see in a an anime, can't say I expected much cause Street Fighter is an anime video game. Same with Tekken. Mortal Kombat (which I've been working on a fan-made film script for) is over the top in blood and gore. Outside of that, it's not over the top in the actual violence itself like Street Fighter and Tekken.

@SotoJuiceMan: I care less what the critics think. Plus, I was like nine or ten when it came out. Of course I'm going to think it was great. Playing it now, I still really enjoy it for what it is. While it's not a tradtional fighter, I found it to be much more enjoyable than Street Fighter, DOA, Tekken, and pretty much most fighting games in general. If you prefer Capcom and fighters like Street Fighter and Namcos Tekken, then I respect your opinion. I am of the opinion that they don't make good fighting games, the way that NetherRealm Studios does. As I said before, one of the many reasons I enjoy Mortal Kombat more is cause it has a story mode and isn't the traditional thin fighting game. It has depth and offers the consumers their moneys worth. EA games' Marvel Nemesis isn't a bad game by any means. I thought the story is pretty good, the controls are easy to understand and use and you get to tear up places during your fights like: Avengers Mansion, The Daily Bugle, Brooklyn Bridge, ect.

@Levi: If it wasn't for Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions, Ultimate Spider-Man would be my favorite Spider-Man game.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 10:39 PM
@Soto: Not to be a dick but, if you played Mortal Kombat. You would have known that Kano only had the laser eye for a couple games. The rest, it was just a plate with a red eye as a replacement for the eye he doesn't have anymore. Mortal Kombat is more complex than what you make it out to be. It's not amazingly complex but, it's a lot better than what you make it to be. Sure, I won't lie. It does have its moments of silliness but, as you said earlier. Mortal Kombat is made for a more mature audience while Street Fighter is aimed for young kids who don't play a story mode and all that. If you ask me, Mortal Kombat started to get a bad rep when Mortal Kombat: Annihilation came out. Do some research, you will see that Mortal Kombat (while there are certain things that are silly) isn't as silly as Street Fighter. Especially the latest Mortal Kombat game. It is a complete game and outdoes its competition in every way. Believe me when I say, I wanted to like Street Fighter and Tekken. But, there was nothing there for me. It was over the top violence for the sake of having violence. It has a cartoony feel and look to it and all it is, is a game where you and a friend or you and the A.I just beat the hell out of each other. No real purpose. Same with Tekken.

To clarify the story of Mortal Kombat for you: It started when The Elder Gods had to stop "the one being" from draining their lives (cause that's how he survives) so they created a Kamidogu to destory it. The Kamidogu split into different pieces that eventually made up the realms (Earthrealm, Outworld, NetherRealm, Edenia, Realm of Order a.k.a Seido and the Chaosrealm). The Elder Gods watched over the realms until Shinnok decided to try and rule Earthrealm (which was then and still is protected by Raiden). A big war started that ended with Shinnok being cast down into the NetherRealm for an eternity. The Elder Gods created the Mortal Kombat tournament to ensure peace among the realms. In order to absorb a realm, the challenging realm must win ten consecutive Mortal Kombat tournaments. After Onaga was poisoned by Shao Kahn after an attempt for enternal life, Shao Kahn took the reigns and continued to take over the realms. Once Shao Kahn took Edenia for himself and killed King Jerrod, Sindel convinces Shao Kahn of baby Kitanas worth then committed suicide. Shao Kahn raised Kitana as his own from there on out.

From there, it's pretty much obvious from the original Mortal Kombat trilogy and beyond. Obviously, other side plots include: Quan Chi/Scorpion/Sub-Zero rivalry, Sonya/Kano rivalry and the Lin Kuei Cyber Inititave. While yes, some parts are a bit silly like the whole bit with the Elder Gods and "the one being" (which, no one knows specifically who that being is), it's mostly an engaging, epic storyline. Street Fighter, not so much. As I meant to say before If I haven't already, Street Fighter is over the top in its cartoony violence. It can't be in the story department if it doesn't have a story. Just saying. I respect your opinions in this debate though.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 1/31/2013, 11:51 PM
I apologize then for looking at it the wrong way lol I never found the dialouge to be cheesy. For me, Street Fighter is a bit too much in the cartoony sense, again for me anyways. I know the story doesn't make the game. I just always felt that Mortal Kombat was more engaging, you being an Mortal Kombat fan yourself (I am assuming by what you), you at least see where I am coming from as much as I am finally seeing where you are coming from. I still feel, even if the chances are slim to none of it actually happening, that NetherRealm Studios making a straight up Marvel fighting game is the best way to go for a Marvel fighting game because they (in my opinion) make richer and more complete games, especially for a fighting game. Which I feel, the fighting genre is over looked by many these days. I just feel that Capcoms fighting games like Street Fighter are a bit thin. Not just in story but a game as a whole.
Spideyguy94
Spideyguy94 - 2/1/2013, 4:26 AM
@LEVITIKUZ Ultimate spider-man and spider-man 2 are on par IMO. I love those 2 games.
jessepostal
jessepostal - 2/1/2013, 5:35 AM
@lizard and soto, I've played every game from both series, since both started in the arcades. The first street fighter wasn't very good, but for the time it was ok, mk 1 started a whole new thing and it ran with it, blood, life like violence, and fatalitys made every kid want to play it, and you would wait in line at arcades for a long time just to play one round. Mk was fresh and it started something huge. Street fighter 2 was huge in a different way, it added a new element with its off the wall fun characters and it's controls, for the die hard fighting game player, street fighter is the one to beat. Mk2 polished and made the mk series even better as well and made it a household name, mk 3 did good but after that it started flaming out, same with street fighter, they kept releasing titles but they lost the edge, to the masses anyway, I've liked them all personally. In which is better?? I'm more of an mk fan, it's easier and I like the violence. If you look at it as which one is the better fighter, street fighter takes it by a long run, which sucks but people love it's controlls, and game play technics, there is always a street fighter tourney somewhere.
Jamesx51
Jamesx51 - 2/1/2013, 7:51 AM
The entire marvel vs capcom games are ace! X-Men vs. Streetfighter being my fave. DC tried to jump onboard with the very poor mortal Kombat vs DC!

Marvels had plenty of fighting games... The kinect title, marvel super heroes, rise ofthe imperfects, X-Men COTA... Flippin loads
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