How much would it take?

How much would it take?

This here is just a personal rant. I know that pretty much everyone is thinking the same but hey...

Editorial Opinion
By Kaedus - May 03, 2010 07:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

What I desperately wish for right now is for Marvel to reclaim what is theirs. Seeing the likes of Fox and Sony wreck some of my favourite Marvel characters (I'm looking at you Doctor Doom) is just disheartening. How much would it cost for Marvel to buy back at least one of it's franchises? Spiderman, Xmen, Fantastic 4... God damn.

The fact that 2 of these 3 (and pretty much Xmen aswell) are getting rebooted just goes to show that they are in need of help, and need to be handled by their creators.

My main beef with this isn't necessarily the stories (although I could have a couple of things to say about them) but the characters...

Doctor Doom: What the [frick] did they do to you?! You're the ruler of Latveria! Your name is Doctor DOOM! You're the baddest mother[frick]er in the MU. Why don't they show this?! Also I want Marvel to have the rights because I also want him to be the main villain in Avengers 3 lol.



Gambit: Firstly, why the hell wasn't he included in an Xmen movie?! I waited ages to see him and they didn't write him in! WTF! When they finally wrote him a part in Wolverine I finally got excited but I must say that I was disappointed. I thought that the character was good, but only if he was given a different name. He just wasn't Gambit. I went in expecting the Gambit from the 90s cartoon. I mean, this new guy didn't even have an accent.



Spiderman: I don't think Spiderman was as much a travesty as Doctor Doom but I didn't like him. He was too different from the comics, not witty enough.

Fantastic 4: For me they just didn't seem right. The Thing looked stupid, Mr Fantastic didn't seem like the comic book Reed Richards i always read about and Jessica Alba as Sue Storm...no. Chris Evans as Johnny Storm was the only plus for me. To be honest I'd rather he stayed in the role and we have Chris Pine for Cap...sigh, I can dream.

There are others but I just wished to highlight my main issues (god dammit Doctor Doom what the hell!!!).

I must say, I'm dead excited that a lot of my favourite characters are, or are being rumoured to be coming to the big screen... Captain America, Thor, Iron Fist, Doctor Strange, Hawkeye, and Winter Soldier. Thankyou Marvel, but for the love of god buy back what's yours.

Also finally, cosmic Marvel. I want some of that. How epic would that be. Here's to hoping that the Silver Surfer spin off movie will be awesome and have characters like Nova and Thanos in sequels...oh wait, don't Fox have the Silver Surfer rights.



Sigh

Well, rant over. Now to focus on the positives of the Marvel comic book movies. And there are so many of them.
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Kaedus
Kaedus - 5/3/2010, 8:07 PM
Yes I know that it is hardly feasable for them to get Spidey and the Xmen back. It's just a dream.

And goddammit I hope you're not trolling. Sigh, disappointment.
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 5/3/2010, 9:19 PM
i believe that Marvel will eventually reclaim all of their characters' rights. but unfortunatley that will probably be in twenty to thirty years to do so.
by then we will see at least three different actors pass by for all of Marvel's films.
Kaedus
Kaedus - 5/4/2010, 1:00 AM
@ Anil Rickly Yeah i'd love to see a take on the Annihilation: Nova story. I've loved him even more since he "absorbs" the Worldmind and Nova Force.

You're fan casts are awesome. Full of excellent detail. Much better tnan the shit that's come out of Sony ;P hehe lol.

Paulley
Paulley - 5/4/2010, 3:26 AM
lol i was planning on writing a very similar article... i still might on my day off.. cus i agree with you that marvel needs these characters back to do them justice.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2010, 6:49 AM
I'm fed up telling everyone its MARVEL's own fault they [frick]ed up all the rights!!!

Sigh...
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2010, 7:09 AM
And this AIN'T FAN-FIC!

EDITORIALS dude LOL!
Bomblu
Bomblu - 5/4/2010, 7:14 AM
Even though i'd like to see those franchises getting some justice, I'd rather see marvel work hard on exploiting the full potential on the unreleased (and three released - iron man, iron man 2, hulk) movies.

It was already hard enough to make people go watch another Hulk movie and with it's previous stigma i dont think it did as well as it should have done. Imagine marvel trying to make Fantastic 4 decent again after two very average movies.

I think characters like Spidey and Fantastic 4 are slightly more targeted to a young audience (10+) who love them for their 'humorous moments' and power-ranger styled action. Marvel seem to be focusing on a story, rather than spending a budget on explosions and cgi, and I'd rather see dare devil doomed in the eternal fires of Fox then not see an iron man 12 :P
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/4/2010, 9:20 AM
DR DOOM in AVENGERS 3 by the way would be killer!
Kaedus
Kaedus - 5/4/2010, 10:18 AM
@ MikeSanderson09 I know lol, it's just god damn Sony!!! Argh. Sigh ;P

@ Leee777 Yeah I always wanted a main trilogy of Avengers films. First with Loki and Hulk as the villains, second with Ultron, and third with Dr Doom. After that a Kang film would be pretty cool but it could be pretty hard.


I'm desperate to see Winter Soldier, Silver Surfer (hopefully also including Nova), Iron Fist, and Doctor Strange movies.
As far as I know these are mostly all being planned so things are looking awesome for the future, aside from the Avengers and their character movies.
Kaedus
Kaedus - 5/4/2010, 11:34 AM
@ MovieTheaterLad

I said 2 of the 3, both Spiderman and FF are being rebooted. I said "pretty much Xmen aswell" because of Xmen: First Class. I know it isn't a reboot but in my opinion they just seem stuck after Last Stand so they're deciding to go to the beginnings so they can tell new stories.

Fair enough with that. In the first move he's starting out. Oh look there's a sequel. Sure he steals the Surfer's board but he just wasn't like Dr Doom at all. His costume looked stupid and even then he was hardly in it. Also, there was no fury from him. No wrathful destruction. Not like the Doom I love anyway.

Like I said, this was an opinion, like all of this really. I said I liked the character, he is a good character, but to me he just isn't Gambit. That's what I get when I watched it.

I read the comics, then I watch Spiderman and to me he's just not right. He just seemed way too different for me and I dislike what Sony did to his character. My opinion, shared by many.

Well obviously he looks stupid in the comics. But when you read the comics you get used to that appearance, it doesn't phase you. I watched the Fantastic Four and I just disliked the way he looked. It was probably the fact that it was a suit. If he'd been done using CGI it would probably have looked much better.

Yeah he ignored Sue but that's one factor. In the comics he seems a lot more confident and strong. I just didn't thing Ioan Gruffudd gave a strong enough performance.

This is a rant. Me just writing down my frustrations with these movies. They're my opinions, things which annoy me.
superdog
superdog - 5/4/2010, 12:21 PM
what would it cost to get the rights back? well seeing as how spiderman and the x-men films grossed over a billiion dollars, id say more than a billion each.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 5/4/2010, 2:31 PM
I didn't mind ff4 or X Men yes Doctor Doom was kind of crap though.
1chris2
1chris2 - 5/5/2010, 10:30 AM
i feel your pain my friend i wish marvel/disney would get the rights back to at least x-men,and spiderman so we can see the real characters ,and stories done right. and a stop put to this cheese fest of stupid comedy,and nonstop action with a watered down story,and the characters changed drasticly wtf? marvel save us.
KeithM
KeithM - 5/7/2010, 1:29 AM
@MovieTheaterLad:

"Because he literally JUST started out being Dr. Doom. You don't just BECOME the ruler of Latveria so easily."

What does that have to do with McMahon's portrayal?

He didn't seem like someone who would EVER be capable of portraying Doom with the gravitas and menace he needs. Even if he still had an arc to complete, he didn't remotely seem like a worthy "young" Doom (and with McMahon being decidedly not "young"...)

Nothing against the actor per se, but when there are so many other actors who could have portrayed Doom's dark, seething, intelligent MENACE - even the potential of such - you have to wonder why him?

Same with Gruffydd - really good actor, but he's just an odd choice for Reed.

Alba - lovely girl. Just one look at her says "Sue Storm" doesn't it. Doesn't it? No, it doesn't.

Evans was perfect. Chiklis was pretty great too - but that SUIT did look stupid (note THE SUIT - not the Thing himself - THE SUIT - comprende?)

I'm sure Tim Story had his heart in the right place and tried his best, but there's no getting away from the fact that the movies fell well short of realising the FF on screen the way they could/should have. Some of the scenes are great as vignettes (e.g. Torch chasing the Surfer), but as a whole they just don't quite cut it.

Gambit

I hated the 90s version too, so I'm with you on that, but this was just lame anyway.

The fight he has with Wolverine. WTF was that all about? Wolverine's fighting Sabretooth and is about to kill him when Gambit attacks Wolverine (why not attack Sabretooth?). When Toothy gets away, Gambit asks "whut? You were gonna kill him?" WTF'ingF?!! What did you think he was going to do with them big [frick]ing claws at Sabretooth's throat you [frick]ing moron? Awful, just awful.

They put Gambit in for the same reason they put Venom in Spider-Man 3. Because they don't have a clue about any of this and market researched the "most popular characters" to try and get your money. Simple as. Don't have to make sense - just needs "featuring Gambit" on the posters.

Spider-Man

How do you know it would be annoying? How do you know it would make the action less exciting? If done badly, you're probably right - it would do both - but should we not even try because comedy and action is hard?

Matthew Vaughn seems to have got the mix right in Kick-Ass. They should make Peter/Spidey funny AND exciting - if that's too hard, just don't make it until you can find someone who can do it.

Is it wrong to want greatness? Is it better to accept mediocrity, because "it could have been worse"? Nah - I don't buy that. We're over the simple excitement of just seeing our heroes on screen, and quality be damned. Now the bar has been raised and we expect them to deliver.
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