The Dark Knight Trilogy -- Christopher Nolan's Third Acts

The Dark Knight Trilogy -- Christopher Nolan's Third Acts

(SPOILERS) Christopher Nolan has delivered what is undoubtedly the best ComicBookMovie trilogy of all time and arguably one of the best sagas in movie history. Yet despite his near-excellence in each of his movies, his third acts always seem to attract most of the debate.

Editorial Opinion
By Alejandro260 - Jul 30, 2012 02:07 PM EST
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Source: comicbookmovie.com

The Dark Knight Rises accomplished what has rarely been done in the movie industry: give a definite conclusion to a story's arc told through multiple installments. Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy was a story that began with Bruce Wayne's motivations, continued through his difficult decisions and ended with his rebirth, retirement and passing of the legacy. Yet even though those final 5 minutes in The Dark Knight Rises where some of the finest and most compelling storytelling in recent movie history (and extremely satisfying in terms of these characters), the 3rd act had its missteps and minor disappointments. Personally, I have felt this way with most of Christopher Nolan's movies, even though I end up completely praising his work.

With Batman Begins, Bruce Wayne is encountered in the third act with the repercussions of abandoning the League of Shadows, which with Rhas Al Ghul, travel to Gotham to complete their journey. Rhas crashes Wayne's birthday party, burn his house, set hell to Gotham and then fight with Batman till his inevitable defeat. In complete retrospect, this sound like a great ending and it is, yet it felt like the most disjointed segment of the film. When the narrows are taken hostage and the poison released up to when Batman fights Rhas, the film stumbles, not with the story, but with the elements in the direction and editing, in my opinion. The images of the fire breathing horse, the screams of the people, the inmates released, the train fight, all was great, but the whole scene composition feels unrigid, disjointed, trying to balance havoc, with mythology, themes and some comedy. Ultimately the ending of this movie is incredible (the Joker card), yet up to where Rachel tells Bruce her famous line, it just did not feel as excellent as what preceded (maybe, Katie Holme's horrible acting).

Now in The Dark Knight, which had flawless direction and editing throughout the entire movie, the final act, a glorious in-building fight sequence, with the Joker threatening to blow up two civilian boats, did not feel like the grand master ending to all of the Joker's plans. It felt a bit repetitious and anti-climactic, especially after the great middle, with The Joker's chase/imprisonment/interrogation/Two-face birth scenes. Again, the conclusion if absolutely fantastic, with the Joker dangling upside down midair and reciting some great lines to cement his mark: "Gravity like madness.... all it takes is a little push" is my favorite line of the whole movie. And the one-two emotional punch of Two-Face taking Gordon's family hostage and Batman taking the credit for the crimes is absolutely engrossing. But again, the scenes before, seem uneven.

Finally, in The Dark Knight Rises, I believe the climax presented is the best of the whole trilogy, since it practically is the climax to the WHOLE trilogy. The all out brawl between the people and the terrorists is epic, the feeling of dread and time elapsing rush is felt and the last 10 minutes or so deliver wonders. Yet, the problem here lies in the villain. The villain's role switches from Bane to Talia in a blink of an eye. Bane, a villain I truly felt could be greater than the Joker, in all aspects, did not meet Joker's grandeur, not because of the actor's performance, but because the writers did not finish him off properly. The "origin" was fantastic, but it ended up being Talia's and Bane was quickly finished off with one blow from the pod by Selina. Now, I believe TDKR was fantastic, yet if these errors where to be corrected, it would have TRULY had people saying "This beats TDK".

Just imagine if the origin in the prison where to have been Bane's, with Talia and Rhas adopting Bane after his escape, training with the LOS, falling for Talia, avenging Rha's death, etc., Bane would have had a much stronger and deeper motif for his actions and Talia's poor development would not have been felt that much. And now imagine if instead of being blown by Selina, Bane would have just been hurt and after Talia's death continued to fight Batman until his body gave up (you guys can fill in the details to your liking) giving him a deeper ending and death where HIS soul where broken.

THAT would have made this film truly superior to The Dark Knight, even though I still believe The Dark Knight Rises is greater in terms of direction, character development, emotion and overall focus to Bruce's character.

I think Christopher Nolan is a great and gifted director, who gives us great movies because he takes the time to develop and birth them with care. Yet, he has difficulty in bringing excellent climaxes (at least compared to the rest of the film's parts, which seem flawless). I even thought this in Inception, but I don't wan't to go into that one now.

Even though, he has brought to the table what very few have done before. And little flaws in his movies are flaws many other director's wish they had.

P.S.

I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THESE SPECIFIC SCENES IN TDKR (BANE'S DEATH, TALIA'S REVEAL) IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COMMENT PLEASE DO SO, TO HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION. BUT PLEASE FOCUS ON THESE SCENES SPECIFICALLY.

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Gerrit
Gerrit - 7/30/2012, 4:11 PM
I agree with you that Bane's death was a disappointment. For me it is a major mistake in the movie. He is, in a split second, downgraded from amazing main villain to common henchman and discarded just as fast in order to give room to Talia. Hell, Talia's most important feat in the movie is to undermine the main villain. Now every time I watch TDKR and see Bane, there will be this thought echoing deep down in my head: "What is the point of this great presentation if, in the end, this character is just a thug?". Still, it is my favorite out of the three.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 7/30/2012, 4:28 PM
How is he just a common henchmen or just a thug? I haven't seen anyone make sense f this yet. Yea, he's working with Talia. So what? His relationship with her is taken out of the comics. It's not exactly the same, but it's still there. The two of them were partners, working together. He was obviously at the top of their version of the League of Shadows. The reveal of Talia near the end does nothing to take away what he was doing throughout the rest of the movie.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 7/30/2012, 4:38 PM
Also, I don't think having Bane come back at the end would have made the ending better. The focus at that point was rightfully placed on Batman getting the bomb out of the city and the idea that he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of Gotham. Like in the comics, Batman can not physically beat Bane. He only can when he damages his breathing apparatus or in the comics when he cuts of the venom. This was all handled right. I also disagree with how you feel about Christopher Nolan's climaxes. His movies aren't just cut and dry. They get people talking. He gives us something to think about and doesn't always lay everything out amd make it so obvious. Things are open to interpretation. This is something a lotnf movies and televisions is missing now adays.
Gerrit
Gerrit - 7/30/2012, 6:03 PM
I never meant to say that Bane is literally a common henchman. Both in BB and TDK, the climax features a final confrontation between the heroe and the villain. In TDKR everything is great until the confrontation is cut and the big revelation happens. From the moment Miranda's true identity is revealed the spotlight is on Talia, in a manner of speaking, and Bane is discarded quickly and anti-climatically. That's what happens to common henchmen: they don't get the spotlight and are discarded quickly and anti-climatically. Even though he clearly, obviously isn't a common henchman, Bane is treated as such in his final moments. That's my point and I think it is underwhelming.
I don't think that Bane coming back is a good idea. If instead of 11 minutes, if I remember correctly, they had 20 minutes Batman could have broken free of Banes's grasp and finished him off properly. Maybe quickly breaking Banes's mask beyond repair and let him there in the building, since without his mask Bane is incapacitated, in a dramatic sequence showing his entire face.
relentless1
relentless1 - 7/30/2012, 11:00 PM
i think bane was most definetly reduced to right hand man, if you notice, after the reveal its clear that talia is giving the orders to bane, he does his own thing once she leaves again, thats someone whos disobeying an order and that is the leader/ henchman dynamic to a tee, now if they had of intruduced talia even 10 mins earlier and shown that her and bane were equal partners, maybe given her a fight scene then i think banes momentum would not have been damaged at all, and i have no problem with the way bane died if it hadve happened while he was still the undisputed leader
Huguex
Huguex - 7/31/2012, 6:06 AM
Bane's motivation is love. It's not a bad motivation overall, but it's a little dissapointing actually. He IS reduced to a simple THUG. Pitty.
AVB
AVB - 7/31/2012, 1:01 PM
I liked the movie overall, but did not like the ending at all. Bruce/Selina was not done well to where them having a "happy ending" make any sense nor was in any way satisfying, and the ending was a major disservice to both the Bane and Talia characters - the same idea would have worked if Talia had more development but Nolan gave her nothing but one monologue and then she was dead. WTF? Weak ending to an otherwise good time. Talia is too good a character for what she got, and Tom Hardy was too good in his role for what Bane got.
TheLoveDoc
TheLoveDoc - 7/31/2012, 10:12 PM
@BattlinMurdock
That's a good question.
TheLoveDoc
TheLoveDoc - 7/31/2012, 10:13 PM
The last battle scene in TOTAL, should have been more dramatic.
DJRock93
DJRock93 - 8/1/2012, 8:49 AM
I honestly hated how it ended. 5 minutes after Talia was introduced, she was killed, and Bane, this hulking brute, was killed without a fight; no coming up through the rubble for one last shot of breaking Batman's spirit, or anything. If there was more time to focus on Talia being the main antagonist (as they did when Scarecrow was out of the picture and Ra's took over in "Begins") I wouldn't have as much as a problem with Bane's death, but 5 minutes after (who we think is) the main bad guys death, the other bad guy dies too?? Didn't like it. I still absolutely loved the movie though, but as much as I'd like to give it a 10/10, I have to give it a 9
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